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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: turboben on 09 January 2010, 13:30
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i know there are many threads about this so i dont want to bore people but what do you think of this is it a good deal
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AUDI-A3-1-8T-20V-1996-2003-K04-NEW-TURBO-TURBOCHARGER_W0QQitemZ160378826339QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item255752ae63
i dont really have any experience with kk turbos as onlt ever used garrett on the fords i have owned and also do any gt turbosor garrett turbos go on the mk4 as a direct replacement as they are a bit stronger than the kk's
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Were you ever on PF mate? Sure I recognise your user name...
Anyways that looks like a cheap copy to me as it doesn't have KKK in the triangle on the comp housing. Aldo K04-015 is not a direct fit to the Golf, it will need new bits fabricating...
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lots of people will tell you its not genuine and not last very long and i have to agree
genuine is the way
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I used to have Garretts fail on me all the time when I had my Escort lol
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Stay clear of it mate, buy a genuine K03s or K04-001 turbo. As said the K04-015 is not a direct bolt on unit as you'll need a different downpipe fabricated. The K03s and K04-001 are straight bolt on units
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i already have the ko3s and have edited my above post as i put the wrong link in :embarassed:
yes i was on pf for quite a few years till it got taken over and updated and i could never log in properly and my account just never worked properly and they toolk away my gold membership which i paid for :angry: apart from that it was a good helpfull site
if garretts are looked after well they do last, problem with old fords is you need a inline filter on the oil feed as the old engines have loads of bits of metal and copper floating around in the oil which just chews the turbos up, i had a t34 on a frst then fitted it to a erst running 22 psi in the frst and 18 in the erst and it lasted me about 4 years with no probs just had to clean the filters out every 4 months
the main reason is i want a stronger turbo as i would like the car to flutter as i just hate the pssht noise of the forge diverter valve it sound a mix between a bus and a chav :smiley:
i know it will cause more lag but i just love the sound
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the flutter sound you mention is normally down to the turbo's wastegate being knackered. The K03s is a strong turbo and can boost easily to 22psi and have no problems with Lag. If you step up to the K04 then you will still get the normal noise from the re-circ valve but be able to get more power with the right upgrades but there will be abit of lag.
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can the recirculating dump valve be plugged in any way
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Not a good idea as this will effect the running of the car, as the air that is re-circulated has already been measured/metered and the ECU will then put the right amount of fuel in to match. If you remove or blank to re-circ valve then the air that has been measured wont be going back through the system and thus the ecu will be overfuelling the engine
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surely the maf sensor would be reading how much air is being sucked in threw the filter and then adjust the fuelling before it even goes past the recirulating valve
surely it can be done as i have heard quite a few tt's that flutter and they are basically the same engine
is there no other recirculing valve on the market that actually does not vent to atmosphere, do the standard ones make a sound ??
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you'll never have the sound of the Escort again mate, I had EFI on mine with just a filter on the side of the turbo and no DV, it used to scare people walking on the street lol
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pure atmospheric valves have issues with the golf, keep throwing out error codes, can get a forge r-splitter valve, which is 50/50 recirc and atmosperic, but apparently it hits performance. With the forge 007p valve which is just recirc, its pretty good, not alot of noise of noise but u do hear it going vrrrrr psssssss, not very loudly, but mainly in 2nd gear from my experience.
Pretty sure turbo flatter is not a good thing to aim or, thought it also causes more turbo wear, also I thought the DV has an effect of turbo flatter. One friends DV in the golf was fualty, that flattered, then another friend in his seat leon k1 mk2, changed the DV to a atmospheric one, which is just one with holes, that caused flatter. But when he switched back to stock the flatter stopped, wonder if the lower spec springs on the 007p will do the same by not holding pressure? Just an idea.
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i already have the forge 007 with stronger springs still sounds like a golf
wazzer i know what you mean thats a real turbo sound a filter straight after the turbo no maf sensor etc just a high pitch flutter i understand i willnever get that but would like to get as close to that as possible
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yeah I do miss my Escort but it turned into a money pit...
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yeah I do miss my Escort but it turned into a money pit...
yep they sure are and you need to keep every weekend spare to work on them, but when they are running right they are so much fun
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mmmm, i dont get a flutter, i get a loud pshhh sound. got a 007p and a pipercross cone filter. Can hear it in all gears, even with music turned up.....
maybe you just wont get that flutter sound you want.... anyway it sooooo doesnt sound as good as pshhh :laugh:
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mmmm, i dont get a flutter, i get a loud pshhh sound. got a 007p and a pipercross cone filter. Can hear it in all gears, even with music turned up.....
maybe you just wont get that flutter sound you want.... anyway it sooooo doesnt sound as good as pshhh :laugh:
:rolleyes:
this must be your first turbo car then, i used to like dump valves when i was 12 then as i grew up i grew out of them and realised how chavy they are :grin:
i know where your coming from tho i think i will just have to put up with it :sad:
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mmmm, i dont get a flutter, i get a loud pshhh sound. got a 007p and a pipercross cone filter. Can hear it in all gears, even with music turned up.....
maybe you just wont get that flutter sound you want.... anyway it sooooo doesnt sound as good as pshhh :laugh:
:rolleyes:
this must be your first turbo car then, i used to like dump valves when i was 12 then as i grew up i grew out of them and realised how chavy they are :grin:
i know where your coming from tho i think i will just have to put up with it :sad:
haha its still my first car lol.
im not all about the pshhh, its just something i cant stop from happening lol. just have to put up with it, yep.
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Had a Series 2 RS Turbo, 2x Calibra turbo's, 1 running 300bhp, a golf turbo and then my current golf turbo.
Now when i had my calibra i had a dump valve fitted but this used to chatter. This came down to the turbo wastegate bushes going and causing it to recirculate the air back up through the intake/air filter. Once i had the turbo fully reconn'd, it went away.
I know the chatter you speak of and you see it alot on jap cars. I think this is maybe down to the big power cars running external wastegates