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General => The garage => Topic started by: AudiA8Quattro on 08 November 2009, 18:07
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I'm after a new battery powered impact gun.
I've got a budget of about £300-350, any suggestions from anyone?
Thanks in advance :smiley:
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Not 100% on price i've got a new Snap On battery gun at work they're mint with the slide on battery dont bother with the clip on ones they break easily
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I think the snap on is about £450.
That would be my number one choice. However they don't seem that easy to get hold of, and its a bit over budget.
Is there any good alternatives?
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makita
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MOST-POWERFUL-1-2-Battery-Impact-Wrench-Nut-Gun-540Nm_W0QQitemZ310178215092QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Hand_Tools_Equipment?hash=item48380ff4b4
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/REBCO-PIT-IMPACT-GUN-BATTERY-CHARGER-320-5100-NEW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3348529d0fQQitemZ220256705807QQptZRaceQ5fCarQ5fParts
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or proper kit
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Makita-BTW450RFE-Cordless-18V-Impact-Wrench-BTW-450-NEW_W0QQitemZ130342920284QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM?hash=item1e590b205c
or cheeper and less pokey
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Makita-BTW-251-Lithium-Ion-Impact-Wrench-BTW251-Body_W0QQitemZ260503500517QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM?hash=item3ca737f6e5
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Thanks for all the replies.
I was looking at the serenco powerhand wrench, but i found a review that claimed those wrenches are not producing the claimed torque.
This is the problem, plenty of makes claim big performance, but most sadly live up to it.
Danny_P, do the makita tools match claimed performance figures? i take it you are recommending them from your own experience.
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Are these any good?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Milwaukee-2662-22-M18-Cordless-1-2-Impact-Wrench-Pin_W0QQitemZ370273716786QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5636088a32
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have a lot of makita stuff here :)
tbh for what it is it's bloody cheep if you buy the tools bare, the batterys are expensive £55 a pop but been lithium ion there worth it. all my cordless kit makita stuff is 18v LXT stuff. the batteries are seriously good comapred to most ( battery seem to let most kit down ) i like that they charge bloody quick and give all the grunt to the last few moment then they stop, unlip nicads and nicel metal that just limp on for gages in a half arsed manner. hence i offloaded all my dewalt kit about 2 weeks after buying first makita
i got one of the bigger inpacters ether the btw450 or it predicessor . never measured it's actual torque but it i enough and it pisses overe the cheep air ones and holds it's own with the better air ones. only problem is every bugger keeps on borrowing it. the other reason i have so much time for makita is warranty and service if you kill it lob it back to the dealer you got it from or just send it back to them and tell them you killed it few days later it actualy comes back mended, and if you need a pissy littel part for it you can get it.
was well inpresed with mine. it's taken a right beating in the last year and done a lot of work and its still going strong.
milawakiee are soposed to be as good if not better than makita ( by reputation or at least that was the case ) but not got any or used any of that sort of there stuff
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Thanks for the response Danny.
I was looking at a dewalt, i guess that's out the window then!
The makita looks good, but i do fancy the milwaukee, its cheaper and apparently more powerful?
450lb ft does sound a bit optimistic though.
What should i look for? battery amps or voltage?
The other one i like the look of http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Milwaukee-V28-IW-Impact-Wrench-Nut-Runner-BNIB-RRP-509_W0QQitemZ320445009859QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM?hash=item4a9c02cfc3
what do you think?
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batterys are a funny one. i go off the actual energy stored. and it's charge time.
eg makita. 18v 3AH 18 x 3 = 54 watt hours. thats how much actual energy is stored in the battery. but the batterys ablity to deliver that power is just as inportant. general rule for all batterys is the faster it can be safely charged the more current it is capable of supplying.
the makita will charge in 22 mins ( it pulls in about 9 AMPS ) so it can safely absorb power at a rate of 162 watt's per hour, guestimation say it should be abel to supply at about twice that rate so it proably has the potential to run a 250-300 w motor. thats what really matters. big motors are cheep and easy to make. makeing light compact batterys to run them isn't. and none of the manufactures tell you anythign about the ablity of there batterys to give power.
but as a general rule of thumb. you want 18v or more. 2-3 AH at 18v is fine. as voltage goes up you dont need as meany AH ( volts x amp hours for stored energy ) YOU WANT LITHIUM BATTERYS THEY ARE SERIOUSLY WORTH THE MONEY. they charge fast, they have long service life and no memory effect ,(you can top up half full batterys or take off and use before theyve finished charging without knackering them)
the milawakie job also looks a bloody good bit of kit, and a 28v li ion battery will give some serious punch prob more than the makita ones
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I have a Snap-On 12v impact gun and never found it lacking...it's a superb piece of kit.
Can't vouch for the rest, as I've only used the Snap-On one...
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Ok, thanks for your input :smiley:
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if its any help i have a mac tools one 19.2 volt iirc had it nearly a yr now superb bit of kit never let me down and use it quite a bit
pretty sure i paid £340.00 for it 2 batterys and 1hr charge batterys last around 1hr of constanst use
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Cheers for that.
What i'm really interested in is if anything on the market performs as well as the snap on wrench.
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well i got the mac because it is a shade cheaper and is ament to be better than snap on eqevilant and that was recomended by the local bunch of mechanics most of there tools are mac tho but one is my dad so dont think he would say get it if wasnt true lol
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i may well be able to get you a good deal on a brand new snap on one with normal warranty etc if your interseted ?
i have had the snap on one for 2 yrs now and excellent bit of kit espec for using when banger racing !!
my mate (carpenter) has the dewalt one which has a bit more torque then the snap on one but your choice at end of the day .
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i have had the snap on one for 2 yrs now and excellent bit of kit espec for using when banger racing !!
that exactly why i got mine lol were abouts do u race m8
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I can get you a brand new snap on cordless impact gun half inch 18v for £326+vat which includes the gun , 2x18v batterys , smart charger and carry case and normal warranty etc !!!! the last discount price was £444+vat so these are well cheap and he only has 2 left !!! if you want one pm me and i will give you the snap on mans direct number :smiley:
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where do u stay mate? ive got one at work coming on sale soon..... cant remember the name (in a red case ...lol)
checked the price when i bought it in tho ( i work in a pawn shop ) rrp £349.99
coming on sale for £150, was interested myself but saving for MK4
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Thanks for the info, pm sent :smiley:
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Well i bought a snap on gun today, thanks to Lee(Snap on) for the contact.
Really appreciate it :smiley:
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Well i bought a snap on gun today, thanks to Lee(Snap on) for the contact.
Really appreciate it :smiley:
That's a quality piece of kit you've got. Nice one.
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Well i bought a snap on gun today, thanks to Lee(Snap on) for the contact.
Really appreciate it :smiley:
That thing is amazing. I use one all the time on the golf.
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Ess_Three and Adam, yes its a sh!t hot piece of kit, and i got it for under 400 quid.
Money extremely well spent! :smiley: