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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: DonnieDarko on 31 December 2009, 17:54
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Well, I cancelled my June order for a gti (expected delivery feb!) and opted for a BMW 335d. I'm currently in the process of returning it due to persistent leather problems and poor mpg for a diesel (17mpg around town) averaging under 30 on the combined so I'd rather have petrol. Also no folding seats and small boot opening mean it's no good for lugging.
I have a budget of about £31k and will probably get two cars- a golf either R32 or mk6 gti and a diesel estate or 4x4.
What do people think - ESP those who have had an r32 before. Is it a lot more fun and planted on the road, or does the nicer exterior and interior of the mk6 make up for that?
Obviously going for the mk6 would seriously affect my budget for the other car which might have to be a crapper... Sadly now 31k would be unlikely to get me the car I ordered before for 29 :(
I really miss the feel of my impreza, but want an auto. I thought paddleshift would he great, but actually just flick to sport in the Beemer.
I've also considered an evo x but the wife won't let me :(
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R32 all day long :cool:
Im back in a MK5 at the moment and tbh i have forgotten the difference between having a MK6... its only the heating controls that seem to be different :laugh:
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Ah great news that would give me enough left over for something decent! Why are you back in a mk5 - gti or r32?
you seem to have been swapping more than me! Wrx, and then spent more time in the 118d courtesy car than in the 335d- I've discovered a fast car that sounds slow is no fun at all
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R32 all day long :cool:
Agree - Mk5 R32 is future classic. It's an itch that's gotta be scratched - no more V6 Golfs. The Mk6 GTI can wait.
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Ah great news that would give me enough left over for something decent! Why are you back in a mk5 - gti or r32?
you seem to have been swapping more than me! Wrx, and then spent more time in the 118d courtesy car than in the 335d- I've discovered a fast car that sounds slow is no fun at all
some turd in a tranny drove into the MK6. So now back in a MK5 Gti... drives just as well as the mk6 tbh.
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The mk6 does look nice though! Shame I can't justify an R
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R32.. then in 2 years you could probably almost straight swap it for a used mk6 GTI. When i was testing the mk6 (see my review in the sticky at the top) i kept leaning to the race instructor telling him how much better my R32 was :grin:
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Shame you cannot have the evo x, they where doing the FQ330SST for the same price as the FQ300SST, a big saving there.
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Try a DSG R32, you won't regret it :wink: :laugh:
Not quite as light and nimble as a GTi, but fantastic traction in all conditions and a great V6 soundtrack.
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So now back in a MK5 Gti... drives just as well as the mk6 tbh.
R32 all day long :cool:
Im back in a MK5 at the moment and tbh i have forgotten the difference between having a MK6... its only the heating controls that seem to be different :laugh:
:shocked:
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Ah great news that would give me enough left over for something decent! Why are you back in a mk5 - gti or r32?
you seem to have been swapping more than me! Wrx, and then spent more time in the 118d courtesy car than in the 335d- I've discovered a fast car that sounds slow is no fun at all
some turd in a tranny drove into the MK6. So now back in a MK5 Gti... drives just as well as the mk6 tbh.
It doesnt really.
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So now back in a MK5 Gti... drives just as well as the mk6 tbh.
R32 all day long :cool:
Im back in a MK5 at the moment and tbh i have forgotten the difference between having a MK6... its only the heating controls that seem to be different :laugh:
:shocked:
Why the shock? There really is minimal difference between the mk5 and mk6 to drive, the interior is very similar and only the face and arse are different on the outside.
If it wasn't for the fact that my last mk5 was an early 05 plate GTI which needed a fair few quid spending on it on wear and tear items I'd have happily stayed in my mk5. If I had a newer mk5 there would have been no way I'd have stumped up the increasingly ridiculous amount for the new car (as it was I saved nearly 3 grand by buying and ex-demo), and if I knew I would break even on my mk6 I'd happily sign on the dotted line for a late ED30 or Pirelli or R32 if it was priced sensibly.
The mk6 GTI is an improved car, but the mk5 was so good it's not that much inferior, especially when you consider it's nearly £30k now for a decent spec mk6 GTI . Fine if you're on a massive salary or your employer pays your car bills, mad money in all other respects
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Ah great news that would give me enough left over for something decent! Why are you back in a mk5 - gti or r32?
you seem to have been swapping more than me! Wrx, and then spent more time in the 118d courtesy car than in the 335d- I've discovered a fast car that sounds slow is no fun at all
some turd in a tranny drove into the MK6. So now back in a MK5 Gti... drives just as well as the mk6 tbh.
