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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: VWKev on 31 October 2009, 02:25

Title: ESP
Post by: VWKev on 31 October 2009, 02:25
Do you drive with it on or off ?
Title: Re: ESP
Post by: Rolfe on 31 October 2009, 02:31
My dealer said don't switch it off unless you want the car skidding around all over the road.  So what's it for really, I wonder.  Did somebody say transportation or towing?

How do you know it's on anyway?  I don't think the switch changes when you press it.

Rolfe.
Title: Re: ESP
Post by: VWKev on 31 October 2009, 02:33
My dealer said don't switch it off unless you want the car skidding around all over the road.  So what's it for really, I wonder.  Did somebody say transportation or towing?

How do you know it's on anyway?  I don't think the switch changes when you press it.

Rolfe.

Does it not light up Rolfe ? I thought it did. Mind you my ACC button is right next to it so maybe I'm getting mixed up with that one lighting up.
Title: Re: ESP
Post by: ub7rm on 31 October 2009, 07:12
Leave it on, say if you have to swerve at high speed, without ESP the back end of the car might step out and you could end up spinning or going sideways.  ESP detects this and will brake each wheel individually to keep the car pointing in the right direction.

See here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTe3s1tQA4w

There used to be a little animation on the vw website which showed how it worked a lot better but I can't find it.  Only turn it off if say you cant get any traction in the snow and the ESP keeps cutting the power (despite the american man's opinion) or you're on a track and want some drifting action.

To turn it off on the mkv you have to keep the button pressed for a second or two then the light comes up on the dash and OFF appears on the button itself - I would imagine its the same on the mkvi.  If you see the light flashing up now and again on the dash it means the ESP has kicked in and is doing something.
Title: Re: ESP
Post by: AlanH on 31 October 2009, 07:14
ESP = Electronic Stabilisation Programme.

"By counteracting any tendency towards understeer or oversteer, ESP stabilises the dynamic handling response of the car. It constantly compares the actual movement of the vehicle with predetermined values and, according to the situation, reacts by braking the outer front or inner rear wheel and automatically adjusting the engine’s output. This is especially useful on wet or icy surfaces. The system works in conjunction with the existing ABS and EBD systems."

I leave it on. When turned off, a warning light appears in the instrument cluster.
Title: Re: ESP
Post by: simonpolly on 31 October 2009, 10:10
The only time i`ve seen that they advice you that you may benefit from turning it off is in deep snow.
Title: Re: ESP
Post by: keelaw on 31 October 2009, 11:39
if you have to swerve at high speed, without ESP the back end of the car might step out and you could .... going sideways


like you say, sounds like fun on the track   :grin:

Title: Re: ESP
Post by: keelaw on 31 October 2009, 11:44

But to answer the original question, I leave it on.

Title: Re: ESP
Post by: jdjd on 31 October 2009, 12:08
For a Straight line race off the lights, I turn it off, f**k Electronic interference,
Title: Re: ESP
Post by: mac7 on 31 October 2009, 12:09
It's an aid to safety - I leave it switched on. If I was to be out on a track having fun, then I'd switch it off (or as mentioned perhaps when starting in snow). However even if it is switch it off, it isn't completely disabled and will still try to interfere with any lift-off oversteer cornering antics.

Of course it won't over-ride the laws of physics, but it does help keep the car better balanced when the roads are a bit slippery, or you have to make a sudden steering input to avoid a collision. I'd say that a modern GTI would keep you out of trouble in the majority of unexpected 'moments' even without ESP. Having said that, in a slide every little helps - we all make mistakes after all.
Title: Re: ESP
Post by: R32UK on 31 October 2009, 15:29
If you want to see how much the esp is working in everyday conditions try turn in off and floor it in 3rd in the wet :laugh: :laugh:

and look out for major understeer :huh:
Title: Re: ESP
Post by: p3asa on 01 November 2009, 21:57
When you put this off, there is a graphic of a yellow car skidding, flashing on the instrument cluster.

By default though, ESP comes on every time you start the car. You have to manually switch it off every drive. At least that's what happens on mine!!