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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: Scottie33 on 04 December 2009, 09:17
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Hi chaps, our Golfs poorly, we think its gradualy sucked up water from its induction kit which was located down in the wing & since monday has run like a bag of nails, keeps cutting out & loads of white smoke out the back when you try to rev it.
Ive taken the I/K off now and replaced it with a orginal item (thanks stevens breakers), took maf off, plugs out etc to dry them abit. Wasnt too much there but still dont know what else to do, my dad has given us his little runaround to use so Golf is just sitting there now, :cry:
What do you guys advise?
Please help a newbie
For Sale : Induction Kit :rolleyes:
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Do you remember going throught any large puddles or water when driving?
Is it a 1.8T? If so take the intercooler off and see if any water comes out if there as some might water might be sitting in it.
Does the oil look ok? Is theres any water in there? What coilout is the smoke out the back? Is it white or a whitey /blue colour?
Where about are you in the UK, as some one on here with Vag Com might be local to you who can plug in and see if its just a falty sencer or somthing.
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If you have got water in the engine that is NOT GOOD at all
Some people like to call it (hydro lock)
Basically the engine cannot compress water and causes serious damage either to rods or pistons! If its smoking it could be rings! Is it buey/white smoke?
Or it is possible that the intake of water has knocked out the timing! i.e. the car is running sh!te because the timing is now out! i..e your valves and movement are not in order!
My induction kit is the Carbonio kit and that sits near the floor in the wing, theses are lethal in reagards to water!
Are there any knocking noises coming from the engine? I.e towards the bottom end?
Jake
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As a wise man once said your con rods will look like bananas
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Not sure how to remedy the solution, but going forward stick to the proper airbox, and put a better panel filter in it :smiley:
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In the words of Vinne Jones "This will get messy" :(
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Mate of mine drove through a flood (ford) with a low level induction kit on... pushed out lots of black smoke and wouldnt start after. Got the AA out to it fearing the worst, but the guy took out the spark plugs and used a squeezy bottle type thing (with a long tube and kind of trigger gun at the top) to get the water out. Tube down below the spark plugs and sucked out the water.
His car seemed to work fine after!
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Its going in next thursday to have a compression test done & we're going to take the intercooler off to see if theres any water in there. Best to start with the simple things.
Thanks for the replies, will keep thread updated
Scott
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Had a compression test done at my local VW dealer today & it came back fine : 1) 9.7 2) 9.6 3) 9.3 4) 9.5 bar.
We havent started / drove the car since last thursday but took it easy only giving it abit of welly once I was nearly there just to see & all was good. On the way home I drove it quiet hard, again just to see if there were any side affects but it looks like all is fine & only needed time to dry out.
Will keep my eye on it tho & will tell the wife to take it easy the next few weeks - just in case!
Thanks everyone,
Scott.
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WOW!! :shocked: :shocked:
That's well lucky!!!!!! :shocked: :shocked:
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Yeah we thought the worse too - fingers crossed
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should be fine aslong as no water was left in the bores sat over time as the liners corrode. We hydro locked a diesel once when we went off roading, just took the glow plugs out and turned it over, whatever was in the chambers flew out like a rocket :laugh: and
was fine staright after that!
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The whole CAI or no CAI argument always produces a clear divide of thoughts lol, glad you car's ok mate!
I run a CAI and my car is sensibly lowered (approx 40mm) and the CAI must sit about 300mm off the deck? I have never actually measured it but i have to reach round and under the bumper to touch it with the car parked up. You would have to drive through a seriously deep puddle (ford, stream etc), and the filter would have to be fully submerged to actually suck up a decent amount of water.
I know there was a guy on ukmkiv's (before i discovered this forum!) that wrecked his engine and all the CAI haters went on a mission about "i told you so". It turned out he was driving up a ridiculously steep hill in torrential rain where there was no proper drainage for the water so it was kind of like driving up a small river lol! The other guy i heard of went round a blind corner in the wet and hit a flood in a dip in the road caused by a blocked drain. Both very unlucky, but very unlikely events!
Anyway not wanting to start a CAI/non-CAI argument just thought it was worth telling my experiences as i did a LOT of research before installing one.
Hope everything remains OK after the mishap mate! :wink:
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You were probably lucky and there was only enough water in the engine to 'burn' or 'steam'. If there had of been alot, you could have cracked the engine block, because as said before, fluid cannot be compressed.