It doesnt really.
He is in a much stronger position to comment i think :wink:
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Exonian , he was being sarcastic lol :D
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So now back in a MK5 Gti... drives just as well as the mk6 tbh.
Contraversial in these 4 walls :lipsrsealed:
Sorry to hear about your news R32uk, hope shes back to full health soon :smiley:
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Ah great news that would give me enough left over for something decent! Why are you back in a mk5 - gti or r32?
you seem to have been swapping more than me! Wrx, and then spent more time in the 118d courtesy car than in the 335d- I've discovered a fast car that sounds slow is no fun at all
some turd in a tranny drove into the MK6. So now back in a MK5 Gti... drives just as well as the mk6 tbh.
It doesnt really.
He is in a much stronger position to comment i think :wink:
And that makes him right ? No. My comment was not an optinion, it's a fact.
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Ah great news that would give me enough left over for something decent! Why are you back in a mk5 - gti or r32?
you seem to have been swapping more than me! Wrx, and then spent more time in the 118d courtesy car than in the 335d- I've discovered a fast car that sounds slow is no fun at all
some turd in a tranny drove into the MK6. So now back in a MK5 Gti... drives just as well as the mk6 tbh.
It doesnt really.
He is in a much stronger position to comment i think :wink:
And that makes him right ? No. My comment was not an optinion, it's a fact.
lol he owned a mk6 and is now in a mk5 so im more inclined to believe his opinion as fact rather than yours.
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Ah great news that would give me enough left over for something decent! Why are you back in a mk5 - gti or r32?
you seem to have been swapping more than me! Wrx, and then spent more time in the 118d courtesy car than in the 335d- I've discovered a fast car that sounds slow is no fun at all
some turd in a tranny drove into the MK6. So now back in a MK5 Gti... drives just as well as the mk6 tbh.
It doesnt really.
He is in a much stronger position to comment i think :wink:
And that makes him right ? No. My comment was not an optinion, it's a fact.
lol he owned a mk6 and is now in a mk5 so im more inclined to believe his opinion as fact rather than yours.
I have driven both also, but dont take my word for it, read every single car review on the internet. They drop a few hints for you to grasp.
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Ah great news that would give me enough left over for something decent! Why are you back in a mk5 - gti or r32?
you seem to have been swapping more than me! Wrx, and then spent more time in the 118d courtesy car than in the 335d- I've discovered a fast car that sounds slow is no fun at all
some turd in a tranny drove into the MK6. So now back in a MK5 Gti... drives just as well as the mk6 tbh.
It doesnt really.
He is in a much stronger position to comment i think :wink:
And that makes him right ? No. My comment was not an optinion, it's a fact.
lol he owned a mk6 and is now in a mk5 so im more inclined to believe his opinion as fact rather than yours.
I have driven both also, but dont take my word for it, read every single car review on the internet. They drop a few hints for you to grasp.
He has owned both, very very different to you having 5 mins or a journo driving a mk6 4 years after driving a mk5 :wink:
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Good point if the 335d was to own as it seemed on the test drive I'd probably keeping it - but it's pants
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Shame about your 335d mate! Mums boyfriend owns a 325i se convertible and loves it, its why i want a 335i!
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Brilliant! After an hour & a half mammoth session tonight (and 40 emails spread over 6 weeks!) I've got most of my money back on the beemer.
Tomorrow i'll have cash in the bank for a new car.
Trouble is i'm still undecided. My ideal option is a golf R, but it's just too much. 5/6k more than a gti and £15k more than an R32
So failing that it was R32 + something big for when we (probably) have a 2nd child - i thought the wife was ok(ish) with that plan but now saying i'm being stupid.
so how do i find one car which fits the bill? the beemer was ok, but they had fckd up the leather retrim for the 3rd time, and i was getting around 28mpg (its meant to do 42) (yes my right foot is made of lead, and it was probably more the diesel sound i didn't like, or i'd have let them fix it!)
so- how bad is a GTI DSG in the snow vs R32? the BM was undriveable, even in light slush. if i did go R32 I'm worried i'd but disappointed by the older interior- the mk6's look great with the touchscreen & rearview cam, plus the exterior is NICE.
(i'm more worried i'm trying to talk myself into parting with £36k for an R) - although at least the wife would probably think it was less than 27?
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Golfs better in the snow, Huge massive wide tyres and RWD just don't work especially with that amount of torque. But if you really want the golf to work then get winter tyres, makes a huge difference.
R32 in snow, it imo is all down to tyres and learning to drive in such conditions. Saying that i did have a bit play with a mates octavia TDI haldex 4WD in the snow and it was not that bad.
MPG will be no better in any of the cars you have listed, infact worse i would expect.
40 emails you say, I know what thats like! :sad:
If you want the R you will always regret not getting it imo, there will always be a moment, when you say i wish..., more than likley at a junction when you spin the front wheels of the GTI trying for a quick jump into traffic.
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bollox - i've just built my R, and its 36k, so its well out of range. i can't see a 4k discount coming anytime soon
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If you want a fast estate car, and don't mind second hand, how about an RS4 avant? Awesome motor, shame my wife won't drive it cos its too big! Perfect all round car otherwise :cool:
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Why don't you save some money and go for a GTD, its faster than a GTI.
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R32 is great in snow.. never had any problems with mine.
My comments that the MK5 drives the same as the MK6 stands for 90% of driving. Its only when the mk6 is really pushed does it feel slightly tighter and more focused.
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I found the Mk5 and Mk6 drove very similar (had a couple of long test drives, as kept changing mind about ACC, so probably added up to about 1.5 days as got some long runs in on B roads and motorways). Bought a new car as needed a 5 door as the tilt\slide seats in the 3 door keep breaking which is pants if you've got kids).
"So- how bad is a GTI DSG in the snow vs R32? the BM was undriveable, even in light slush."
Interesting you say this as started to noticed that a few of the people who live by us have current shape 3 series.
The golf mk5 GTI was fine in the snow, even without winter tyers. The traction control etc where excellent. Only problem was not with the car, but when taking my time on the ice, had several tossers who were driving 4X4s tailgateing. On way home the other week driving through a residential estate taking it very easy as was sliding everywhere on the uneaven ice, when had one idiot in his mitsubishi 4x4 truck driving about a 1meter off the back. I badly I wanted to get out and and do a drill instructor on him (especially as I had a 2 year old in the back grrr), but I was starting to loose it so much I know I would have ended up seriously lamping him if he'd try to justify driving like an idiot (and was so dumb he didn't bother trying to overtake even when I was pulled over to the left on a wide residental road, guess he just wanted to be a tosser in his big truck).
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Why don't you save some money and go for a GTD, its faster than a GTI.
Tongue firmly in cheek, Kev? :evil:
If you want a fast estate car, and don't mind second hand, how about an RS4 avant?
S4/RS4 would be my first choice for baby-lugging duties... Just don't mention the running costs! :laugh:
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Why don't you save some money and go for a GTD, its faster than a GTI.
Tongue firmly in cheek, Kev? :evil:
If you want a fast estate car, and don't mind second hand, how about an RS4 avant?
S4/RS4 would be my first choice for baby-lugging duties... Just don't mention the running costs! :laugh:
That's the sh!t I'm being fed in another thread, so it must be true. The GTD is faster than a GTI.
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:grin: :laugh:
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:grin: :laugh:
You should read it mate, for comical value alone its entertaining as hell.
I've just pasted the link around work, I'm patiently awaiting the response.
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exciting times for you bud- never easy having choices
in the end it's only you that can decide between the r32 and gti... was in your shoes late last year shopping around for a new car :grin:
my shortlist came down to 3 cars- cw golf 6 gti dsg, golf 5 r32 and a mini jcw...
test drove them all- struggled finding a well kept low millage r32 as the one they promised me (a dealer) never arrived... :rolleyes: so decided on the new gti. Specced my car and was about to sign the otp when I saw an add for the s3 (low millage and priced in line with the Golf). Had a look at it the Saturday morning- test drove it and I was impressed- VERY confused :undecided: I went straight back to the dealer and asked to test drive the gti again- as I got into the driver seat I thought man this is nice (maybe a little nicer than the Audi) but as I started my trip there was something missing- :huh: The car felt totally different to the previous times I drove it (drove family of ours gti 6 quite extensively) and then it dawned on me- :laugh: it's all in the way the car puts the power down- the quattro is insane around bends- I can honestly say that once you've experienced an awd performance hatch a fwd car will NEVER feel the same again :cry: It's a little sad actually...
I know that many people criticize the lack of involvement of the s3's drive but coming from "fun" cars like the MINI and torque steering Renault RS driving the Audi has a real grown up feel to it... if you're still after the "fun" factor then I would say go for the Gti- it's new, fast enough with a nice interior and will tick all the right boxes for you- if you want a great all rounder with 4 motion included then my choice will be the R32 without a doubt- Good Luck bud! Maybe take an S3 for a spin as well... :lipsrsealed: