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Title: DSG in the snow
Post by: ChrisbGTI72 on 18 December 2009, 07:32
Question from a manual driver thinking about buying a DSG.

In snow (like this morning where I live!!) when setting off in my car I would normally choose 2nd gear and try and create as few revs as possible to get the car moving.

Is this technique possible in a DSG or do you have to quickly select 2nd gear in manual mode once the wheels have started to spin? or is there a whole different technique I'd not thought of? :grin:

Title: Re: DSG in the snow
Post by: Steve30 on 18 December 2009, 07:41
Hello mate , DSG is perfect in snow in fact its brilliant just turn the ESP button to off and it drives just perfect, but watch out fot the other fools on the road swerving into your lane?? Nightmare that one, I have had manuals in the GTI but DSG is better in the snow and by far better drive. Enjoy Steve30 Edition. :wink:
Title: Re: DSG in the snow
Post by: Hurdy on 18 December 2009, 11:53
DSG + snow = party :grin:

It does work well in the white stuff, the extra bonus is that you can keep both hands on the wheel where they need to be instead of using the old fashoined mixing bowl every now and then. :smiley:.......*runs and hides*
Title: Re: DSG in the snow
Post by: AlanD on 18 December 2009, 12:17
You do all realise manual is better lol :D
Title: Re: DSG in the snow
Post by: FamilyDub on 18 December 2009, 13:11
*runs and hides*

[Goes to look for Hurdy, to  'have a word']  :wink:

You do all realise manual is better lol :D

^^^^^+1!  :grin:
Title: Re: DSG in the snow
Post by: Davstylee on 18 December 2009, 13:19
Having owned manuals for 6 years and now owning a DSG, I can safely say the DSG is far better in the snow for starting off. I had no wheel spin what so ever it was brilliant.

One thing i will say is stopping can be a bit hairy in the snow as i found out today. In a manual you can use the engine to brake via the gears, in DSG it does it slightly but no way as much as you can in a manual. The poor ABS was working over time this morning.
Title: Re: DSG in the snow
Post by: Steve30 on 18 December 2009, 15:09
You do all realise manual is better lol :D

Get on the bus's Alan!! DSG is by far the fastest and drive's much btter enjoy editon30 steve  :laugh:
Title: Re: DSG in the snow
Post by: AlanD on 18 December 2009, 15:10
The poor ABS was working over time this morning.

ABS just simply doesn't work in snow (well, it does a tiny ickle bit) lol you still go flying off :(
Title: Re: DSG in the snow
Post by: bobotheclown on 18 December 2009, 15:11
I found the DSG to be brilliant in the snow. You just select D and lift off the brake and it pulls away with no need to touch the throttle.
Title: Re: DSG in the snow
Post by: smartypants on 18 December 2009, 17:41
Having owned manuals for 6 years and now owning a DSG, I can safely say the DSG is far better in the snow for starting off. I had no wheel spin what so ever it was brilliant.

One thing i will say is stopping can be a bit hairy in the snow as i found out today. In a manual you can use the engine to brake via the gears, in DSG it does it slightly but no way as much as you can in a manual. The poor ABS was working over time this morning.

Its a good job we only have it for 2 days out of 365 :D

Title: Re: DSG in the snow
Post by: Hurdy on 18 December 2009, 23:41
Having owned manuals for 6 years and now owning a DSG, I can safely say the DSG is far better in the snow for starting off. I had no wheel spin what so ever it was brilliant.

One thing i will say is stopping can be a bit hairy in the snow as i found out today. In a manual you can use the engine to brake via the gears, in DSG it does it slightly but no way as much as you can in a manual. The poor ABS was working over time this morning.

Get a REVO DSG remap - you can lockout the box in manual mode, so you get engine braking as well :evil:
Title: Re: DSG in the snow
Post by: JonnyG on 19 December 2009, 14:19
Having owned manuals for 6 years and now owning a DSG, I can safely say the DSG is far better in the snow for starting off. I had no wheel spin what so ever it was brilliant.

