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Title: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: Jay on 18 November 2009, 10:28
Reet, as I'm looking for a newer car with big boot the wife and I are looking @ Bora's.

I've seen a nice Bora with over 170,000 miles for only £2.5k.

1.) I think this is a fair price for a 130PD, am I correct?
2.) What sort of things start breaking at this high mileage?
3.) Would a high mileage PD handle a remap?
4.) Should I look @ lower mileage engines or are these really bullet proof?
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: Horney on 18 November 2009, 10:36
My Dad paid £2.7K for a 120,000 miler a year ago but I think he got a bargain.

I'd steer clear of a remap though unless it's had a new uprated clutch recently as a remap will cook an old one very quickly and they cost near enough £1K to replace!

A good service history is important as they are fussy about what oil is used in them.

Nick
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: JC on 18 November 2009, 10:40
jay, let me know your budget and requirements, i will source you a decent motor, Ben now drives a passat i highlighted to him,  :cool:


cos last time you didnt listen and bougth the FRONTERROR  :grin: :laugh:
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: Len on 18 November 2009, 10:45
If you want a big boot then buy a Passat! Its huuuuge!
Plus more common than a Bora so easier to get spares and tuning/styling parts.
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: Horney on 18 November 2009, 10:53
If you want a big boot then buy a Passat! Its huuuuge!
Plus more common than a Bora so easier to get spares and tuning/styling parts.

Last time I checked Jay wasn't 50+ ha ha.

Bora is an awesome car. All the great bits of the MKIV Golf in a better looking body with more space for less money.

My Dad's had 2 PD 130 Sports and he rates them amongst the best cars he has ever owned. Praise indeed from a man who's had a Lotus Elan S2, A lotus Cortina MKI, an Alfasud Ti, A Saab 900 Turbo Carlsson, a Alfa 155 Cloverleaf, a MKIII Golf VR6, Citreon BX19 GTI 16v, Jag X typre 2.0 TD, MG Badged Rover 75 TD (can never remember what they're called!) etc etc.

Nick
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: Wayne on 18 November 2009, 11:05
If you want a big boot then buy a Passat! Its huuuuge!
Plus more common than a Bora so easier to get spares and tuning/styling parts.

Last time I checked Jay wasn't 50+ ha ha.

Bora is an awesome car. All the great bits of the MKIV Golf in a better looking body with more space for less money.

My Dad's had 2 PD 130 Sports and he rates them amongst the best cars he has ever owned. Praise indeed from a man who's had a Lotus Elan S2, A lotus Cortina MKI, an Alfasud Ti, A Saab 900 Turbo Carlsson, a Alfa 155 Cloverleaf, a MKIII Golf VR6, Citreon BX19 GTI 16v, Jag X typre 2.0 TD, MG Badged Rover 75 TD (can never remember what they're called!) etc etc.

Nick

MG ZT
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: topher on 18 November 2009, 11:10
turbo, cam, boost hoses, intercooler (hi rhys!), clutch, engine mounts, bushes as well as the usual array of fiddly sensors that go wrong are likely to fail on you unless they've been replaced recently.. and thats without even touching it with a remap.

Your 2.5k car could easily end up costing you 4k upwards in total if it's a lemon. Proceed with caution and get it checked out properly before you hand over any cash.
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: Jay on 18 November 2009, 11:21
jay, let me know your budget and requirements, i will source you a decent motor, Ben now drives a passat i highlighted to him,  :cool:


cos last time you didnt listen and bougth the FRONTERROR  :grin: :laugh:

It was £7k, but we've decided to be a bit more sensible and go for £2-£5k now, needs LOADS of space so a saloon/Estate/Sharan'esque(Zafira?).

I was going to get a 2006 Jetta, but we've changed our price range.
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: topher on 18 November 2009, 11:27
you can get a b5.5 passat estate for that money.. Ben's absolutely dwarfs my mk4 estate.

(http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~dv8r/golf/estate/pst/droppppped.jpg)
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: Mew on 18 November 2009, 11:33
Whatever you get, try 2 baby seats and a child in the back first :wink: They only just squeeze into the back of a scenic...
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: T_J_G on 18 November 2009, 11:35
http://pistonheads.com/sales/1333207.htm
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: Jay on 18 November 2009, 11:52
Whatever you get, try 2 baby seats and a child in the back first :wink: They only just squeeze into the back of a scenic...

Yup will do, 1 of the spec's I want is ISOfix Anchors, anyone know if they come with 2 fixtures or 1 ?

I wanted a 5.5 Passat but the wife says they look like Grandad's cars  :laugh: Showed her a Silver Bora (after she saw a black one and liked it) and said ewww no that's ugly and grandadish...  :rolleyes:  :grin:
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: Mew on 18 November 2009, 12:34
A 53plate A3 has 2 isofix anchors, so i'd assume similar aged VWs do :undecided:
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: Len on 18 November 2009, 14:15
Go on UK Passats and show her some of the cars on there!
Plus ben's of course!
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: Jay on 18 November 2009, 14:36
ermm... after having a lowered Golf (-80mm) she WON'T want another lowered car, especially when she starts to drive.  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: Len on 18 November 2009, 15:43
Only need to do a Passat 40mm and it looks a lot better!
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: Jay on 18 November 2009, 17:45
Only need to do a Passat 40mm and it looks a lot better!

I don't think you're understanding the needs for the car... family car = standard suspension.
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: alex160 on 18 November 2009, 19:14
My brother just picked up a 2000 reg bora, black, 46,000 miles, fsh ect for 2k. There are bargains out there, just got to be patient and look around. Is only the 115bhp TDi but still a bargain imo.
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: JC on 19 November 2009, 09:29
If you want a big boot then buy a Passat! Its huuuuge!
Plus more common than a Bora so easier to get spares and tuning/styling parts.

Last time I checked Jay wasn't 50+ ha ha.

Bora is an awesome car. All the great bits of the MKIV Golf in a better looking body with more space for less money.

My Dad's had 2 PD 130 Sports and he rates them amongst the best cars he has ever owned. Praise indeed from a man who's had a Lotus Elan S2, A lotus Cortina MKI, an Alfasud Ti, A Saab 900 Turbo Carlsson, a Alfa 155 Cloverleaf, a MKIII Golf VR6, Citreon BX19 GTI 16v, Jag X typre 2.0 TD, MG Badged Rover 75 TD (can never remember what they're called!) etc etc.

Nick

so how old is your dad then nick  :grin:

http://pistonheads.com/sales/1333207.htm

a lot of motor for ya cash :afro:

jay, let me know your budget and requirements, i will source you a decent motor, Ben now drives a passat i highlighted to him,  :cool:


cos last time you didnt listen and bougth the FRONTERROR  :grin: :laugh:

It was £7k, but we've decided to be a bit more sensible and go for £2-£5k now, needs LOADS of space so a saloon/Estate/Sharan'esque(Zafira?).

I was going to get a 2006 Jetta, but we've changed our price range.

5k will get you a LOT of motor.

Diesel ?

Estate is a LOT more practical til you mentioned the wife learning to drive  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: Jay on 19 November 2009, 10:18
Oh too add to the PM Chuff, she DOESN'T want to learn to drive now...  :rolleyes:

Pregnant woman eh?
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: JC on 19 November 2009, 10:21
 :grin: bonus  :laugh:
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: JC on 19 November 2009, 10:35
all boxes ticked jay

big boot

2003

under 3k

sorted :afro:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/200947346368923/sort/priceasc/usedcars/make/skoda/model/octavia/price-from/2000/price-to/4000/postcode/ox106ug/radius/1500/page/9?logcode=pp
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: Jay on 19 November 2009, 11:00
Just need to find a way to hide the insurance prem. from her  :evil:  (£777)

It's a VERY nice car :cool:
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: JC on 19 November 2009, 11:11
 :wink:
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: Len on 19 November 2009, 11:16
Octavia = Passat  :lipsrsealed:



Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: Jay on 19 November 2009, 11:22
Octavia = Passat  :lipsrsealed:

Don't tell her that!  :grin:
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: JC on 19 November 2009, 11:27
Octavia = Passat  :lipsrsealed:

Don't tell her that!  :grin:

and you cant get a hatchback passat (b5 ) len  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: Mew on 19 November 2009, 11:41
Octavia = Passat  :lipsrsealed:





No. Octavia = Golf. Superb = Passat
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: Mew on 19 November 2009, 11:51
Whilst on the Skoda theme, they do a 4x4 1.8t estate, i think it comes with the AUM so should be interesting after a remap :wink:
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: JC on 19 November 2009, 12:53
Whilst on the Skoda theme, they do a 4x4 1.8t estate, i think it comes with the AUM so should be interesting after a remap :wink:

be good for jay to take swiming then  :huh:



 :grin:



 :tongue:
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: Len on 19 November 2009, 13:09
never knew Octavia was hatchback!  :embarassed:

I still say a Passat is best for Jay. Why does it have to be a hatch? Passat seats fold down.

And for 3k you could get a 2300 B5.5, Billy paid less than that for his.
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: Mew on 19 November 2009, 13:20
Whilst on the Skoda theme, they do a 4x4 1.8t estate, i think it comes with the AUM so should be interesting after a remap :wink:

be good for jay to take swiming then  :huh:



 :grin:



 :tongue:

More importantly, check this sh!t:

http://www.pistonheads.tv/clip1121
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: Jay on 19 November 2009, 15:10
Right fella's find me a 4x4 Skoda wagon  :evil:
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: JC on 19 November 2009, 15:40
Right fella's find me a 4x4 Skoda wagon  :evil:

there is 2 on autotrader  :wink:
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: dai-cymru on 19 November 2009, 17:02
JUst bought a octavia estate TDI 2003, 174k for £600 (did need a clutch though)  2.5k for a bora with that mileage seems way to steep
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: Jay on 19 November 2009, 20:22
Focus C-Max 2.0DCTIDCTITDCI²   makes a strong contestant...  :lipsrsealed:

I want to keep VAG (MK4 based) but the C-Max makes sense on so many levels...  :undecided:

I'll keep looking for derv 130PD's (Octavia, MK4 Wagons etc...)
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: JC on 19 November 2009, 20:24
can you do a c max with your budget  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: 170,000+ Mile Bora 130 PD
Post by: Jay on 20 November 2009, 02:46
can you do a c max with your budget  :lipsrsealed:

Yeah  :lipsrsealed: Admittedly the older (2003/2004) Focus C-MAX and not the new (only) C-MAX.
ALOT of car for the money and 9.6s 0-62 with the 2.0TDI  :cool: So not slow either.