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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: JellyCat on 15 January 2010, 21:58

Title: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: JellyCat on 15 January 2010, 21:58

Thought the following poll would be fun, there's some interesting comments about following the Golf R pics in the Warrington VW dealer.
Ok there wheels are blocked up but it's a bit of fun but may give an interesting result!

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: Snoopy on 15 January 2010, 22:39

Well like the mk5 if im truthful i would want a combination of the two. A GTI-R would be nice :evil:

Exterior,
I like the R side better,
I like the GTD rear,
I like the R's LED rear lights best,
I prefer the GTI grill,
I like the R front bumper design better,
I like the R's Day time running lights better,
I like the GTI fogs.
I like the R's 19" wheels more.
I would prefer the R's brakes.

I want a GTI badge as people actually know what it is!

Interior,
I like the GTI cloth interior design but it would be much better in half leather!

I just could not pick one over the other in standard spec on looks alone.

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: sandman99 on 15 January 2010, 23:03

with this being a golf gti forum i dont think there will be any surprises with the result :shocked:

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: mac7 on 15 January 2010, 23:37

The GTI is undoubtedly the better looking car :cool: but I'll still buy the R.

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: Exonian on 16 January 2010, 05:44

I'm going to sit on the fence.
I like aspects of both, and the GTD too whilst we're at it.......  :nerd:

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: carl1 on 16 January 2010, 07:49

im leaning towards gti, but those pics are not best of the R at all. I will have a better view in the flesh when i testdriveone today

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: Booski on 16 January 2010, 08:47

 :laugh:

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: Saint Steve on 16 January 2010, 08:54

R for me. looks understated  :smiley:

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: ub7rm on 16 January 2010, 09:12

As someone else said I prefer the GTI front but the R rear.  Wouldn't turn one down though  :drool:

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: p3eps on 16 January 2010, 11:33

As above - its a GTI forum and although there are a few prospective Golf R owners, the majority are GTI - so I would guess the results will be about 90% v 10% by the time everyone has voted!!

I like both cars...
I like the R from the side as it has skirts instead of black plastic strips.
I like the R rear lights - but I prefer the GTI split exhausts.
I like the R front better - although the grill is a little understated.
I hate Monza's... so I prefer the R wheels.
Interior wise - I don't think there is any difference apart from a couple of badges here and there.
 

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: keelaw on 16 January 2010, 11:44

Quote from: p3eps on 16 January 2010, 11:33

As above - its a GTI forum....

But where else can they go?   :wink:

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: gizzywizzy on 16 January 2010, 12:13

The cloth interior on the R is sh1t,  I like the recaros but not at the price!! so it would have to be leather and VW leather is pretty poor!

I prefer the back split exhausts on the GTI but like the leds on the R, could mod them on to my GTI at some point then I'd be a very happy bunny

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: keelaw on 16 January 2010, 12:17

Only bit of the R I'd like to have is the LEDs at the front.

Otherwise GTI all the way!  :)

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: Exonian on 16 January 2010, 12:27

Okay whilst we're pulling them to pieces, I like the Rs bumper, rear lights and blue needles plus the darker door inserts. And the proper side skirts whilst I'm here.
I like the GTIs wheels and errrr......that's about it.
I like the GTDs discreet exhaust and honeycomb grille (probably on my own there) and subtle seat pattern.

Oh, and I'd like that lot with and R36 engine please Mr Chairman of VW  :laugh:

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: Ess_Three on 16 January 2010, 12:38

GTI looks, with R brakes, running gear and engine...
GTI 18" wheels - only fractionally better then the R wheels.

Recaros, in half leather with GTI cloth centres.

Winner.
Where do I sign?

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: Booski on 16 January 2010, 12:54

Quote from: gizzywizzy on 16 January 2010, 12:13

The cloth interior on the R is sh1t,  I like the recaros but not at the price!! so it would have to be leather and VW leather is pretty poor!