One thing i will say is stopping can be a bit hairy in the snow as i found out today. In a manual you can use the engine to brake via the gears, in DSG it does it slightly but no way as much as you can in a manual. The poor ABS was working over time this morning.

As above  ... DSG is great for setting off in D ... gentle and smooth and D will change up to higher gears very quickly

However, I have found stopping is a different matter, particularly on downhill icy stretches, and personally I prefer a manual for stopping.  I found the "creep" in the DSG, which has to be overcome by the braking, makes it harder to feather the braking.  I experimented on my local estate road and found the best method (for me), for stopping to a standstill downhill was to :-

1. Use the paddles in M mode (at sensible revs) to downchange and slow the car in advance
2. Brake as little and gently as possible
3. Put the gearbox into N for the last few metres if very slippy and you think you may start to slide (i.e approaching a standig queue of traffic).

I realise that 3 is against VW advice but it works for me and is only at very low speeds for a few seconds, and is the only way of fully disconnecting drive to the wheels.
Title: Re: DSG in the snow
Post by: JonnyG on 19 December 2009, 14:23
oops
Title: Re: DSG in the snow
Post by: Davstylee on 20 December 2009, 00:28
Having owned manuals for 6 years and now owning a DSG, I can safely say the DSG is far better in the snow for starting off. I had no wheel spin what so ever it was brilliant.

One thing i will say is stopping can be a bit hairy in the snow as i found out today. In a manual you can use the engine to brake via the gears, in DSG it does it slightly but no way as much as you can in a manual. The poor ABS was working over time this morning.

Get a REVO DSG remap - you can lockout the box in manual mode, so you get engine braking as well :evil:

That sounds good, you got a website I can check out for more info?
Title: Re: DSG in the snow
Post by: Hurdy on 20 December 2009, 01:06
Having owned manuals for 6 years and now owning a DSG, I can safely say the DSG is far better in the snow for starting off. I had no wheel spin what so ever it was brilliant.

One thing i will say is stopping can be a bit hairy in the snow as i found out today. In a manual you can use the engine to brake via the gears, in DSG it does it slightly but no way as much as you can in a manual. The poor ABS was working over time this morning.

Get a REVO DSG remap - you can lockout the box in manual mode, so you get engine braking as well :evil:

That sounds good, you got a website I can check out for more info?


Here you go....

http://www.revotechnik.com/aboutRevo/news/dsg.aspx

Look down at the bottom of the page on that link and you will see that they have a deal on till the end of the year...50% off if you already have a REVO ECU map :shocked:
Title: Re: DSG in the snow
Post by: mr magoo on 21 December 2009, 21:38
Have found the DSG to be fine in snowy / icy conditions.

Was worried this morning however. Tried to set off in the car and the dront wheels were going crazy, spinning away, but I was hardly moving. Snow flying everywhere.

Then I realised I still had the handbrake on ...  :embarassed: :grin:
Title: Re: DSG in the snow
Post by: SoVW on 22 December 2009, 01:14
I had a bit of an accident this morning, I'm normally pretty quick out of my drive, even reversing, as it's a private road. And didn't compensate for the snow, so was shooting back I didn't see a man smack back in the middle of the drive and ran him straight over, even though I was braking, car skidded! As I was going quite fast, he went right over, and oh what a mess! His carrot was squashed and everything. The coal survived alright though.
Title: Re: DSG in the snow
Post by: mr magoo on 22 December 2009, 21:39
I had a bit of an accident this morning, I'm normally pretty quick out of my drive, even reversing, as it's a private road. And didn't compensate for the snow, so was shooting back I didn't see a man smack back in the middle of the drive and ran him straight over, even though I was braking, car skidded! As I was going quite fast, he went right over, and oh what a mess! His carrot was squashed and everything. The coal survived alright though.

"... man smack bang in the middle of the drive ..." "... what a mess! His carrot was squashed and everything..."

Hope you're referring to a SNOWman and not a real man. The thought of a real man's carrot getting squashed makes my eyes water   :laugh: