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Model specific boards => Golf mk1 => Topic started by: Madone_si on 28 September 2004, 12:22
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So after taking out the car engine yesterday and looking at the pistons and head - you can see the pistons via my gallery, I think I have to think about the following options:
1. Rebuild engine completely
2. Buy 1.9 8v complete engine (from TSR or C&R)
3. Haven't thought of a third option yet.... maybe a 1.8 16V lump? Is there any real difference from the 8V?
What you all think?
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whats your budget ?
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?1200
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16v with twin weber carb 8)
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I've found a 2L engine from a guy on another forum (no-rice...) but 16V does sound good - does anyone know what BHP they kick out as standard?
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140bhp on the standard management
get it breathing properly and the jets set up right you can see 165 - 170 on carbs.
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SWEET, so Twin carbs better than injection....?
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Not sure about "better" in the whole sense of the word, you can get the same power from injection engines with filter/exhaust/chip, but i can be a technophobe when it comes to engines. Carbs will be simpler to set up yourself.. no need for soldering any chips in etc, but you get the disadvantages too.
Might be a personal taste thing.. ive been playing with webers since age 11 8)
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just a suggestion, i dont know how old you are madone but...
im currently doing a 16v conversion on my tintop and i was hoping to go the weber 45s route. after checking it out ive decided against it because of
a) insurance and b) serious petrol consumption
whatever u decide make sure u can afford to be insured after the conversion ;)
im hoping the 16v conversion will be enough for me for a little while, danhocks mark 1 cab with the conversion was extremely quick. :D
for my cab the dream is for a G60 engine, supercharged cab has a nice ring to it 8)
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Sh*t Vixteris now you got me thinking of 16V and G60 engines..... BIG SMILES and my brain is thinking hard (now that doesn't happen often...!!) :) :)
Not bothered on insurance side, I've paid up to several thousand before on previous cars (Skyliner and Porsche)
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its a really hard decision isnt it.? my ideas change all the time and im glad i dont have to make a decision just yet on the cab.
i'm sure a G60 engine can be got within your price range.? one from a corrado would definately be best,? but your gonna have to keep an eye out as there not overly common.? ? 16v's are being broken all the time so it should be easy enough to find one of them but i think long term it may not be enough.
? if your gonna rebuild the cab you might as well do it to some extreme.? just seen a 1.8T engine for sale for ?850 here http://www.edition38.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=2969
only reason i dont want to 1.8t mine is because they seem to becoming rather common although speed, tunability definately make this engine a good choice ;)
doing the work yourself will save a fair bit? 8)
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yeah I know, it's hard. I really like the sound of 16V or G60 engine, I've looked at loads of 1.8T and like you said everyone seems to be doing it. I would love to put a Porsche engine in a golf - but not for this project.
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hmmm porsche engine ;D i had a chat about doing this with dizzie the other day but thats some serious knowledge, experience, money, time required. it would definately make the car stand out above the rest but realistically it wouldnt be an easy project at all and I could never afford to even drive it personally.
what will you be using the cab for?? shows, feature, track or a daily drive? ;)
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Weekend car really and summer time, I'm not really into the show car thing, I like to drive my cars properly not matter what the conditions.
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?850 for that engine and gearbox sounds reasonable..........
*Rich last seen heading off in Hazels direction for permission from the boss*
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LOL.... I thought you had a few engines kicking around already Rich?
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LOL.... I thought you had a few engines kicking around already Rich?
Yeah but not nice ones like that ;D
Unfortunately the boss has decree'd that tiling the conservatory and kitchen floors are higher on the list :( Oh well, one day :-\
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I know what you mean, I've had to finish off the back bedroom before the bird comes back from Cornwall next week..... I'm still getting engine though.... Not told her yet....
What engines you got kicking around Rich?
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its got to be 16v on webers, a real stealth racer. you can pick up 16v engine and boxes quite cheaply now and you will never be stuck or pay loads for parts ;)
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Where are all the 16V then? I've not seen... properly not looking in the right places..
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I know what you mean, I've had to finish off the back bedroom before the bird comes back from Cornwall next week..... I'm still getting engine though.... Not told her yet....
What engines you got kicking around Rich?
Only 1.8 8v ones........mind you I've just thrown out an old Audi 5 cylinder 2.2 lump........Nothing wrong with it but just have no use/room for it :(
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Well if anyone hears of any 16V going PM me please, I like the sound of 16V engine.. or if you can tell me best places to keep an eye out for them, that would help...
cleaning out engine bay tomorrow... (garage is starting to fill up already...)
