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Title: Non fault accidents increasing insurance?
Post by: twistedblack69 on 13 January 2010, 16:18
OK so I got rear ended in October, and figured it'd raise my insurance £50-100 maybe...just done a couple quotes on GoCompare and Confused, without this claim, they're asking £1000 (I'm 21 with a mk2 8v GTI with 1yr NCB...kinda what I was expecting). With the non fault claim, £1600!! WTF!! This is f**kin' ridiculous, phoned them up (it was Admiral) and he went through my details, and I said yea they're all correct, and he said he doesn't know why it's gone up so much but there's nothing he can do

EDIT: OK, so when I did the policy I wanted it to start 18th Feb which was too far in advance, and on Confused, it came up "we will do this policy to start at 12/02/2010 and let you know when it can be applied to the 18/02/2010", and seeing as my birthday is the 16th of Feb, I turn 21....as of the 12, I would still be 20, so I did another quote where my bday was a few days earlier, so I would be 21 on the 12, it knocked £600 off!! This is crazy...I hate insurance
Title: Re: Non fault accidents increasing insurance?
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 13 January 2010, 23:29
I'm gutted because my insurance ran over my birthday but the insurance was due 3 months before, so I couldn't wait it out haha! Paying £650 right now with Adrian Flux so I'm hoping renewal will be much cheaper.
Title: Re: Non fault accidents increasing insurance?
Post by: DannyOOOOO on 14 January 2010, 15:10
was guna say that it is very strange for a non fault accident to change insurance and that there must of been something else behind it, but looks like you found it with age thing.

any other querstions/problems, you know where to find us.  :smiley:

Danny O
Title: Re: Non fault accidents increasing insurance?
Post by: A7 UFO on 14 January 2010, 15:13
err you didn't claim on your insurance.  You claimed on the other guys insurance (ie the one who went up the back of you) didn't you?  A non fault claim is if someone hit you but they weren't insured itsn't it?
Title: Re: Non fault accidents increasing insurance?
Post by: DannyOOOOO on 14 January 2010, 15:18
a non-fault claim is when there is an accident or claim, but you have someone elses insurance to go through.

if there is an accident or claim but there isn't a third party to go through,(i.e someone hit you and drove off, theft or vandalism claim) unfortunatley it will go down as a fault claim  :sad: as it is your insurance company that is paying for it.

Unfair i know but thats just how insurance works.

Danny O

HIC
Title: Re: Non fault accidents increasing insurance?
Post by: A7 UFO on 14 January 2010, 15:21
so you get financially penalised for someone else's mistake?  I didn't know that. 

Surely it would make sense to start up small claims court proceedings (£50) and get the extra cost back from the offending driver. 
Title: Re: Non fault accidents increasing insurance?
Post by: DannyOOOOO on 14 January 2010, 15:30
yes defintley if you can find the person responsible, but 9/10 someone has spanked you in a car park drove off, no witnesses and the 'CCTV' ain't working. In this instance if you want to make the claim as its your insurance paying out for damages its a fault claim.

So yes if you can find the person responsible, take them to court or get the police involved because it will save you in the long run.

If not you should weigh up if its worth making a claim or repairing the vehice out of your own pocket. coz damges might only be £200 but it might put your insurance up by more next year so you would of been better of just paying it yourself.

Bit harsh on  us but you can see where your underwriter is coming from if they've stumped up money to repair your car

Danny O

HIC
Title: Re: Non fault accidents increasing insurance?
Post by: twistedblack69 on 19 January 2010, 17:55
A7, it seems to me that you're getting confused. If someone hits you, and you get their details, and you make a claim, their insurance company pays for it, therefore it's a non fault, and it doesn't affect your premiums (unless you're under 21, apparently lol). What Danny is saying is that if someone does something to your car, but you don't get details (hit and run, criminal damage) then if you make a claim, you're insurance will pay for it, and it will affect your premiums.
Title: Re: Non fault accidents increasing insurance?
Post by: DannyOOOOO on 20 January 2010, 10:18
yes mate thats spot on you hit the nail on the head there

unfortunate i know but its the way it works   :sad:
Title: Re: Non fault accidents increasing insurance?
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 20 January 2010, 10:24
so did you claim of your insurance or his?

i had the same once after a non fault claim had been settled. it turned out my insurers hadn't been told it had been settled and it was still on the computer as pending. It was sorted over the phone and the renewal was pretty much the same as the year before.
Title: Re: Non fault accidents increasing insurance?
Post by: A7 UFO on 20 January 2010, 10:52
A7, it seems to me that you're getting confused. If someone hits you, and you get their details, and you make a claim, their insurance company pays for it, therefore it's a non fault, and it doesn't affect your premiums (unless you're under 21, apparently lol). What Danny is saying is that if someone does something to your car, but you don't get details (hit and run, criminal damage) then if you make a claim, you're insurance will pay for it, and it will affect your premiums.

err you didn't claim on your insurance.  You claimed on the other guys insurance (ie the one who went up the back of you) didn't you?  A non fault claim is if someone hit you but they weren't insured itsn't it?

that's what I said.  That if you make a claim through the offending persons insurance it shouldn't effect your premium.
Title: Re: Non fault accidents increasing insurance?
Post by: twistedblack69 on 20 January 2010, 14:37
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A non fault claim is if someone hit you but they weren't insured itsn't it?

That's the opposite of what I said. Lol I don't know if you're getting confused with what I said, or I'm getting confused with what you said.
Title: Re: Non fault accidents increasing insurance?
Post by: A7 UFO on 20 January 2010, 14:46
isn't a non fault claim a claim you make on your own insurance but where the fault wasn't yours?  ie malicous damage, being hit by an uninsured driver, hit and run etc?
Title: Re: Non fault accidents increasing insurance?
Post by: DannyOOOOO on 20 January 2010, 17:27
i'll try and clear this up for you  :grin:

non-fault - you go through someone elses insurance.
fault - you go through your insurance - even if its theft, vandalism, hit + run-no matter what if it goes through yours its fault.
Title: Re: Non fault accidents increasing insurance?
Post by: A7 UFO on 20 January 2010, 20:31
thank you  :smiley:
Title: Re: Non fault accidents increasing insurance?
Post by: Ben_1uk on 30 January 2010, 18:11
Your policy can still be effected with a non-fault accident if the value of the claim is not settled in full as I have found out the incredibly long and frustrating way! Make sure the party at fault coughs up every penny!
Title: Re: Non fault accidents increasing insurance?
Post by: tom-gardiner on 05 March 2010, 22:45
my accident wasnt my fault, all parties claimed off the muppet that hit me insurance and mine didnt go up atall. sorry to hear urs has mate!!