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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: AlanH on 04 November 2009, 10:44
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Had Fiscon fitted last weekend, and the fitter put the mic behind the square left-hand grill in the lighting console above the rear view mirror. Tidy and out of sight, but means the mic is pointing at the passenger seat rather than the driver seat. Consequently, audio quality for anyone I call isn't great at their end - lots of road noise and voice level low. Behind the right-hand grill would have been far better as the mic would point at the driver's seat, but that grill seems to be blocked off with something behind it. I'm wondering if the top of the A pillar would be a much better mic position. Anyone with Fiscon care to comment on audio quality and mic position? Thanks.
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Have mine on the A pillar.
Folk I have spoke to have commented on how clear it sounds and not like I am using a handsfree kit.
I'm positive I read somewhere that, it was recommended not to put the mic in the place you are describing for the exact reasons you have given. Although I am sure it came from Fiscon themselves but obviously not.
(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad28/p3asa1/IMG_3312.jpg)
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Thanks for that, and thanks for the pic too. I'm sure the mic's fairly directional, and if it's not pointing at the driver then it's going to struggle to provide decent audio quality. Looks like a trip to get the mic repositioned.
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There is an option to increase the gain the mic has. Have you tried that? Although it will just pick up more road noise as well.
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Yes, saw that, but as you say increasing the mic gain will also pull up the background noise. Repositioning is looking likely!
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where does the factory mic go? wouldn't it make sense to put it there too?
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I have my mic up behind the rear view mirror. Sound is perfect. You can run the wire in behind the fabric which runs along the glass there.
p3asa, worth nothing you may be in danger where you have it of obstructing the airbag if it goes off, but it may not be that big an issue, just worth mentioning. I will post photos later of where I have it once I get home.
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You are in danger where you have it of obstructing the airbag if it goes off. I will post photos later once I get home.
Yeah that is true but I gathered the airbag in the wheel would do its trick rather than the one in the A pillar. What is that for anyway? With the seatbelt on, I can't imagine you would need an airbag a way up there!!
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where does the factory mic go? wouldn't it make sense to put it there too?
exactly where the OP has it located now although it should be on the drivers side rather than the passenger side
You can swap the position easily enough - the light fitting should pop out :smiley:
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where does the factory mic go? wouldn't it make sense to put it there too?
I've put car kit mic's in the factory position before and it's always a poor result. If I recall the OE microphone has associated parts with it that insulate it against the wind/road noise which you get inside the console. I was going to find out if the VW mic was compatible or try using some audio sound deadening material but never got round to it. My mic is behind the mirror too and works fine.
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You are in danger where you have it of obstructing the airbag if it goes off. I will post photos later once I get home.
Yeah that is true but I gathered the airbag in the wheel would do its trick rather than the one in the A pillar. What is that for anyway? With the seatbelt on, I can't imagine you would need an airbag a way up there!!
I would say if the car was in a big enough accident, the pillar could be pushed / crushed toward the driver. If the car rolled it could hit the driver.
Where does everyone have their mics?
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where does the factory mic go? wouldn't it make sense to put it there too?
exactly where the OP has it located now although it should be on the drivers side rather than the passenger side
You can swap the position easily enough - the light fitting should pop out :smiley:
Looking at the right hand grill (driver's side), it seems to be either solid, or has a blanking panel behind it - in other words I can't see through it.
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where does the factory mic go? wouldn't it make sense to put it there too?
exactly where the OP has it located now although it should be on the drivers side rather than the passenger side
You can swap the position easily enough - the light fitting should pop out :smiley:
Looking at the right hand grill (driver's side), it seems to be either solid, or has a blanking panel behind it - in other words I can't see through it.
only assuming here but its normally a bit of foam in that position - should be able to remove it :smiley:
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You are in danger where you have it of obstructing the airbag if it goes off. I will post photos later once I get home.
Yeah that is true but I gathered the airbag in the wheel would do its trick rather than the one in the A pillar. What is that for anyway? With the seatbelt on, I can't imagine you would need an airbag a way up there!!
Isn't it part of the curtain airbag system? so if your in a side impact it should minimise damage to your face from the other cars bonnet! even if it did go of with the mic up there i don't think it would make much difference if the mic hit you in the head! :grin:
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Sure it's not some kind of secret VW webcam so that all of Volkswagen can monitor my driving technique and have a laugh at my expense? :grin:
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My MK5 had foam in that bit! Thats where I fitted my Mic when I put my hands free in.
People always commented on how clear I sounded :tongue:
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I would say if the car was in a big enough accident, the pillar could be pushed / crushed toward the driver. If the car rolled it could hit the driver.
If I was in that big an accident, I doubt an airbag would help me :grin:
Alan if you move yours and the sound is vastly improved, let me know and I'll move mine into the same position.
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Going back in on Saturday to have the mic moved. I'll report back on any improvements.
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check out http://fiscon-mobile.com/products/mic.php it's about fitting it in the factory position by the light. To stop background noise they recommended to cut the plastic case around the mic, opening it up. Then get a piece of soft foam, cut a slit and feed the mic through so the mic sits shrouded by the foam.
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Interesting link and "how to" guide there.
Although they do recommend
"For optimal voice quality and lowest installation cost, we recommend the position at the top left corner of the windshield. If an invisible installation is preferred, the microphone can, under certain circumstances, be installed in the interior overhead light. There are additional steps needed for this option, detailed below.
When the microphone is properly fitted, a very good sound quality can be achieved. We guarantee the best sound quality but only when the microphone is fitted in a visible location. "
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Had the mic repositioned yesterday. It now sits at the top of the windscreen, midway between the left side of the driver's sun visor and the mirror housing, and the sound quality is noticeably better. Thought I'd try a little mic gain. Went into the Setup menu > Microphone. That brings up the heading "Volume Phone", but it's not clear if this is the gain setting. If it is, then the only way to adjust it is by the volume buttons on the left side of the steering wheel. Seems a little random, and a decent Fiscon User's manual would help a lot.