I prefer the back split exhausts on the GTI but like the leds on the R, could mod them on to my GTI at some point then I'd be a very happy bunny

"calm down dear" it's just a question  :lipsrsealed:

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: AlanD on 16 January 2010, 12:55

How can you say GTI ? The new R looks mean !

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Post by: carl1 on 16 January 2010, 23:49

After seeing one in the flesh today a Rising blue R, just.

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Post by: RickyJCW on 17 January 2010, 00:12

A lot different than the ones we have seen in pictures??.. after seeing it would you go for blue, or black?

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: Neil gti on 17 January 2010, 08:48

I prefer the look of the Gti over the R   :tongue:


(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/NeilGti/2009_golf_gti_paris_10-1.jpg)
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/NeilGti/NewGolfR.jpg)

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: gizzywizzy on 17 January 2010, 09:46

Quote from: Booski on 16 January 2010, 12:54

Quote from: gizzywizzy on 16 January 2010, 12:13

The cloth interior on the R is sh1t,  I like the recaros but not at the price!! so it would have to be leather and VW leather is pretty poor!

I prefer the back split exhausts on the GTI but like the leds on the R, could mod them on to my GTI at some point then I'd be a very happy bunny

"calm down dear" it's just a question  :lipsrsealed:

I don't get it! am I not allowed to give an opinion? It was hardly a hysterical rant just what I like and don't about the R.  Which is what was asked.  So p1ss off and go burn some testosterone.

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: R32UK on 17 January 2010, 10:07

front of the gti
back and interior of the R


 :cool:

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: p3eps on 17 January 2010, 10:18

Quote from: Neil gti on 17 January 2010, 08:48

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/NeilGti/2009_golf_gti_paris_10-1.jpg)
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/NeilGti/NewGolfR.jpg)

When I see the pair of them side by side like this, I think the R front it much better.  I like the LEDs, and the way they have a bit of blue between the black bits.  The GTI one just looks too plain.  I do like the GTI grill, but then I think the R one looks good too.  I understand what people say about it looking like a GT grill - but hey ho!

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: AlanD on 18 January 2010, 09:57

I didn't realise you could get the GTI in rising blue? If so why has no one get it, its an awesome colour !

I am of course assuming that is RB that the GTI is in.

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: FamilyDub on 18 January 2010, 10:04

GTI

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: SilverChariot on 18 January 2010, 10:07

Quote from: AlanD on 18 January 2010, 09:57

I didn't realise you could get the GTI in rising blue? If so why has no one get it, its an awesome colour !

Rising Blue Metallic is not available on the GTI in the UK, only Germany. I think it looks wrong anyway - blue bodywork and red detailing not right IMHO.

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: AlanD on 18 January 2010, 10:08

Being a massive Palace fan im quite partial to a bit of red and blue, I think it looks nice :cool:

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: VWKev on 18 January 2010, 13:34

Unfortunately the R is fugly. Only R I think looks nice is p3eps in his sig.

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: Booski on 18 January 2010, 14:26

Quote from: gizzywizzy on 17 January 2010, 09:46

Quote from: Booski on 16 January 2010, 12:54

Quote from: gizzywizzy on 16 January 2010, 12:13

The cloth interior on the R is sh1t,  I like the recaros but not at the price!! so it would have to be leather and VW leather is pretty poor!

I prefer the back split exhausts on the GTI but like the leds on the R, could mod them on to my GTI at some point then I'd be a very happy bunny

"calm down dear" it's just a question  :lipsrsealed:

I don't get it! am I not allowed to give an opinion? It was hardly a hysterical rant just what I like and don't about the R.  Which is what was asked.  So p1ss off and go burn some testosterone.

no you're correct you don't rant  lol
another of your recent posts:

Quote from: gizzywizzy on 15 January 2010, 12:23

Who's p1ssed off? Not me I love my GTI it's everything and more than I wanted in a car and yes it is better looking than the overpriced and overrated 'R'.

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: herbie911 on 18 January 2010, 15:03

Both cars are not perfect in the looks department.  :rolleyes:
A black Golf with Golf R front bumpers (I like LEDS light) Golf GTi grille and split exhaust, bbs alloys will look spot-on for me!! :drool:

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: p3eps on 18 January 2010, 15:06

Quote from: VWKev on 18 January 2010, 13:34

Unfortunately the R is fugly. Only R I think looks nice is p3eps in his sig.

Cheers dude  :cool:

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: ErikGTI on 18 January 2010, 19:15

Quote from: gizzywizzy on 16 January 2010, 12:13

The cloth interior on the R is sh1t,  I like the recaros but not at the price!! so it would have to be leather and VW leather is pretty poor!

I prefer the back split exhausts on the GTI but like the leds on the R, could mod them on to my GTI at some point then I'd be a very happy bunny

Can you be more specific about WHY you think the leather quality is poor I have ordered Vienna Black Leather on the GTI (after factory) so I can still make up my mind...my first impression was good quality, I had a sample ...and sat in the Sirocco with leather... :cool:

I am a happy bunny since I will soon have the split exhausts as well as the Led Tail lights on my GTI... :evil:

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: gizzywizzy on 18 January 2010, 20:35

Best mate has a mk5 with leather, the car is only 3years but the leather has gone all saggy and badly wrinkled it also has a tear in the drivers seat just from use.

My Peugeot 307 had leather seats and after 3 years it was as good as new.

ETTO tho!

Gizzy

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Post by: mac7 on 18 January 2010, 22:47

Apart from the fact there's not a great deal of actual leather there, the leather that is used isn't very high quality. Like gizzy's friend, I've found it ages quickly. The stuff in my old Touareg was good, but not what they use in the Passats and Golfs.

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: JJH on 18 January 2010, 23:34

Quote from: mac7 on 18 January 2010, 22:47

Apart from the fact there's not a great deal of actual leather there, the leather that is used isn't very high quality. Like gizzy's friend, I've found it ages quickly. The stuff in my old Touareg was good, but not what they use in the Passats and Golfs.

Agree with the quality of the Touareg leather quality, my old man has a V10TDI (for sale) and even after 4 years looks great, much better than the new Q7. Leather suppliers use plenty of tricks to hide imperfections. The leather in a Golf is skived to a very thin thickness. One of the reasons I didnt specify leather is that i know how much of a rip off it is; the additional cost of leather over cloth is approx. £300 per car at most.

As to which looks better, at the moment, the R, but thats only because I havent seen one in the flesh yet....
As the old saying goes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: devito on 18 January 2010, 23:52

eric, the scirocco seats r much better so dont use that to decide. i down graded from leather to cloth once i realised that the golf seats in leather r s-it.

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: ErikGTI on 20 January 2010, 13:15

I am definitely gonna contact the dealer to get him to order better leather.....it would be a nightmare to find my leather to go bad after 2 years or so...thanks guys  :wink:

Edit: I have mailed him (without revealing my source  :wink:) and said that if the leather is the same as on the MK V I will make it a "no go" and want (to pay extra) better quality.

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: JJH on 20 January 2010, 14:29

Eric, be careful you dont go wasting money. The appearance of the leather seats is not only influenced by the quality of the leather but the pattern engineering that goes into making the covers. You can have the worlds finest leather but if the pattern is just alittle out the seat will still look crap.  The main area of concern on these seats is the thigh bolsters closest to the doors. The reason it creases so badly on occasion is a lack of tension in the pattern, the resistance to change in that area relies on the foam, other areas of the seat have much more restricted movement due to the retention cords, tapes and clips attaching the cover to the seat frame. The reason cloth covers appear better is that the cloth manufacturers are able to control the stretch charactisitcs in a way that cannot be acheived with leather. You could quite easily find that whoever you use, the risk of creasing etc to the blosters remains. Good luck,,

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: ErikGTI on 20 January 2010, 15:36

There is also another issue I overlooked but could be in my advantage.. :smug:

I have 2 friends who ordered aftermarket leather on there new Saab....comparing that with the "original" leather upholstery they both discovered that their upholstery in both cases was done at a rather visual  :lipsrsealed: higher standard ...

Very amazing since I always thought the opposite (no substitute for leather out of the factory :undecided:)...but that seems not always true..

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: keelaw on 20 January 2010, 21:17

Quote from: Erik van Voorst on 20 January 2010, 13:15

I am definitely gonna contact the dealer to get him to order better leather.....it would be a nightmare to find my leather to go bad after 2 years or so...thanks guys  :wink:

erm.... they have different standards of leather you can spec?  somehow i find that v hard to believe!

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: devito on 21 January 2010, 00:47

after market leather can be much better than factory fit for much the same price, ask any pro footballer.

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Post by: ErikGTI on 21 January 2010, 17:20

Quote from: keelaw on 20 January 2010, 21:17

Quote from: Erik van Voorst on 20 January 2010, 13:15

I am definitely gonna contact the dealer to get him to order better leather.....it would be a nightmare to find my leather to go bad after 2 years or so...thanks guys  :wink:

erm.... they have different standards of leather you can spec?  somehow i find that v hard to believe!

You are not accusing me are you.... :huh:  :wink:

I had a little booklet in front of me at the dealer to choose from.(say 10 types/colour of leather) ..mind you the Vienna was in it as well so I took that one...more being afraid of overlooking mismatching colour combinations when finished in the interior... :wink:
I even could spec the stitches...red, black or silver...again I choose black to stay safe...

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: Booski on 21 January 2010, 17:41

Quote from: Erik van Voorst on 21 January 2010, 17:20

I had a little booklet in front of me at the dealer to choose from.(say 10 types/colour of leather) ..mind you the Vienna was in it as well so I took that one...more being afraid of overlooking mismatching colour combinations when finished in the interior... :wink:
I even could spec the stitches...red, black or silver...again I choose black to stay safe...

what are the range of prices for bespoke leather?

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Post by: ErikGTI on 21 January 2010, 18:05

Obviously for now I know only the aftermarket Vienna...I pay 1475 euro for that leather that is for 100% (= no leather look anymore) and another I think 500 euro for heated seats (winterpackage) but I do loose the "standard" electrical side adjustment on the chairs.....

I probably know some other prices next week when the dealer contacts me...

BTW The aftermarket upholstery will be done via the VW Importer PON....and I have seen amazing results so far on Audi.... :cool:

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: mr magoo on 21 January 2010, 22:00

I think the MkVI (and MkV) GTis look f-a-b tbh.

It'd be better if the R had something to distinguish it like the red 'lipstick' the GTi has.

Perhaps blue lipstick?  :kiss:

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: Snoopy on 21 January 2010, 22:45

Quote from: mr magoo on 21 January 2010, 22:00

I think the MkVI (and MkV) GTis look f-a-b tbh.

It'd be better if the R had something to distinguish it like the red 'lipstick' the GTi has.

Perhaps blue lipstick?  :kiss:

Odd but i was thinking the same, since they used crome on the GTD.

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Post by: p3eps on 22 January 2010, 07:04

Quote from: Booski on 21 January 2010, 17:41

what are the range of prices for bespoke leather?

There are a few guys on the Scirocco forum have had their cloth seats re-covered with leather for a little over £1000.  They can then choose colour and stitching colour, and say the quality is much better than the original VW.  The only problem is that its not authentic - but who really cares?!

Title: Re: Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.
Post by: Hawk29 on 22 January 2010, 07:18

I think that the leather interior is an absolute rip-off at £1800, I don't think that it feels or looks special at all and I certainly wouldn't factory order it.

One other thing that I have noticed in the three weeks of ownership is that the heated seats seem to take ages to warm up, I think it's partly due to the cold side bolsters against your legs, I have never noticed this on any other heated seats I've had in the past.