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Model specific boards => Golf mk1 => Topic started by: Guy on 08 November 2009, 22:18
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so its been raining a bit recently...
and I go to use the cabby the other day and wonder why the windows are very misty and the mats have a bit of water on them...
then I look a bit closer and see this...
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3206/4087490574_3e54e4e79e.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2672/4087493786_f26860362e.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2613/4087496270_45af1fd650.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2765/4086742013_abdf1e587c.jpg)
it was like this both front and rear, passenger and driver side :sad:
so took the seats out and set to work with george
as you can see the amount of water extracted was significant...
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2604/4087501320_81c1c2ced3.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2742/4086746657_b9c46dd83b.jpg)
there was nearly twice this amount!!
standing water all extracted
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2435/4086749305_a4cc3602e4.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2718/4086751857_7c60553634.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2656/4086754759_7091a288e8.jpg)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2501/4086757505_e09bb2a140.jpg (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2501/4086757505_e09bb2a140.jpg)
i don't want this thread to be about the extraction or the cleaning as such... i'm pissed off after the two days i spent on the carpet only a couple of months ago... but I wanted to know possible water leak sources
I found a blocked drainage grommet in the scuttle panel... but the top of the front carpet doesn't appear to be wet... the carpet (both front and back) was only wet along the bottom... although the passenger footwell had some that was a bit higher
there are two rips in the hood which don't appear to have leaked much/at all... the rear shelf and the boot are both dry (bit damp but that is to be expected after the amount of water that has been in the car) and if these were the sources of the leak I would expect the surrounding area to have signs of water damage and there isn't
so... apart from the hood... and the blocked grommit in the scuttle - is there anywhere else that I should be checked for sources of water ingress?
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thats sucks abit, considering all the work you put into getting them clean :sad:
Good to see you got it all cleaned up tho, hope you find where the leak is coming from :afro:
Dan
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water could be getting in between the hood seals and the hood ie seeping thru , water will then drip down and depending where the drip is may miss the seats altogether
get some vasaline and run a thick bead along the top of the hood seal where it meets the roof put loads in there and then run your finger along like you would when you use silicone sealant and wipe off excess also wipe over the seal themselves and wipe off.
then put more vasaline around the front hood seal where it meets the top of the door A pillar
i think water can also get in if the drain holes in the doors and sills are blocked as water will run down inside of door/ rear quarter glass
mine leaked at top of A pillar and between hood seal and roof and this solved it next time its p*ssing down sit in car and watch for leaks
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thanks dan - was gutted but it just means that i'll have to do it again properly at some point... fortunately I hadn't fitted new underlay yet!
thanks raferackstraw - where are the drain holes in the doors and sills pls?
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take the doorcards off, make sure the plastic membranes behind them are sealed to the door fully. if not this is what you'll get! i doubt the hood and roof seals would lead to this much water getting in, mine leaked pretty badly from both front seals but it was never this bad, just have a bit of a damp floormat and seat.
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As above I would check the door membranes.
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the drain hole are at the back of the sills [an oblong hole] on the sides of the sills [again oblong but looks like it has a small shroud] and on the doors at the bottom of inner skin, if you have a haynes manual there is pics in the bodywork section
but as rj says it probably the membrane but what i pointed out will also ensure a dry cabin no matter what the weather
if you need new membrane hit b&q and look for builders plastic membrane or if your anywhere near north london sometime i have loads
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thanks guys... she's under a cover for tonight as I haven't had time to check as I have been working... however I will have a proper look tomorrow at the doorcard membranes and associated drainage holes and report back :wink:
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just check the bottom the door cards, i
f they are dry then i would say your membranes are ok ,
if they are soaked ( they would have to be seeing how much wet stuff there ) then look deeper :undecided:
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just check the bottom the door cards, i
f they are dry then i would say your membranes are ok ,
if they are soaked ( they would have to be seeing how much wet stuff there ) then look deeper :undecided:
i have done... but want to double check... the door cards come off in about 3.4 nano seconds anyway... i might just double bag it to be certain
i am not sure but i have a feeling the water ingress might be from the seal at the front of the car where the roof meets the crossmember on top of the windscreen... i might try and tighten the seal up a bit using the handle adjusters and then seal with vaseline/wax for winter
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bring it round next time your free,
i will willing SOAK the car with the hosepipe whilist your sit inside :wink:
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bring it round next time your free,
i will willing SOAK the car with the hosepipe whilist your sit inside :wink:
i can imagine you taking great glee in that! :grin:
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here to help buddy, :afro:
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here to help buddy, :afro:
:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :laugh:
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here to help buddy, :afro:
:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :laugh:
i'll bring me wellies!! :grin:
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i would going by those piccies . . . .
just let me know when :afro:
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You call that a river? Should have seen the river running through mine yesterday :lipsrsealed: :sick: :embarassed:
Still got enough water in there to rival the lake district. Guy, I may need your services soon to sort the interior out.
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You call that a river? Should have seen the river running through mine yesterday :lipsrsealed: :sick: :embarassed:
Still got enough water in there to rival the lake district. Guy, I may need your services soon to sort the interior out.
picsor STFU :laugh:
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:grin:
Guy, when do you want to come up for my hosing services ?
:smug:
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:grin:
Guy, when do you want to come up for my hosing services ?
:smug:
ooh :huh:
when you free? :wink:
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any night after 5, but leak checking in the dark aint fun, well for you.
FRIDAY AVO,
satdee til 5 ish
sunday all day
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When I have been leak finding in the past I have had better results with a watering can and not a hose.
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any night after 5, but leak checking in the dark aint fun, well for you.
FRIDAY AVO,
satdee til 5 ish
sunday all day
ooh this ain't good..
more than likely working friday avo, satdee all day and rugby on sunday :sad:
might have to do a nightshift!!
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lunchtime is 12 til 1 :wink: that can be extended a tad either side if required :tongue:
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lunchtime is 12 til 1 :wink: that can be extended a tad either side if required :tongue:
okey dokes... maybe tomorrow :afro:
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any news on the leak?
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any news on the leak?
haven't investigated this week... i might do tomorrow morning.. but at the moment it is all cosy under a cover and very grateful for it... it seems to be keeping the car very dry so at least the damage isn't getting any worse, the carpet is still taking time to dry out though :undecided:
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nasty!
car cover, dehumidifier, new hood / gaffer tape. Job done.
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well... after investigashun and a bit of work from some peeps, including a very kind stay at chez chuffs for a week, the leak seems to have been stopped... the car is now undercover again and declared SORN for the winter :smiley:
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blinding :cool: although mine started to leak again between the roof and drivers roof seal mounting, sorted it with copious amounts of vasaline! along the join, i do have a full set of new roof seals but dont want to fit them until i can afford a new mohair roof