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Title: leather - hard work?
Post by: James Gould on 28 October 2009, 18:16
does a lot of work have to go into keeping the Mark VI leather in good condition? I've never had a Golf Gti and like the cloth because it relates to the character of the car but the leather does give a lux finish  -  got kids and, yes, leather can be wiped clean but can also get ripped  -  I can never even be bothered to clean cars so if I'd have to do even more work keeping the leather in good condition, it'll be cloth for me. Thanking you in anticipation of your comments....
Title: Re: leather - hard work?
Post by: davoaj on 28 October 2009, 18:27
Evening mate!

Mine is a MkV but I went with the cloth on the basis that it felt a bit more authentic as a GTI and it held you in your seat a bit better when giving it a bit of stick. But that comes down to personal taste.

With regard to caring for the leather, I know that the leather in the MkV tended to wear quite easily, especially on the seat bolsters. Indeed, this seems to be a common problem for a lot of VAG cars, the mkII TT really suffers with it.

Not sure what the MkVI guys have found so far, but then they may not have had theirs long enough to get any issues with the leather as yet.

Title: Re: leather - hard work?
Post by: James Gould on 28 October 2009, 18:38

Thanks, pal  -  've read that the Mark IV leather was better quality than the Mark V leather and as part of the job remit of the Mark VI developers was 'keep the costs down', I don't suppose the leather has improved since the Mark V  -  that said, I also read that the quality of the Mark VI interior is an improvement on what was a great Mark V interior so maybe the savings have gone into other parts of the new car  -  but I do agree with you...authenticy means go for the cloth.
Title: Re: leather - hard work?
Post by: FamilyDub on 28 October 2009, 18:41
authenticy means go for the cloth.

Personal preferance, matey.

I like the 'nod-to-the-MKI' effect of the tartan... cloth for me! :afro:
Title: Re: leather - hard work?
Post by: Ivan on 28 October 2009, 19:02
I got leather on my mk5 and I am not that impressed after three years of use for a number of reasons, so have gone for cloth this time.  Standard cloth does look good in this car :smiley:
Title: Re: leather - hard work?
Post by: matchboy on 28 October 2009, 19:14
had the leather on my mk5 gti for nearly 3 years - no issues whatsoever, a marked improvement on the mk4 v5 leather.  had the mk6 for nearly 2 months, obviously no issues yet but if its supposed to be better than the mk5 then it'll be v good!  plus it looks better than the cloth  :smiley:
Title: Re: leather - hard work?
Post by: Gazdebaz on 28 October 2009, 19:30
authenticy means go for the cloth.

I like the 'nod-to-the-MKI' effect of the tartan... cloth for me! :afro:
As above, could have been tempted with the leather if there was a light colour available, not so keen on the black. Plus I actually think the cloth seats are more comfortable.
Title: Re: leather - hard work?
Post by: ub7rm on 28 October 2009, 20:22
I had a mk4 with the proper recarro leather seats.  I parted ways with that car after about 90k and the leather was like new.

My Mk5 has 40k miles and although its not in terrible shape there are obvious lines and light scuffing around the bolsters and a small scratch on the passenger seat.  It is no where near the quality of those recarros.

If I were buying a mk6 tomorrow I would spec the cloth with winter pack.  The leather does give it a more premium look but all things considered I'd just stick with the cloth.

Freezing in the winter and sticky in the summer and I'm getting fed up with it.  Bling though...
Title: Re: leather - hard work?
Post by: VWKev on 28 October 2009, 20:43
Well I've not had my car long, but so far so good. I have a leather cleaner/conditioner to keep it in good condition so I hope with the right care it will look good and last.

It also add's a touch of class to an already superb interior. Yes the standard cloth seats are good, but not a patch on the leather.
Title: Re: leather - hard work?
Post by: GolfTi on 28 October 2009, 21:45
Had leather in my mk5, easy to clean and you should use leather conditioner now and again.

I have cloth in my mk6 and do find it much better, not as cold in the winter (heated seats still take a minute or two on a cold morning) and not as sweaty in the summer (can be really hot to the touch if wearing shorts). The cloth seems to hold you in position better and also is a constant reminder to me of my old Mk1.

The leather looks classy and smells nice, I had no problems looking after it in my mk5.
 
I just prefer the cloth but if you go for leather it should be relatively hassle free.
Title: Re: leather - hard work?
Post by: Rolfe on 28 October 2009, 22:10
I had leather in my Peugeot, and it was very hardwearing indeed.  I loved it.  I only noticed the driver's seat had split at one side about a week before I picked up the Golf.  That was 120,000 miles by the way.  And all I ever did was brush the crumbs off it.

I originally wanted leather in the Golf, for sure, but somehow the appearance of the leather in the demo car didn't exude luxury the way I'd have expected for that price.  And people here started saying stuff like the above.  And the second dealer I went to (the one I bought from) was a cloth fan, and explained about the nod to the MkI, and I liked what I saw.

Decided I really couldn't see that the leather was worth £1700 more than the cloth, to me.

Spent the budget on the DSG instead.

Don't regret a thing.

However, only time will tell how well the seats wear.  I suppose if they do get tired, a car valet with a steam cleaner will bring them up.  I had that done to my old Fiesta when the cat had been sick on it and the driver's seat was covered in pony hair and scurf, and I was amazed at how good they looked.

Rolfe.
Title: Re: leather - hard work?
Post by: DDRFan on 29 October 2009, 01:31
authenticy means go for the cloth.

Personal preferance, matey.

I like the 'nod-to-the-MKI' effect of the tartan... cloth for me! :afro:
I'm a sucka for anything retro - it gives something a bit of history of where it came from and a bit of character.
... although it does look at bit chavvish burberry. perhaps in the rest of Europe burberry doesn't have that chav feel to it.
plus i'm not minted so its just the 'basic' for me
and even the dealer was saying that 'the leather is nice but not £1700 nice'
i'm fairly sure the cloth will be fine. i just have to remember not to went my undies.
Title: Re: leather - hard work?
Post by: R32UK on 29 October 2009, 07:57
Cloth again for me. Leather as nice as it makes the cabin look and smell, its horrible in summer and silly cold in winter. not to mention your ass slides about when pushing on.
Title: Re: leather - hard work?
Post by: keelaw on 29 October 2009, 08:50
Cloth again for me. Leather as nice as it makes the cabin look and smell, its horrible in summer and silly cold in winter. not to mention your ass slides about when pushing on.

+1

Had leather in my previous car was nice enough but suffered from all the faults above.  Saving 1,700 quid was a no brainer - spent it on ACC and Xenons :)


Title: Re: leather - hard work?
Post by: JellyCat on 29 October 2009, 14:51
Have cloth on my mk5 gti.
I found in my mk6 test drive the leather seats don't feel as nice as cloth to sit in. The leather ones didn't seem to wrap around you as much as the cloth ones. Also the leather ones don't seem to be lumbar adjustable.

The mk5 cloth is also fairly kid proof, our little 2 year old has split everything on the seats \ carpet around where the car seat is ancored, and it's all washed out of the seats \ carpet with the VAX machine fine (even 3 week old ground in formula from a bottle in the carpet).
Title: Re: leather - hard work?
Post by: VWKev on 29 October 2009, 14:57
Have cloth on my mk5 gti.
I found in my mk6 test drive the leather seats don't feel as nice as cloth to sit in. The leather ones didn't seem to wrap around you as much as the cloth ones. Also the leather ones don't seem to be lumbar adjustable.

The mk5 cloth is also fairly kid proof, our little 2 year old has split everything on the seats \ carpet around where the car seat is ancored, and it's all washed out of the seats \ carpet with the VAX machine fine (even 3 week old ground in formula from a bottle in the carpet).

