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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Exonian on 19 December 2009, 05:17
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For those that haven't already read it:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/FirstDrives/Volkswagen-Golf-2.0-TSI-270-R/246100/
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sounds good so far :cool: :cool:
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Hmmm.
What kind of spec is that? 18" alloys. Manual with the cloth seats and in RED?! Who would chose that for the R? :sick:
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Hmmm.
What kind of spec is that? 18" alloys. Manual with the cloth seats and in RED?! Who would chose that for the R? :sick:
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What a god awful colour! Makes the R look like a cooking Golf...
Sadly the review doesn't bode that well. Scirocco got a better reception, much more fun. Then again, what is the raison d'etre for the R? Is it supposed to be the rapid, refined, near exec cruiser? In which case it has succeeded. I guess the GTI could be more of the traditional "hot hatch", although the Mk6 is too refined really for that role. In general seems that there isn't enough between the two and VW have messed up their model line up.
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I think it reads quite well... as an executive hot hatch! Not chavvy like a Focus, but with the grunt under the 'wolf in sheeps clothing' exterior!
If you look at the pricing on the review it says the price as tested is £28930 - which I believe is the absolute base model with NO options at all. Hence red (non metallic) paint, 18" wheels, manual, cloth etc. It does look a bit ordinary... but then I like it for the reason that its subtle.
I like this bit... "before you have added the must-have DSG option"
Hopefully there will be a bigger bit about it in the magazine next week? I'm surprised they never mentioned its handling in the snow since its 4wd.
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What kind of spec is that? 18" alloys. Manual with the cloth seats and in RED?! Who would chose that for the R? :sick:
Always liked the R32 in red, and I think the R looks equally as good. I much prefer cloth seats to leather so I guess I would be someone who might choose that combo (but with 19's). Having said that, mine is going to be blue :smiley: because most of the the other colours are just going to look like any other Golf - which as said, has its advantages.
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I think it reads quite well... as an executive hot hatch!
Though isn't this what the Golf GTI is?
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Always liked the R32 in red, and I think the R looks equally as good. I much prefer cloth seats to leather so I guess I would be someone who might choose that combo (but with 19's). Having said that, mine is going to be blue :smiley: because most of the the other colours are just going to look like any other Golf - which as said, has its advantages.
Colour is a personal thing, so everyone will be different. I really like the blue promo shots and was tempted... but I can't help feeling that 90% of the Golf R's I see on the road will be rising blue. It will be the only one that really stands out though - and thats why I didn't pick it! Plus I'm not convinced about how it'll look with black wheels.
I know a silver car with black 19" wheels isn't going to go un-noticed, but I hope that in a dark car pack it will stand out a bit less.
I think the red looks good, but it could easily just be a GT as the styling doesn't pop out the same. Perhaps its because without the 19's its missing the black xenons - and they make it look less mean!
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Though isn't this what the Golf GTI is?
Yeah... but is that not what both the MK5 GTI and R32 were too?
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I know a silver car with black 19" wheels isn't going to go un-noticed, but I hope that in a dark car pack it will stand out a bit less.
Good move, because I think the R is going to be a major target for theft. After some of the things you read on forums about break-ins to grab keys, people being threatened etc kind of puts me off a little.
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Good move, because I think the R is going to be a major target for theft.
GREAT! I can't wait to be threatened in my car park with a knife for my keys in a few months!!!
GAP insurance... definately!!! I'll be making sure they cover 'theft with keys' too before I sign!
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Here's a review from a German website. The translation isn't 100%, but most of it makes sense!
A new R experience:
Here comes over GTI: the top golf driving spritziger, sport, more exciting
December in Germany, darker sky - VW now has the perfect antidote for winter depressionen at hand: Golf R. radiant blue it is available in grey Wolfsburg.
So that no one understands the R incorrectly making the optical on over GTI. Huge air intakes are simply breathing the front man, day driving lights flashing evil. And rear mittige double pipe exhaust and a bold roof spoiler, why it only hinterher schaut show.
Because the R is anything but bland. His previous R32 schleppte yet the thick, heavy, durstigen six the sports fans will miss.
Instead of the 2.0 litre TFSI from the Audi röhrt S3, as we know none of sadness in the R now. In the Gulf, it brings torque (formerly 320 NM) direct injection saturated 270 PS and, more importantly, 350 NM. Engine capacity is just to replace: by turbo boost.
The R into which a racer. The engine as a Pygmy Kettenhund awake, happened to the driver. Thanks to Allradantriebs, the golf punches its power without losses in the asphalt. Wet road? No problem. Curves? More, the better. The corner of R is neutral and always faster than allowed. Interesting comparison with the Sirocco is R, the same engine front wheel drive, but it has. What is missing two is bassig blubberige sound of its predecessor. Only when the Hochschalten, the Turbo allows an angry Bollern from armdicken Auspuffrohren.
