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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: BuckieGTI on 16 December 2009, 01:45
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Been looking for a xmas present for myself in the form of a little remap, all offer similar sort of power increases I think and each have there advantages with location. ie I'm in the sticks north of aberdeen. Any suggestions?? I know the GIAC doesnt effect the ECU counter but what about the rest of them? Also got to think that maybe a switching between progs would be handy when i leave the motor in my old dears hands when i'm away abroad working. Help!!! I cant let a clio 172 cup be as quick!!
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i've got bluefin on my ed30 and am well pleased with it. customer service was second to none, you can revert back to standard anytime you want, you can immobilise your car if you are leaving it for any length of time, and you dont have to go anywhere to have it fitted, postman brings it to you. not sure on this next statement, but another bluefin customer told me it also resets the flash counter everytime you use it. i've only heard good reports about the other remaps you've mentioned, horses for courses, sure you wont go far wrong with any of them. Let us know which one you go for.
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As suggested, you pay your money and take your choice.
You may wish to consider whether you're likely to add complimentary modifications e.g exhaust, fuel pump, induction kit.
Stage2+ (using these bits) is available now and has been proven to offer significant gains over stage1/2 alone.
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Revo gives loads of smiles with it's aggressive delivery but it's killed my standard clutch very quickly. If i was choosing again I'd go for the less aggressive blu fin remap
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Mine is revo stage2+ running 360bhp and my clutch has just started to slip.
Unfortunately it's the torque that wears the clutch, whilst the s/c and bluefin are a little less boosty it's a likely outcome sooner or later from most of them.
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I've run APR, Custom-Code and REVO on my car.
I'm now using REVO......nuff said :cool:
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You can add MRC into the equation - the only true custom remap IMHO. www.mrctuning.com
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revo all zeee way :grin:
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could I ask, what are the possible damages of 360bhp on a mk5 DSG? because its cheaper to get my hands on a 2 to 3year old used one to a brand new mk6! and I'm guessing this will surely need an upgrading of the fuel pump, ignition, injectors and straight through + de cat?
kindly guide me along and correct me if I'm wrong as I'm still acquiring my knowledge on euro cars! thanx! :embarassed:
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just a map with a hpfp and sports cat with less restrictive exhaust is all that's needed for around 340bhp
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revo for me, you can adjust your settings yourself. ive also got a valet map for when the misses wants to drive it which cuts the boost (she doesnt understand how to drive safely and quicky!!) and when i go away ive got the immobiliser function. i spent a long time deciding on the route to take (same as phil) i came to the conclusion that the revo software fits me perectly and phil decided on superchips for the same reasons and we are both happy.
i would say do as much research as you can, and only go with what you feel comfortable with :smiley:
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just a map with a hpfp and sports cat with less restrictive exhaust is all that's needed for around 340bhp
hpfp = high pressure fuel pump? :embarassed:
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just a map with a hpfp and sports cat with less restrictive exhaust is all that's needed for around 340bhp
for a true 340 on a decent RR you will need to do a bit more for that. full exhaust, hpfp, big intercooler and CAI are a minimum. although saying that people do get 340 on some of the less conservative rollers with just exhaust and pump. its a bit of a money pit really this number chasing!
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It isn't just number chasing. I'm after the ultimate K04'd DSG car. I'm NOT particularly looking to completely strip it out and have a bare race car, I want sounds and some creature comforts too.
BHP and LBFT figures are good for the banter, but putting in a good time on a 1/4 mile or a decent lap time is more what floats my boat.
GotTurboInside - Do you have a K04'd GTI or a K03?
If you are K04'd then to make 340bhp you'll at least need REVO stage 2+, which means HPFP (yes a High Pressure Fuel Pump!), Intake and Turbo-back exhaust. To keep temps cool I'd recommend upgrading the intercooler too.
A DSG with a DSG remap is easily capable of handling 340bhp. More importantly it is the torque which can destroy transmissions, so a car with 350lbft should be okay with DSG and a DSG remap. REVO and GIAC DSG maps are both rated to utilise the gearbox to safely handle 500nm (approx 370lbft) :smiley:
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It isn't just number chasing. I'm after the ultimate K04'd DSG car. I'm NOT particularly looking to completely strip it out and have a bare race car, I want sounds and some creature comforts too.
BHP and LBFT figures are good for the banter, but putting in a good time on a 1/4 mile or a decent lap time is more what floats my boat.
GotTurboInside - Do you have a K04'd GTI or a K03?
If you are K04'd then to make 340bhp you'll at least need REVO stage 2+, which means HPFP (yes a High Pressure Fuel Pump!), Intake and Turbo-back exhaust. To keep temps cool I'd recommend upgrading the intercooler too.
