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Title: JOM Bargain coilovers? any good
Post by: dubdom on 16 January 2010, 17:35
Hi,

I bought my tdi a while ago now and decided to lower it 40mm on springs with original shocks, it now needs a couple of new shocks on the back and im tempted to just go for some coilies as i want it lower. But the hottuning ones i have on mk1 just make it a back braking ride, that is pretty much as low as they go. But if i get something similar to these and dont have it all the way down, are they at all comfortable?

Also any idea whether the spax 40mm springs for my golf would fit onto a mk4 6n polo. Im assuming not but girlfriend would be happy if they do.

Cheers,

Dom
Title: Re: JOM Bargain coilovers? any good
Post by: zdebx on 16 January 2010, 17:40
JOM and Jamex coilies cost pretty much the same, with about £30-50 difference, Jamex costing a bit more. I would spend a little more and get Jamex, knowing that it's a well-known, reliable manufacturer, plus good value for money.

In regards of comfort, I think it's the same with all coilies. They're not ment to be comfortable lol
Title: Re: JOM Bargain coilovers? any good
Post by: Adam on 16 January 2010, 17:43
Buy cheap and you get what you pay for.
Title: Re: JOM Bargain coilovers? any good
Post by: dubdom on 16 January 2010, 17:52
i know theyre not comfortable but my mk1 is a bit ridiculous, good fun though, ill take a look at jamex ones
Title: Re: JOM Bargain coilovers? any good
Post by: Wayne on 16 January 2010, 19:32
Buy cheap and you get what you pay for.

+1 I would never use cheap ones again.
Title: Re: JOM Bargain coilovers? any good
Post by: dubdom on 16 January 2010, 20:13
still consider JAMEX cheap?

what actually changes quality wise when you up the moneys?
Title: Re: JOM Bargain coilovers? any good
Post by: Wayne on 16 January 2010, 20:21
still consider JAMEX cheap?

what actually changes quality wise when you up the moneys?

The Jamex ones are ok.
Title: Re: JOM Bargain coilovers? any good
Post by: zdebx on 16 January 2010, 21:09
still consider JAMEX cheap?

what actually changes quality wise when you up the moneys?

Jamex is cheap compared to Eibach and Koni (which are expensive brands), but as I said, it's good value for money. It's not crap, but it's not overpriced either. So perfect choice for someone without a big budget.
Title: Re: JOM Bargain coilovers? any good
Post by: Jimp on 16 January 2010, 21:15
Good value for money. I know people running them on mk2-4s without any trouble.
Title: Re: JOM Bargain coilovers? any good
Post by: dubdom on 16 January 2010, 21:18
sweeeet ill be getting some of them off ebay then, 200 hole pounds
Title: Re: JOM Bargain coilovers? any good
Post by: hyland770 on 17 January 2010, 14:35
i bought my jamex coilies off ebay for £175, havent had any problems yet either, just make sure you maintain them, i spray liberal amounts of wd40 on mine every couple of weeks!  Rides not too bad either...
Title: Re: JOM Bargain coilovers? any good
Post by: kells on 17 January 2010, 15:39
i bought my jamex coilies off ebay for £175, havent had any problems yet either, just make sure you maintain them, i spray liberal amounts of wd40 on mine every couple of weeks!  Rides not too bad either...


good price, i paid alot more for my jamex ones although that was over 2 year ago

wd40 isnt right for this job, you need spray waxoil or copper grease / or any grease all over the threads
Title: Re: JOM Bargain coilovers? any good
Post by: dubdom on 17 January 2010, 17:30
i bought some hottuning ones for a jetta i had and put lots of copper grease on the threads. I figured that putting thick lube on em would be worse than leaving em bare as i thought it would attract crap, so i skiiing socks over em aswell. Any one see any problems with this?
Title: Re: JOM Bargain coilovers? any good
Post by: kniterider on 17 January 2010, 18:02
have had the cheap jamex ones and there identical to the likes of the hot tuning ones etc... worth the money to wind your car down but there not the most comfy... i used them on vr6's , the lower you went the crapper the damping, it you settled with a decent ride height they were ok but if you went too low (for looks) the ride was terrible... the locking system on the spring platform is ok though, i had avo coil overs on my old vr6 show car and they were a tw@t .. they always used to seize up due to a grub screw which locked the platform off rather than an additional locking ring on the cheaper ones... damping was adjustable on the avos and did imporve the ride a bit...if your going to go coilies its never going to be the smoothest ride!!

 :smiley:
Title: Re: JOM Bargain coilovers? any good
Post by: Wayne on 17 January 2010, 18:40
Waxoil is better to spray on the threads.
Title: Re: JOM Bargain coilovers? any good
Post by: hyland770 on 17 January 2010, 20:25
Waxoil is better to spray on the threads.

i got some grease on the threads i tihnk the wd40 is more just for piece of mind and too cover the springs to keep them nice.
Title: Re: JOM Bargain coilovers? any good
Post by: Dan GTI on 17 January 2010, 22:36
I got some FK AK coilies off ebay brand new for £200. Not bad at all...
Title: Re: JOM Bargain coilovers? any good
Post by: GTIDUBBER on 18 January 2010, 23:01
got a set of jamex coilovers on my mk3 the ride is sweet
Title: Re: JOM Bargain coilovers? any good
Post by: deanpompey on 18 January 2010, 23:30
ALL cheap coilies are basically the same thing with different colour patterns and/or spring rates.

The exception to that rule is FK AK's. They are the only decent cheap coilies IMO.

