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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Golf mk4 TDI => Topic started by: smiiithy on 15 December 2009, 14:33

Title: How to tell the difference between a 110, 115, 130 and 150?
Post by: smiiithy on 15 December 2009, 14:33
Can anybody tell me how I tell which Golf TDi is a 110, 115, 130 or 150? I’ve found that some of the 150’s advertised seem to be a different model or the owner isn’t sure. When I HPI’d it (RAC) the 150 I went to view at Bradford it didn’t give those details, it even said it was a 5 speed when it was a 6. One insurance company give me a quote for it thinking it was a 130 and another company thought it was a 150.
Title: Re: How to tell the difference between a 110, 115, 130 and 150?
Post by: Adam on 15 December 2009, 14:37
The best thing you can do is check the engine code. Go into the boot and lift the carpet and the engine code should be on a white sticker. Its also on the engine, on the cam belt cover(?)

The 115, 130, and 150s all had a 6 speed box. These engines were PD engines. You can also tell they are PD engines by the engine cover. You can pop the cover off, but the non-PD engines (90, 110s) you had to remove a few screws to get it off. They also have 5 speed boxes.

The 130s also came with an arm rest as standard. 150s came with walnut  :sick: trim like the GTi 1.8T.

There have been confusions in insurance company's mucking up the models. Mine come up as a 150 and I can assure you its not. 
Title: Re: How to tell the difference between a 110, 115, 130 and 150?
Post by: Rhyso on 15 December 2009, 14:41
Engine code is pretty much the only way to verify what you're looking at

AHF = 110bhp
AJM = 115bhp
ASZ =130bhp
ARL = 150bhp

Looking for this code in the spare wheel well on the white sticker, side of the engine block or the front of the service book
Title: Re: How to tell the difference between a 110, 115, 130 and 150?
Post by: smiiithy on 15 December 2009, 14:52
Cheers guys.

Perfect, just what I'm looking for. Eyes pealed for a ASZ on the sticker then :wink:

Is the TDi colouring different on each model like some Renaults? I know this is no good when buying a car as it's too easily changed but funny at the lights when you leave an unsuspecting chav with your R-Tech remap and other mods :grin:

Engine code is pretty much the only way to verify what you're looking at

AHF = 110bhp
AJM = 115bhp
ASZ =130bhp
ARL = 150bhp

Looking for this code in the spare wheel well on the white sticker, side of the engine block or the front of the service book
Title: Re: How to tell the difference between a 110, 115, 130 and 150?
Post by: Rhyso on 15 December 2009, 15:00
GT TDI's are pretty much GTi spec in that they have body coloured rub strips, door handles, door mirrors etc

S & SE models had black rubstrips and handles

And ignore the badges on the back too  :wink:
Title: Re: How to tell the difference between a 110, 115, 130 and 150?
Post by: Adam on 15 December 2009, 15:14
GT TDI's are pretty much GTi spec in that they have body coloured rub strips, door handles, door mirrors etc

S & SE models had black rubstrips and handles

And ignore the badges on the back too  :wink:

The 150s also have the better suspension set up.

Yeah badges mean noting. Dealers put what they wanted on them. 
Title: Re: How to tell the difference between a 110, 115, 130 and 150?
Post by: smiiithy on 15 December 2009, 15:21
But the 150's are rare, expensive and are more likely to have been given a hard time than a 130. I'll probably find a better model of 130 than 150 simply due to availability and post R-Tech there will be very little difference. Would you agree?
Title: Re: How to tell the difference between a 110, 115, 130 and 150?
Post by: Adam on 15 December 2009, 15:25
But the 150's are rare, expensive and are more likely to have been given a hard time than a 130. I'll probably find a better model of 130 than 150 simply due to availability and post R-Tech there will be very little difference. Would you agree?