The Turbo dominated conserve even better than the old VR6. VW promises 8,5 litres - in everyday life there are ten litres and more quickly. Only in price, it could again fall into winter depressionen: the R more than a GTI costs well 10000 USD.
Heading: "that we like": power without remorse, the R is very fast. Nevertheless remains consumption in its.
Heading: "the missing us": the sound, the four missing on the slopes clearly to voice.
Heading: "the surprise us": the comfort adaptive damping chassis hardness take the R
Conclusion:
The R32 is dead, long live the R. With the new golf top model VW presents the perfect athletes. Fast, easy to drive, and reasonably sparingly. Even no criticism? Perhaps this: the R a track is too perfect. Cars with character need something where you can rub.
My opinion:
The performance will be well to criticize, what will be, however interesting, is the first car sound file. Times look what is.
A beautiful GR
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It’s very rapid, yes, but it’s also a smooth, grown up, refined kind of hot hatch, very much in the same vein as the old six cylinder R32 but, sadly, without the creamy soundtrack to go with it
Looks like a Turbo R32 is a better buy then.
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Looks like a Turbo R32 is a better buy then.
If you read the German one (and can make sense of it!) they say the new R is faster, drives better, uses less fuel, and the ACC comfort is good. The ONLY bad thing they say is that it misses the V6 sound.
If this is the case, then I'm delighted as I'm not caring about the sound of the V6.
"Even no criticism? Perhaps this: the R a track is too perfect." - I just hope this doesn't mean its boring like an S3?!
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Looks like a Turbo R32 is a better buy then.
If you read the German one (and can make sense of it!) they say the new R is faster, drives better, uses less fuel, and the ACC comfort is good. The ONLY bad thing they say is that it misses the V6 sound.
If this is the case, then I'm delighted as I'm not caring about the sound of the V6.
"Even no criticism? Perhaps this: the R a track is too perfect." - I just hope this doesn't mean its boring like an S3?!
Yep and thats the problem, it may well be quicker, drive better etc etc but it will have no character and soul, which is what the 3.2 V6 brings the R32 and why the S3 is so boring. I was more than happy to let 'lesser' cars out accelerate me, drive better, use less petrol and be more comfortable as they could never have that noise or the feeling it gave :wink:
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Yep and thats the problem, it may well be quicker, drive better etc etc but it will have no character and soul, which is what the 3.2 V6 brings the R32 and why the S3 is so boring. I was more than happy to let 'lesser' cars out accelerate me, drive better, use less petrol and be more comfortable as they could never have that noise or the feeling it gave :wink:
Like I said... the noise of the car doesn't bother me too much. I usually have my music on and don't hear it anyway.
If the V6 burble is so important, then why have you sold up and gone for a 1.6 mini?! I doubt you'll get a nice note from that?
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Like I said... the noise of the car doesn't bother me too much. I usually have my music on and don't hear it anyway.
If the V6 burble is so important, then why have you sold up and gone for a 1.6 mini?! I doubt you'll get a nice note from that?
lol :grin:
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Like I said... the noise of the car doesn't bother me too much. I usually have my music on and don't hear it anyway.
If the V6 burble is so important, then why have you sold up and gone for a 1.6 mini?! I doubt you'll get a nice note from that?
lol :grin:
That wasn't a dig by the way - it was a genuine question. For the last 2 months Jules has been saying the new R won't be as good as the R32 because its missing the V6. Just curious as to why you'd give it up for a 1.6?
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Because being 23 and owning an R32 and buying my first property just wasn't an option. The cooper will lose little to no money in 1 year, cost much less to run/maintain/fix and much less to insure. Means i can save for something interesting next xmas, possibly a 335i coupe or, if they drop in value, another R32 with a supercharger/turbo charger (money depending)
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Because being 23 and owning an R32 and buying my first property just wasn't an option. The cooper will lose little to no money in 1 year, cost much less to run/maintain/fix and much less to insure. Means i can save for something interesting next xmas, possibly a 335i coupe or, if they drop in value, another R32 with a supercharger/turbo charger (money depending)
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Fair enough! I'm assuming its a used JCW you've got if you're expecting no drop in value?
My mate had one of the first JCW's... it was very quick for the size of it! He ended up selling it because he couldn't afford to run it while he bought a flat!!
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Because being 23 and owning an R32 and buying my first property just wasn't an option. The cooper will lose little to no money in 1 year, cost much less to run/maintain/fix and much less to insure. Means i can save for something interesting next xmas, possibly a 335i coupe or, if they drop in value, another R32 with a supercharger/turbo charger (money depending)
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If you're buying a house, you'd better get used to being broke :grin:
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Because being 23 and owning an R32 and buying my first property just wasn't an option. The cooper will lose little to no money in 1 year, cost much less to run/maintain/fix and much less to insure. Means i can save for something interesting next xmas, possibly a 335i coupe or, if they drop in value, another R32 with a supercharger/turbo charger (money depending)
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Fair enough! I'm assuming its a used JCW you've got if you're expecting no drop in value?
My mate had one of the first JCW's... it was very quick for the size of it! He ended up selling it because he couldn't afford to run it while he bought a flat!!
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Yeah its a used one. Only cost 9k (so 7k left from the 32)
If you're buying a house, you'd better get used to being broke :grin:
Ill be on double what im now in a year and shouldnt struggle at all till then either :wink:
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Yeah its a used one. Only cost 9k (so 7k left from the 32)
I hope you don't need new tyres in the next year then - as those runflats cost an arm and a leg. My mate traded sold his back to BMW - but they wouldn't take it unless it had the proper tyres as they couldn't sell it as an 'approved' Mini without the runflats. Cost him nearly £600 for a pair!
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I doubt 5k miles will wear them out! They look quite new. I might change them for some average ones soon and keep the run flats for when i sell on as they are awful tyres!
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Why don't you join a Mini forum?
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Why don't you join a Mini forum?
WHy don't you sod off to a mint cake forum?
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Why don't you join a Mini forum?
Good point, damn
Well bye everyone!
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Hmmm.
What kind of spec is that? 18" alloys. Manual with the cloth seats and in RED?! Who would chose that for the R? :sick:
Some marketing bint in the press office I would imagine. :wink:
The review probably would have read very differently if the car was the usual press office spec (i.e fully loaded) because the price is too high compared to the Focus RS and Audi S3.
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Do the magazines actually spec up their own car or do they get one on loan from VW?
The Scirocco was the same car that Auto Express, Autocar, Car Magazine, Top Gear all reviewed (same reg plate!)... so I would imagine this Golf will be the same one that they all review over the next week or two.
Its a shame that they got a poor specced one - but I imagine this is so they have to say its price was £29000 rather than £35000!
A fully loaded one can be as much as £41000!
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The manufacturers have a fleet of cars specifically for journalists/magazines/TV - the press office fleet.
They are usually specced up to the hilt with silly options.
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Its why alot of the time i take no notice of car reviews as the reviewer normally has not bothered to find out whats optional. I think its about time car companys only sent basic spec cars to be reviewed and while im on my soap box how about they don't send specially prepaired press models either :wink:
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I can't help feeling that 90% of the Golf R's I see on the road will be rising blue.
^^^^^^^^^agreed, but they will be blue for good reason.
Must confess, not loving that red press car! :sick:
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Sweet, im in a sig. :cool:
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http://www.microsofttranslator.com/BV.aspx?ref=BVNav&from=de&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.autobild.de%2Fartikel%2Ffahrbericht-vw-golf-r_1026495.html
German review above, but layed out properly and with 5 door blue pics!
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This review is a great start. The weather was hardly what you'd call great for UK test drives last week, so I suspect that they couldn't really hammer it. Even so I thought they'd say more about the R's AWD traction. The verdict seems to suggest that the R will very much live up to our expectations. Super fast, super discrete and super comfortable. I am so over thirsty V6s. I want a decent amount of power, but I also want considerably more than 24 mpg. I am prepared to sacrifice the sweet burble of the R32's motor for a more frugal I4.
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The weather was hardly what you'd call great for UK test drives last week, so I suspect that they couldn't really hammer it.
They did have this as a footnote to the review "*Please note that the car was tested in all conditions, not just snow as depicted. "
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Sweet, im in a sig. :cool:
Too funny to resist, Jules! :grin:
5 door blue pics!
Now, THAT's more like it! MUCH nicer than that poverty-spec red 3-dr... :drool:
That Rising Blue is definatley the nicest colour for the R, IMO. It will be far and away the most spec'd, but for good reason :laugh:
I am prepared to sacrifice the sweet burble of the R32's motor for a more frugal I4.
As far as I'm concerned, the jury is still out on this one. I would like to drive the new R and compare it to the R32.
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I like this bit... "before you have added the must-have DSG option"
I just watched the 911 Turbo v R8 V10 v GT-R video (http://www.autocar.co.uk/VideosWallpapers/Videos.aspx?AR=245697&CT=V (http://www.autocar.co.uk/VideosWallpapers/Videos.aspx?AR=245697&CT=V))
Again Steve Sutcliffe reckons that for a fast track time you need to have a decent flappy paddle gearbox