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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Gazdebaz on 08 November 2009, 20:04
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Has anyone else noticed the orange peel look of your paintwork.
If you look closely in bright sunlight or equally bright artificial light you notice this ripple effect. I did bring this up with the dealer when I first picked up the car. His answer was, this is common as it’s the way they paint the cars! I did notice the same effect on a metallic car in the show room.
Am I just being paranoid, but I thought in these days, with modern manufacturing techniques paintwork should be perfect.
From a short distance away the car looks really good when washed and waxed. But I know it’s there. Should I just ignore it?
Or am I just being to pernickety?
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VW paint is really terrible cf BMW.
Soft and chippy too.
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Unfortunately it is a "characteristic" of the VW paint. MKV owners have the same
issue/problem / Characteristic.
Not really excusable from VW though!
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Dont get me going on new VW paintwork :cry:
Mine too has the orange peel effect on some panels, seems very soft as well, easy to leave a mark.
Im just going be really carefull and try to forget about it :smiley:
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That's pants from a brand (at least in the UK\US) marketed on it's reputation as of a higher quality and more expensive than others.
Sounds daft but always thought it was ok, I can't remember off the top of my head, but I'm going to have a good look at my mk5 tomorrow and compare against my other non-vw car just out of interest!
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Not really excusable from VW though!
I take it's down to the manufacturing progress. I have an 8 year old SAAB and the paintwork was immaculate when I first got it and is still looking pretty good, even though being abused with automatic car washes etc.
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Nothing to do with quality what so ever. Zee Germans don't like flat mirror like paint finish so all their cars have a sligh torange peel finish to the paint.
My mate works at BMW Plant Oxford on the Minis doing refinish paint work on cars that are damage don the line. He gets told off if the paint work is too smooth and told to do it again.
If you want super flat glass like paint buy a Jap motor.
Nick
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VW paint is really terrible cf BMW.
Soft and chippy too.
A friend at work has just bought a 118i Msport in metallic blue and it has the worst case of orange peal i have ever seen. Simply shocking.
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Cheers guys, Just making sure that my car wasn't the only one.
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I have seen MK5's with "perfect" paint - presumably they have given them a good detailing to get rid of this orange peel?
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Orange peel is terrible when viewed close up
(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad28/p3asa1/orangepeel.jpg)
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I see loads of new cars with poor finishes. You really do not get the finish from a robot.
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All my VW's back to 1989 have had orange peel. I think all mass-production cars will have at least some orange peel as it's really not easy (if not impossible) to get a perfect finish 'out of the gun'. Perfect mirror finishes will have all been fettled by hand.
Must admit I've never looked that closely at a Japanese car though.
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i like orange peel.
p.s. best part of the orange too :grin:
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The orange peel comes from the electrophoretic dip the cars first receive in the painting process. The amount of paint is controlled by the current applied to the shell through the carrier, and different metals react differently to this. So bodies with aluminium sections, galvanised sections and mild steel sectiosn react very differently. The higher the current the more paint is applied, but orange peel takes over then. In some ways orange peel is good. !
Some of the orange peel is reduced by the primer coat as this acts as a slight paint leveller, but can't cope entirely. Then the colour coat follows the primer surface and the clearcoat follows on again.
I've seen some pretty exotic motors wet samded to remove orange peel (Rolls Royces included). You need a heck of a thick clearcoat to remove orange peel these days, normally only the multiple layers of a Bentley/Roller etc have sufficient thickness to fully remove it. Wet sanding thinner paint films results in breakthough of the clearcoat and a respray :(
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And now all apints are water based they are a lot softer than the old solvent systems of old - i dropped an angle grinder on the bonnet of a Volvo 240 years ago and barely marked the paint. I had an old Saab 900 as a run around a few years back and there were barely any chips on it after 13 years on the road.
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i dropped an angle grinder on the bonnet of a Volvo 240 years ago
That's a long time ago :grin:
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i dropped an angle grinder on the bonnet of a Volvo 240 years ago
That's a long time ago :grin:
ah, don't make 'em like they used too :grin:
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its the model of the volvo... 240 and not how many years... :sick:
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its the model of the volvo... 240 and not how many years... :sick:
Oh I thought that was funny!! :laugh: :laugh:
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its the model of the volvo... 240 and not how many years... :sick:
Whooooosh!!
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A 240? Got to ask, was it light brown?
Had a look at my MK5 Golf today (Solid Black), can't see any vidence of orange peel paint work, the only think I can see is very fine swirls (like brushed metal). Looks good to me.
Was tricky compairing against my other car which is metalic silver and looks mirror perfect to the eye (but that could just be me).
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Light blue actually, and it wasnt mine !!
Some cars are better than others for orange peel - the age, temperature, 'strength' of the paint bath all influence the surface amongst other parameters.