Yes but they can remap quite a bit higher. The do have a somewhat higher price tag on them because of the fact they are rarer than the others. I only looked at the 130 when I got mine. Even the 130s are rare in my area.
Title: Re: How to tell the difference between a 110, 115, 130 and 150?
Post by: smiiithy on 15 December 2009, 15:30
R-Tech say that some of the 130's can map better than the 150's so I'm determined not to get hung up on the 150's. I’m sure you know as well as anybody a remaped 130 is not to be underestimated :cool:

I wonder if they would do the typically desired Vagcom and Vagtacho mods too
VAGCOM
1) Auto Lock
2) Auto Unlock
3) Beep On Lock
4) Remote Windows

VAGTACHO
1) Miles To Empty
2) Illuminated Needles
Title: Re: How to tell the difference between a 110, 115, 130 and 150?
Post by: Rhyso on 15 December 2009, 15:34
Speak to Topher (Chris) nicely and I'm sure he'd sort those out for you :afro:

Food for thought i have seen 190bhp from my 130......though that was on R-Tech's rollers running what Nick thinks is slightly unrealistic software so they went back to a previous version which I then saw 177bhp with a knackered intercooler

Roll on January 10th........
Title: Re: How to tell the difference between a 110, 115, 130 and 150?
Post by: smiiithy on 15 December 2009, 15:37
I'll look forward to seeing what you come out with since your derv project thread is the seed of my aspirations. I’ll just save the money all the places you had any problems :grin:
Title: Re: How to tell the difference between a 110, 115, 130 and 150?
Post by: Adam on 15 December 2009, 15:40
I'll look forward to seeing what you come out with since your derv project thread is the seed of my aspirations. I’ll just save the money all the places you had any problems :grin:

He was the the seed of my aspiration aswell. I blame him for making me spend all my money.
Title: Re: How to tell the difference between a 110, 115, 130 and 150?
Post by: Rhyso on 15 December 2009, 15:49
I'll look forward to seeing what you come out with since your derv project thread is the seed of my aspirations. I’ll just save the money all the places you had any problems :grin:

He was the the seed of my aspiration aswell. I blame him for making me spend all my money.

not my fault you can't control you're spending  :tongue:
Title: Re: How to tell the difference between a 110, 115, 130 and 150?
Post by: smiiithy on 15 December 2009, 15:52
Mind I don't plan on doing quite everything.

Full service and Pipercross panel filter in the week I get it
Stage 1 Remap
Upgraded clutch if it shows any signs of slipping
MP3 player unless it has a CD changer
TDi door sills
Fancy gear knob
Pressed plates
Any parts that need replacing I'll be looking for upgraded parts like brakes from the scrappy
Any styling parts for a good price I like the look of on eBay
By the time I've done all that I'll be thinking about a Stage 2 Remap depending on how she's pulling

Then the mod addiction kicks in and I'll just hand my wallet over..
Title: Re: How to tell the difference between a 110, 115, 130 and 150?
Post by: Rhyso on 15 December 2009, 16:01
ha thats how i started out  :grin: :grin:

4 years later and I'm still spending  :undecided: :huh: :laugh: :laugh:

After this weekend most of the major upgrades will be completed and then it might just be a couple of odd things here and there (yeah right!)  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: How to tell the difference between a 110, 115, 130 and 150?
Post by: smiiithy on 15 December 2009, 16:03
I tell you what I'll wait until your finished and give you £4k for yours? :grin:  :grin:  :grin:  :grin:  :grin:
Title: Re: How to tell the difference between a 110, 115, 130 and 150?
Post by: Rhyso on 15 December 2009, 16:04
I tell you what I'll wait until your finished and give you £4k for yours? :grin:  :grin:  :grin:  :grin:  :grin:

You can have it now for 4K lol
Title: Re: How to tell the difference between a 110, 115, 130 and 150?
Post by: Adam on 15 December 2009, 16:05
I tell you what I'll wait until your finished and give you £4k for yours? :grin:  :grin:  :grin:  :grin:  :grin:

You can have it now for 4K lol

!!!!!! Seriously?  :huh:
Title: Re: How to tell the difference between a 110, 115, 130 and 150?
Post by: smiiithy on 15 December 2009, 16:16
Should I get my coat?

