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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: Brads MK2 GTI on 23 November 2009, 11:57

Title: Electric Windows
Post by: Brads MK2 GTI on 23 November 2009, 11:57
Well having lot's of luck now, why does everything break at once? :( So my driver electric window has just died (luckily when it's up!) and I'm fairly sure it's the motor so should be ok doing this, anyone reccomend where to get a new one from? GSF, scrappy's etc?

Also because I've got a 5 door how can I convert the rear windows from manual to electric? I know I'll need the motors and wiring, anyone got a step by step to doing this?
Title: Re: Electric Windows
Post by: mattneck(Beavis) on 23 November 2009, 12:56
Front lifter with motor is quite pricey new.. though I can quote on a valeo unit.. its still quite pricey..  :rolleyes: really selling tihs arent I

£96+VAT.. £235.30 dealer retail  :shocked:

I think GSF ones are mech only no motor..
Title: Re: Electric Windows
Post by: Brads MK2 GTI on 23 November 2009, 13:00
ZOMG!!!  :shocked:
Title: Re: Electric Windows
Post by: tony_ack on 23 November 2009, 13:01
There are some on Ebay unless you can find one in the scrappy. There is a difference between the quality of the ones you get on Ebay though. I learnt the hard way - I went for the cheap one and it was poor quality, shaky when operated and broke within a month.

I then got one of these to replace it:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-GOLF-GTI-MK2-BRAND-NEW-ELECTRIC-WINDOW-MOTOR-O-S_W0QQitemZ130346446975QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item1e5940f07f

Expensive I know, but the guy claims it's made by the same company who made them for VW. Whether that's true or not, it works perfectly and has done for the last 6 months.
Title: Re: Electric Windows
Post by: Brads MK2 GTI on 23 November 2009, 13:04
Hmm can't get on the bay at work, at least until I find another proxy server that's not blocked yet! How much are these going for?
Title: Re: Electric Windows
Post by: tony_ack on 23 November 2009, 16:54
£59 for the good one, with £10 postage, or he's in Huddersfield if you want to collect. The trader is actually Dubbers VW, who have a decent reputation.

Cheap one is £36 with £6 postage
Title: Re: Electric Windows
Post by: weazgti on 24 November 2009, 19:37
fookin ell thats steep. are the motors the same front and rear? my rear one is knackered.
Title: Re: Electric Windows
Post by: dadrathers on 24 November 2009, 21:50
I have fitted a pair of Dubbers motors and mechs - you can tell by the weight of the motor and the rigidity of the lifter rail that they are top quality. £59 is an excellent price.
Title: Re: Electric Windows
Post by: Brads MK2 GTI on 25 November 2009, 08:56
So once I get the door card off has anyone got any troubleshooting ideas? I imagine it's the motor, it's alwats been slower than the passenger side and recently has been a little on and off about working. Both front windows run off one fuse right?

Also is it an MOT fail to have a driver side window not able to open because of this?
Title: Re: Electric Windows
Post by: tony_ack on 25 November 2009, 13:22
So once I get the door card off has anyone got any troubleshooting ideas? I imagine it's the motor, it's alwats been slower than the passenger side and recently has been a little on and off about working. Both front windows run off one fuse right?

Also is it an MOT fail to have a driver side window not able to open because of this?

If it was running slow, and now has stopped altogether, chances are that it's now burnt out and will need replacing  :sad: You could detach the window from the mech, and try running the mech on its own - if it's still working it should move okay without the weight of the window. I guess there's also a chance that there's a broken wire somewhere, so check that power is getting to the motor.

If the mech is still working, grease up the runner, and ensure that the window moves up and down in a straight line (no tilting/slanting under operation). There are some nuts in there iirc which allow you to adjust the angle at which the window operates on the runner, however it could be that the plastic guides on the runner have worn.
Title: Re: Electric Windows
Post by: Brads MK2 GTI on 25 November 2009, 14:06
Cheers fella, will give this ago soon enough! Like you say, likely to be the motor knackered though :(

Anyone any idea of the MOT question?
Title: Re: Electric Windows
Post by: dubber36 on 25 November 2009, 15:10
Personally, I'd convert to manual windows.

I had considered fitting electric windows to mine, but as most original motors are going to be at least 20 years old, and many pattern parts are unreliable, I decided to leave it as it was. I even had a problem with my drivers door manual window earlier in the year, but a complete door off ebay for £10, 15 mins of screwdriver and spanner work and the job was done.
Title: Re: Electric Windows
Post by: tony_ack on 25 November 2009, 16:35
I don't think it's an MOT failure, but don't quote me on that.

It will be a pain in the arse though when using car parks and drive-thrus  :smiley:


I agree re. most pattern parts being unreliable (from experience) but I can also vouch that the Dubber's motors are top quality (also from experience).

If you do convert to manual, make sure you do it properly - nothing says 'can't be bothered' more than manual winders and electric switches in the centre console
Title: Re: Electric Windows
Post by: dadrathers on 25 November 2009, 21:46
I did the opposite of Dubber36 and converted from manual to electric - using all good stuff including Dubbers motors and mechs. Much better than the hand windy things. Only issue I have had is that the driver's window now whistles (might have done before but don't remember) - and can't see anything obvious why - hmmph!