A DSG with a DSG remap is easily capable of handling 340bhp. More importantly it is the torque which can destroy transmissions, so a car with 350lbft should be okay with DSG and a DSG remap. REVO and GIAC DSG maps are both rated to utilise the gearbox to safely handle 500nm (approx 370lbft) :smiley:
Hi Hurdy, thanks for the info. Well I haven't got my hands on a GTI yet :cry: I was deciding whether to get a used MK5 (roughly about 2 to 3 years old) or a brand new MK6. Most unfortunately for me here, as the car (New MK6) would cost you about $25,000 Pounds there, for me here, it'll cost me $130,000 Singapore Dollars which is about $56,000 odd Pounds after the currency exchange. You can buy 2 GTI's and crash test one. Its a huge rip off purchasing Euro cars at my place. Thus, I see myself settling for a used MK5 instead. :embarassed: :cry: :cry: :cry:
I'm quite new to the Euro platform as I'm currently driving a Honda. And it being a Jap car, it basically became an experiment car! (although i got it of the showroom brand new and it's my 1st car). So like within 1 and a half years, I took it to extreme NA, to full race spec turbo . . . and now back to stock due to financial issues. :embarassed: :embarassed: :embarassed:
I'm looking forward to Euro whips like VW! Can't say enough about them. The more I research, the deeper I fall in love with them. OMG!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
My apologies for the short side track! Back to the topic! :grin:
I'll be very honest with you on this. I don't want to cock up and end up with a configuration I'll end up regretting!
1) How would I know what turbo it's running on? :embarassed:
I'm assuming K04 will be better turbo, But,
2) Is the K04 the stock turbo on the MK5 GTI? Or is it the K03?
a) If the K03 is the stock turbo for the MK5 GTI, is it possible for me to see such figures?
3) Could you shed some light on this "Edition 30" please? :embarassed: :embarassed: :embarassed:
Just like you, I'm looking to strip my bare, I'll use my car for daily driving, and the occasional aggressiveness as well. I'll be keeping this car for a longer time, so I really want it to "have some balls" as well. :evil: :evil: :evil:
Please be patient with me as I'm still learning the ropes. :smiley: :wink: :embarassed:
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I don't know exactly what car is supplied to Singapore, but most standard GTI's came with a K03 turbo. The K03 with modifications will reach around 280bhp with full bolt-ons.
The Edition 30 and Pirelli Edition GTI's were versions of the MK5 GTI that had several upgrades from VW over the standard GTI. The main differences were that they utilised a larger K04 turbo, which with full bolt ons is capable of over 360bhp and similar torque. These "special editions" were mainly supplied to European countries, but a few did migrate as far as Australia.
The Standard K03 GTI has 197bhp (officially) as standard
The Edition 30/ Pirelli Edition has 227bhp (officially) as standard.
I deliberately say "officially" as some ED30's have seen over 240bhp standard and Standard GTI's over 210bhp.
The Edition 30 as standard is quite quick and Volkswagen Driver magazine did GPS based road testing on it and the car did 0-60mph in 5.6 seconds!!
:smiley:
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The K03 with modifications will reach around 280bhp with full bolt-ons.
Some can produce a bit more hp... :wink:
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The K03 with modifications will reach around 280bhp with full bolt-ons.
Some can produce a bit more hp... :wink:
I was thinking about your car when I wrote that :laugh:
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hhmm . . . then in this case, I find it more practical and cost saving to get the MK5 GTI instead of the MK6.
And also as some have also mentioned that the MK6 is merely a facelift of the MK5! Although some slight adjustments like a better fuel pump, 10 more BHP (which IMO i find it ridiculous) and a little change in the design of the front bumper!
Can k03 be swapped for the k04 turbo?
Any adverse side effects expected?
Because if the Edition 30/Pirelli uses a k04 turbo and the rest are kept the same like the Standard,
then,
Wouldn't be the "same" if I had the Standard, But swapped it for the k04 and do a remap?
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hhmm . . . then in this case, I find it more practical and cost saving to get the MK5 GTI instead of the MK6.
And also as some have also mentioned that the MK6 is merely a facelift of the MK5! Although some slight adjustments like a better fuel pump, 10 more BHP (which IMO i find it ridiculous) and a little change in the design of the front bumper!
Can k03 be swapped for the k04 turbo?
Any adverse side effects expected?
Because if the Edition 30/Pirelli uses a k04 turbo and the rest are kept the same like the Standard,
then,
Wouldn't be the "same" if I had the Standard, But swapped it for the k04 and do a remap?
Yes a K03 to a K04 is a relatively easy swap compared with going big turbo, but you would need quite a few bolt on bits :cool:
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Superchips Bluefin is Ace.
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hhmm . . . then in this case, I find it more practical and cost saving to get the MK5 GTI instead of the MK6.
And also as some have also mentioned that the MK6 is merely a facelift of the MK5! Although some slight adjustments like a better fuel pump, 10 more BHP (which IMO i find it ridiculous) and a little change in the design of the front bumper!
Can k03 be swapped for the k04 turbo?
Any adverse side effects expected?
Because if the Edition 30/Pirelli uses a k04 turbo and the rest are kept the same like the Standard,
then,
Wouldn't be the "same" if I had the Standard, But swapped it for the k04 and do a remap?
Yes a K03 to a K04 is a relatively easy swap compared with going big turbo, but you would need quite a few bolt on bits :cool:
I'm guessing this would include, injectors, ignition, FMIC, DV? and not forgetting the remap!?