I'm not sure i can agree with that, are you possibly 25-30 stone ?
Title: Re: leather - hard work?
Post by: Gazdebaz on 30 October 2009, 20:22

I'm not sure i can agree with that, are you possibly 25-30 stone ?

The master of great wit and repartee strikes again. :smiley:
Title: Re: leather - hard work?
Post by: GolfTi on 30 October 2009, 20:25
The jacara/tartan cloth is not as hard as the leather and does sink/grip  a bit more.
Title: Re: leather - hard work?
Post by: gizzywizzy on 30 October 2009, 20:38

+1

Had leather in my previous car was nice enough but suffered from all the faults above.  Saving 1,700 quid was a no brainer - spent it on ACC and Xenons :)



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Exactly the same for me!!! :grin:
Title: Re: leather - hard work?
Post by: JellyCat on 30 October 2009, 22:17
lol nope, regular sized not super sized.
Basically I took a Mk6 GTI with cloth trim for a spin and the seats felt great just like the Mk5 ones.

I wanted to check the leather ones out so dealer pointed me to a GTD with leather seats (he advised they're the same as the GTI). The leather ones just felt flatter and less bucket like, and didn't wrap around as much as the cloth, could be just in my head, or if the dealer was telling fibs about the GTD leather seats being the same as the GTI leather ones!


Title: Re: leather - hard work?
Post by: James Gould on 05 November 2009, 09:29
That's what I thought  -  I felt that the cloth seat 'wrapped' round my back more than the leather  -  thing is, spending a lot of money on a Golf so I don't want to be tight for the 'final' £1,700  -  that said, I'm so lazy when it comes to cleaning and vacuuming the car, does that mean forget the leather -   if I've got to constantly 'treat' the leather and condition it, that's not me  -  and the kids  -  wont school bags and kit etc increase the risk of rips and tears? I think one has to look at options like this: 1. are they a 'must' (eg leather in a BMW 135i coupe)?
2. do you personally want them (eg parking sensors)?  -  leather is not number 1 and, personally, not no. 2  -  if one ignores 1 and 2, there's a big risk of over-spec'ing and losing money (like spending £30K on the thing).

I guess I know where I stand on leather now....

PS ACC  -  any point  -  I'm not a 'thrill' driver'  -  same roads all the time....to kids' schools and work...normal road surfaces, suburbs  -  never country roads/lanes  -  suburb residential roads and motorways, sometimes  -  most Gti drivers would call me a boring driver.

Thanks, everyone, for all of your views.
Title: Re: leather - hard work?
Post by: keelaw on 05 November 2009, 13:39

James - for you I don't think you need ACC.  spend the money on your family instead :)


Title: Re: leather - hard work?
Post by: James Gould on 05 November 2009, 21:07
thanks - you're so right - I'm keeping the options to a min - might even stick to RCD 310 - having cloth and manual - yes, parking sensors, couple of other bits and pieces, yes to rear seat belt warning and rear side airbags, I'll probably have the carbon grey though I quite like the blue graphite, obviously  the 18" Monzas - if I do go for the RCD 510, it'll cost £700 because I'd end up going for the Dynaudio...going to order soon as I want it on 1 March...
Title: Re: leather - hard work?
Post by: avalon on 06 November 2009, 10:03
thanks - you're so right - I'm keeping the options to a min - might even stick to RCD 310 - having cloth and manual - yes, parking sensors, couple of other bits and pieces, yes to rear seat belt warning and rear side airbags, I'll probably have the carbon grey though I quite like the blue graphite, obviously  the 18" Monzas - if I do go for the RCD 510, it'll cost £700 because I'd end up going for the Dynaudio...going to order soon as I want it on 1 March...

that's 1 March 2011 I assume  :wink:


Ava
Title: Re: leather - hard work?
Post by: James Gould on 06 November 2009, 11:30
that's not even funny  -  this car biz is driving me up the wall  -  I'll only put it out of my mind when I get it