As for what to spray on em / grease em up with, i find castrol chain spray wax is the best stuff. Has to be the wax though, not the chain lube. also wrapping in duct tape or similar after applying keeps em fresh. my mates old golf used same as above, and after 3 years when he pulled tape off, everything was still greased nicely and nothing seized at all.






Title: Re: JOM Bargain coilovers? any good
Post by: kells on 18 January 2010, 23:34
what you basing your findings on deanpompey?

you trien them all out have you??


FK = f**king Krap , pissed off with that brand but thats another story  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: JOM Bargain coilovers? any good
Post by: deanpompey on 18 January 2010, 23:47
well the fact that JOM/Hottuning/TA technix/Jamex etc are all made in the same factory kinda gives it away a little....

Im basing my opinions on cars i have owned and/or driven with various kits on.

have had Hottuning and TA coilies, identical, and both crap. also had AVO's which were awesome! but then for £750 a set you expect decent quality!

As for Jamex, have had their shocks and springs,and they were crap, and like i said they are made in same factory as hottuning etc and just badged differently.

Also know a lot of people with different brands of coilies (and have been in/driven their cars) from hottuning, to FK AK's,up to weitecs and again to KW V2's.

never heard a good report for the budgets, from anyone that actually knows what they are talking about at least.

FK aint awesome, not by any means, but they are a damn sight more stable under hard cornering than the jamex/hottuning etc counterparts.

As has been said already in this thread, you get what you pay for.

If all you want is looks, fine, buy the cheap an nasty's. but if you want decent coilies, and are going to go to the hassle of having them set up PROPERLY, then buy Weitec's at the very least.
Title: Re: JOM Bargain coilovers? any good
Post by: kells on 19 January 2010, 09:39
matey

iv been driving since 1994/5

had all sorts of kits onmy cars,mostly koni 

i ran a koni / jamex set up for years on the swift GTI and it was awesome

had the jamex coilovers on the mk 3 for coming up to 3 years, and i do alot of driving,they have been superb,i really dont think you know what your on about. they aint the best on the market, but by no means crap!

theirs not that much in it compaired to other kits iv used, you probably never had your car set up correct after fitment, i agree their is some sh!t kits out their but the jamex has been very good.

Also, and im not saying their not, but how do you know they are made all in the same factory, i mean i saw some recent hottuning items, they look very different to my jamex.... just saying, i dont know you but it just seems your basing your decisions on what you have read on here.

not trying to get at you, im just voicing my opinions

also worth noting,why spend 700 quid + on shocks when the car is not worth much more haha.fair enough on a show car which has had thousands spent on it,dont see the point otherwise, not when items like the jamex do the job very well indeed

im happy with them


Title: Re: JOM Bargain coilovers? any good
Post by: flash-derby on 19 January 2010, 09:43
good point on price, my car only cost just over £500, and i would'nt spent over that on coilies....... :smiley:
Title: Re: JOM Bargain coilovers? any good
Post by: deanpompey on 19 January 2010, 19:25
I always take my car to be set up correctly when i fit new coilies. and i dont just mean a tracking session!

if you've had koni set ups, i really dont see how you can say the jamex are anywhere near as good. jamex are good for one thing, going low. handling wise a koni/eibach setup will be a million miles better than jamex.

my opinions are not based on what i have read, they are based on what i have driven. i have never driven a car with cheap coilies and thought they were as good as my avo's or koni set ups.

And after you have driven a car with KW V2's on, cheap coilies just dont come close.

look at these coilies, and tell me they aren't identical barr colour choices (top two even share same colours):

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JAMEX-Coilover-Suspension-Lowering-Kit-VW-Golf-Mk3-GTI_W0QQitemZ230426478287QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item35a67d06cf

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/COILOVER-VW-SCIROCCO-MK1-MK2-ADJUSTABLE-SUSPENSION_W0QQitemZ190362901565QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item2c52835c3d#ht_2946wt_1165

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/COIL-OVER-COILOVER-VW-GOLF-MK4-GTI-ADJUST-SUSPENSION_W0QQitemZ400097059202QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item5d27a4a182#ht_3275wt_1165

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JOM-COILOVER-SUSPENSION-KIT-VW-GOLF-3-GTI-8V-16V-VR6_W0QQitemZ280450048562QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item414c202232#ht_592wt_116

You can think what you like about what i know, but IMO anyone that thinks Jamex are of same kind of quality as AVO, really doesnt have a clue.

The cost issue i do agree with in some respects, fair enough not wanting to put £700 coils on a £400 car. BUT, if your actually wanting top end performance from your coilies, and not just looks, im afraid you have to pay the good money.
Title: Re: JOM Bargain coilovers? any good
Post by: kells on 19 January 2010, 19:39
where did i say their were as good as avo????

i said for the money they are great

as for looks, yeah they look similar but thats still not enough proof to say their are made in the same factory!!!!

my mates hottuning ones look different to my jamex.. but what do i know  :rolleyes:

yeah i still have a koni set up on the other car, its great, but as i say, for the money the jamex coilovers are great

we are not saying jamex is as good as koni or Gaz or spax but they are very good for the money as i keep saying which you are failing to grasp and seen as we aint on the track with the car its been perfect for day to day use, not as comfy ride as the konis but i can live with that.

they cant be that bad quality either,  after almost 3 years of abuse haha, i do quite alot of miles and i must say for a mk 3 it sticks to the road

im sure a set up costing 4 times as much will be better, but can you justify it for the daily hack, like really can you?? all goes down to how long you plan to own the car etc really i guess. but these jamex are still going strong, i keep them well greased and all is well.

i was in two minds when i got the jamex coilovers but im very suprised by them..turned out better than i expected..  a lesson to be learned by all here....