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Title: Buying a DSG Edition 30. Can't find an answer to the following query
Post by: willywonka on 08 December 2009, 19:48
Hi,
 I'm the process of sourcing an edition 30. I've test driven two so far and it's the first time I've ever driven DSG.
I've experienced a strange behaviour when using the paddle shifts on the second car which I can't figure out if it's "how they work (tm)" or a fault. Searching in this forum or others has revealed no similar experiences.

When driving in manual mode, and at a sedate pace, when trying to change from 2nd to 3rd by pulling the + paddle, nothing happened. Pulling a 2nd or 3rd time resulted in the desired upshift. Sadly I didn't test shifting with the gearstick cause I forgot about that method and I don't remember if the same thing happened when down shifting. When 'pressing on', nothing similar was experienced, and using the D/S auto modes revealed nothing similar.
The same behaviour was experienced whether specifically in manual mode, or whether in 'induced manual' mode as a result of pulling the paddles when in the auto modes.

Can anyone experienced please let me know if this is a) "just how they work sir (tm)" b) something weird that needs further attention c) a symptom of a known fault on these cars.
Is it possible that the manual gear shift was ignored cause I was driving too slow? I didn't experience this in the 1st car, although on that occassion I was not held up by traffic and pressing on most of the time.

The car is an 08 plate.

cheers.
Title: Re: Buying a DSG Edition 30. Can't find an answer to the following query
Post by: Saint Steve on 08 December 2009, 20:01
08 car has warranty, get them to check that out on Vag com.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Buying a DSG Edition 30. Can't find an answer to the following query
Post by: Hurdy on 08 December 2009, 23:18
In manual mode it depends on what revs you want to gear up at. If you try to gear up too early the box will not let you as you have to be over a certain rev threshold to be able to do it. This is to protect the box from stalling the engine and damaging the box :smiley:
Title: Re: Buying a DSG Edition 30. Can't find an answer to the following query
Post by: ifti on 09 December 2009, 20:39
When I shift up, its fine throughout all the gears. However, if you are driving slow make sure you shift up when you are over at least 2000 revs. It should then shift up fine. If the revs are too low, it wont shift up as its protecting the box, as Hurdy above mentions.
Just like when you are slowing down - if you dont shift down, as the revs fall, the car will shift down for you, to protect the box and stop the engine from stalling.
Title: Re: Buying a DSG Edition 30. Can't find an answer to the following query
Post by: Schuey on 09 December 2009, 23:10
In manual mode it depends on what revs you want to gear up at. If you try to gear up too early the box will not let you as you have to be over a certain rev threshold to be able to do it. This is to protect the box from stalling the engine and damaging the box :smiley:

When I shift up, its fine throughout all the gears. However, if you are driving slow make sure you shift up when you are over at least 2000 revs. It should then shift up fine. If the revs are too low, it wont shift up as its protecting the box, as Hurdy above mentions.
Just like when you are slowing down - if you dont shift down, as the revs fall, the car will shift down for you, to protect the box and stop the engine from stalling.

Exactly what Hurdy said then but he used far fewer words............... :laugh: :smug:
Title: Re: Buying a DSG Edition 30. Can't find an answer to the following query
Post by: willywonka on 10 December 2009, 00:35
Thanks for the advice guys, I'll be testing it again tomorrow to make sure. Found a couple of other forums that mentioned the paddle switches going bad so I'll be comparing the paddles to the gear stick to see if they react differently.
Title: Re: Buying a DSG Edition 30. Can't find an answer to the following query
Post by: willywonka on 11 December 2009, 22:42
After checking the car out again I think I must have been special needs the first time around. I couldn't reproduce the behaviour unless doing low-low RPM. The car now joins 2 friends in the garage.

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_Xo-nhktpZ30/SyLH2bhLvHI/AAAAAAAAAig/iX4-yYhthQ0/s400/HDR5.jpg)(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_Xo-nhktpZ30/SyLFedczf4I/AAAAAAAAAhc/WPS8S2uwWNM/s400/P1100693_2.jpg)(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Xo-nhktpZ30/SyLFpzY_w5I/AAAAAAAAAhw/9_jsTbZB8p4/s400/DSC01279.jpg)
Title: Re: Buying a DSG Edition 30. Can't find an answer to the following query
Post by: Jkctr on 12 December 2009, 08:46
A few mods to your ED30 and you will be able to do this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHQvSLqU7Is
Title: Re: Buying a DSG Edition 30. Can't find an answer to the following query
Post by: rjwojcik on 12 December 2009, 20:43
Nice car, you pipped me to the post on the car (small world).  Well done, nice examples do not hang around.