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=9889&item=2491322293&rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=9889&item=2491542037&rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=9889&item=2491858033&rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=9889&item=2492274037&rd=1
those are all 16v's
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=9889&item=2491876010&rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=9889&item=2491730762&rd=1
those two are 1.8T's
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=9889&item=2492343340&rd=1
and that one is a TDI from a PD130, would be an awesome conversion !! ;D
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Looked a little closer at that tdi engine, even the "buy it now" at ?800 is an amazing bargain, considering what you get with it ! If thats a route you want to take i'd snap it up quick , i have a feeling it wont be available for long.
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OMG what a bargain for that TDI engine............ :o :o :o
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the TDI looks great, I'm emailing the person. I have no idea how the hell I would complete that conversion, but I think it might be a laugh to have a go... properly mean asking lots of help from people on VWVortex....!!!!
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180bhp, 325lbft diesel mk1 cab, now that would be a monster.
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Well the email been sent and I can only wait. Time to start looking into what I'm getting myself into......... :o
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check out parts for sale on this forum, 16v engine and box ?200 ;)
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16v engine weber carbs is the sh!t mate ;)
street sleeper 8)
also look at the straight up 9A block out of the passat or Corrado, can easily be tuned up to 170+ bhp.
just out of interest, who are you going to get to do the conversion? ???
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Me and old man will do the work...(old man is the technical one, I'm the one that will do the work and pay of course) I've rebuilt a few cars in the last 11 years... just not too many golf, mainly Mini's Coopers...
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ok have a few questions for you lot.
I'm looking at getting either a 1.9 8V engine or 2.0L 8V long stroke engine, not going for 16V now, what components do I need to change from my standard set-up from 1.8 GTI?
1. Oil pump?
2. Throttle body?
3. regulator?
4. Inlet manifold?
Any good links on this sort of upgrade would be helpful...? :)
Also does anyone know where I can get all new bolts, screws, washers etc for the engine?
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There you go fella:
http://www.clubgti.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20920&PN=1
hope that helps
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Thanks alot - learning loads today about 8V engine.
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Me and old man will do the work...(old man is the technical one, I'm the one that will do the work and pay of course) I've rebuilt a few cars in the last 11 years... just not too many golf, mainly Mini's Coopers...
Nice one, thats how I started out.........my Dad showed me the ropes........he was into Audi's whilst I was still passing my test in a Honda Civic, back in 1986 :o
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Me and old man will do the work...(old man is the technical one, I'm the one that will do the work and pay of course) I've rebuilt a few cars in the last 11 years... just not too many golf, mainly Mini's Coopers...
Nice one, thats how I started out.........my Dad showed me the ropes........he was into Audi's whilst I was still passing my test in a Honda Civic, back in 1986 :o
Yeah he stills like to play around with cars, so it give him something to do. He wants to go the VR6 route for the golf... I don't (money and time side just don't really have.....)
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Vr6 is all very well but there is nothing like the standard 1.6 engine that is in the mk1, although not quick it is better to have original in my opinion
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Just brought a 1.8 16V engine with gearbox this morning for ?100 :) :) (rebuilt head as well) now got to get loom and rest of the gear.....
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Loom shouldn't be that different to your original one should it? Both are K-Jet, so I would have thought it was just a case of re-routing stuff :-\
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Not sure on the loom, need to find out more on that.
Might also buy black golf been hit in the sale section of site as well... another cab project....
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.............off to have a look, but don't worry, I have no space for another vehicle here ::)
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I can store cars....
1 - in garage, 2 in drive way and 1 out front house (offroad) and 2 on the road......? :)
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Yeah I can too, trouble is I already have the cab, mk1 Golf, Pug, 2 Audi's and a Polo that I need to go and pick up.........getting a little congested.
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bloody hell you got a dealership going on there.....???!!!
I've also got a G60 engine and gearbox and loom coming soon..... but that's for another project which the body hasn't arrived yet - all will be told nearer xmas time....... SPEED is the result....
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just a suggestion, i dont know how old you are madone but...
im currently doing a 16v conversion on my tintop and i was hoping to go the weber 45s route.? after checking it out ive decided against it because of
a) insurance? and? b) serious petrol consumption
whatever u decide make sure u can afford to be insured after the conversion? ;)
im hoping the 16v conversion will be enough for me for a little while,? danhocks mark 1 cab with the conversion was extremely quick.? :D
for my cab the dream is for a G60 engine, supercharged cab has a nice ring to it? ?8)
Can I chat to you over phone about who is doing this work on your car and what was needed to complete your 16v conversion? Pm me details - be most appreicated?