Outward Journey (19 Dec 2009)
Depart 07:44 Newcastle
Arrive 13:22 Cardiff Central
Duration 5h 38m
First Class Single £107.50
Title: Re: How to tell the difference between a 110, 115, 130 and 150?
Post by: Rhyso on 15 December 2009, 16:18
Should I get my coat?

Outward Journey (19 Dec 2009)
Depart 07:44 Newcastle
Arrive 13:22 Cardiff Central
Duration 5h 38m
First Class Single £107.50

I would - its another 25 miles from Cardiff to Merthyr  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:










Pulling your leg I'm afraid mate  :tongue:  can't afford to change it and I'm looking forward to the time where it might run tidy for more than a week or so  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: How to tell the difference between a 110, 115, 130 and 150?
Post by: smiiithy on 15 December 2009, 16:21
Thought so but worth a try :smug:

I'll give you a striaght swap for a 2002 Renault Clio dCi 1.5 65 with 103K miles on the clock? Would give you plenty on room to improve :grin:  :grin:  :grin:  :grin:
Title: Re: How to tell the difference between a 110, 115, 130 and 150?
Post by: Rhyso on 15 December 2009, 16:24
Thought so but worth a try :smug:

I'll give you a striaght swap for a 2002 Renault Clio dCi 1.5 65 with 103K miles on the clock? Would give you plenty on room to imrpove :grin:  :grin:  :grin:  :grin:

Urm nope  :tongue:  girlfriend's mother-in-law has a Clio and even when the seat is pushed all the way back my knees are up around my ears  :grin: :grin:  barely fit in it lol
Title: Re: How to tell the difference between a 110, 115, 130 and 150?
Post by: smiiithy on 15 December 2009, 16:30
Go on then I'll give you the Clio and £20 your way? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: How to tell the difference between a 110, 115, 130 and 150?
Post by: Rhyso on 15 December 2009, 16:31
Go on then I'll give you the Clio and £20 your way? :rolleyes:

you're a funny bloke  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: How to tell the difference between a 110, 115, 130 and 150?
Post by: Adam on 15 December 2009, 16:31
Go on then I'll give you the Clio and £20 your way? :rolleyes:

I will take that offer but make it £100......you won't get my car in this trade your paying me to drive the clio.
Title: Re: How to tell the difference between a 110, 115, 130 and 150?
Post by: smiiithy on 15 December 2009, 16:32
Ah I'll just find my own then :angry: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: How to tell the difference between a 110, 115, 130 and 150?
Post by: smiiithy on 15 December 2009, 19:50
My seller says he can't see any of those letters on the front of the service book. Would this be different on an import? :huh:

Engine code is pretty much the only way to verify what you're looking at

AHF = 110bhp
AJM = 115bhp
ASZ =130bhp
ARL = 150bhp

Looking for this code in the spare wheel well on the white sticker, side of the engine block or the front of the service book
Title: Re: How to tell the difference between a 110, 115, 130 and 150?
Post by: Rhyso on 15 December 2009, 19:59
My seller says he can't see any of those letters on the front of the service book. Would this be different on an import? :huh:

Engine code is pretty much the only way to verify what you're looking at

AHF = 110bhp
AJM = 115bhp
ASZ =130bhp
ARL = 150bhp

Looking for this code in the spare wheel well on the white sticker, side of the engine block or the front of the service book

pretty sure the engine codes are standard across Europe

get him to check the sticker in the spare wheel well or on the timing belt cover
Title: Re: How to tell the difference between a 110, 115, 130 and 150?
Post by: smiiithy on 15 December 2009, 20:03
I'm going to check it for myself tomorrow and will get the number. Not even taking the cash with me but taking it to the garage to put it on the diagnostic computer and let my mechanic get under it.