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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: andykram on 25 October 2009, 09:58
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Having said in previous posts that I am happy with the 310 in my car (and I am to be honest) I'm still thinking of upgrading to an RNS510 and may get a bluetooth kit put in while I'm at it.
I have read various threads about the Fiscon kit but I have a couple of questions. I have been looking at the Autotronics shop in Leicester (website http://www.autotronicsuk.com/index.php) who supply and fit these items. I don't doubt there are others.
1. They list three different bluetooth kits ranging from £299 to £349 one of which is the Fiscon and the others being "VW original" normal and premium. Why would I buy a Fiscon (which is the one you boys all seem to have or talk about) over a VW one, particularly when the VW one has Nokia stamped all over it and both me and the wife have Nokia phones?
2. To fit the RNS510 (which needs another aerial) and a bluetooth kit how much butchering of my car do they have to do? This is the one thing more than anything that will put me off cos if they're drilling holes and taking the car to bits I'm inclined to do without. After all, I have so far!!!
3. Would it be wiser to buy these items and have a VW dealer fit them? At least then if there's any problems with the fitting (I'm thinking warranty type things) they'd be more inclined to sort them out.
Thanks in anticipation. We are talking £1400 or so here so I need to be sure before taking the plunge. Aplolgies if they're thick questions.
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Andy, fitting the headunit is a matter of a few bolts, switching a lead and putting in a code so no butchering at all. Likewise, fitting Fiscon is just plug and play and no mods to the car at all (depending of course on how and where you want your mic etc). I would have thought fitting an additional arial for the RNS510 is a bit more involved.
What's the object of the exercise to add satnav? I have tomtom on my iphone and it does a perfect job, maybe you could have something similar on your Nokia?
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The Rns510 usually comes supplied with a gps antenna to fit behind the dash, the bluetooth takes about 1 hour to fit due to routing the mic but I could supply and fit the RNS and the VW bluetooth for about £900 all in.
£550 RNS510
£300 Vw premium
£50 labour
Darren
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From what I've read, the Fiscon seems to do exactly the same as the VW kit, plus a bit more!
Have a quick look here to see what it does extra: http://kufatec.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=207
The Fiscon Plus kit is available as a group buy on this thread - £300 inc delivery instead of the standard £350... from Fiscon UK.
If you have any queries, Rich can sort you out on that thread.
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=127988.0
Like posted above - fitting a replacement stereo is a case of prising off the face plate (carefully), undoing 4 torx screws, and unplugging / plugging in the new unit. The fitting of the bluetooth module (whether its VW or Fiscon) is a case of plugging it in, and running a mic cable up the door pillar - or even into the overhead light (where the factory fit would be). You can do this without taking anything apart really- just a few screws out and loosening a few bits. I did it on my MK5 pretty easily in an hour.
You both have Nokia phones at the moment - but what if you change? The Fiscon has much better compatibility!
You can pick up the RNS on eBay for about £500-600 and the Fiscon for £300. The other thing required will be VagCom coding to get your car to recognise all its new toys!
Darren is your man if he's local. I'm sure he could supply you a Fiscon instead of a VW kit if you desire?
£500 less than you expected :wink:
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You actually have 3 options re the bluetooth unit
Fiscon(engine read-out on the info display)
Vw premium(only works with Rsap phone and not all nokia's are Rsap)
Skoda(works with all phones but still has the functions of the vw premium)
All the above will be around £300 can poss get the second 2 cheaper
Darren
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Darren,
Where are you based?
Graeme
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And how do I find out if my Nokia is an Rsap phone, whatever that means?
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Im in Leeds Graeme,
Andy if you goto the Nokia uk website you can see the specs of the phones alternatively if you go into the bluetooth menu on your mobile you should see the remote sim access or Rsap that you can turn on.
Or
Give me the model numbers and ill have a look for you.
Cheers
Darren
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6500c ?
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Booski the 6500 classic doesn't support Rsap unfortunatley.
Darren
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Booski the 6500 classic doesn't support Rsap unfortunatley.
Darren
Hi Darren i found this online http://www.bury.com/upload/products/lt9100/compatibility/LT-9100_Compatibility_list_EN.pdf
and it seems to show that rSAP is active on the 6500c, or am i misunderstanding this list?
thanks for the reply
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Mine and the wife's are 6600 Slides Darren. So from that list on the previous post these aren't Rsap compatible which means I'd need the Fiscon. Correct?
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Booski my wife has the 6500 slide which I believe is the same phone and it wont connect to the vw premium.
Andy you can always go with the Skoda unit which is called the basic plus and gives all the functions of the premium vw unit, but instead of been rsap its just uses the bluetooth instead of the sim so is able to connect to any phone. The new C version unit works well with the white dot matrix of the mk6.
Darren
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I'm getting a GTD in the next 14 days, the only optinal extra its coming with is metallic paint (Carbon Grey). I had wanted the RCD 510 or RNS 510 but opted for having the vehicle in a couple of weeks rather than a few months.
Anyway, I'm now on the hunt for an RNS 510 to fit into it for when it arrives. I've seen a few on eBay which are under £600 from Lithuania and the likes, or more expensive from Autotronics but they are in the UK.
So my questions are where is the best place to buy? Are the ones from Europe dodgy or fake? I've seen a couple of versions of the RNS 510 - which one do I need for the MK6 GTD?
Thanks in advance.
Graeme
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Thanks Darren..
The list indicates your wifes phone should have worked... So...
I'll probably need to get another phone :sad:
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So my questions are where is the best place to buy? Are the ones from Europe dodgy or fake? I've seen a couple of versions of the RNS 510 - which one do I need for the MK6 GTD?
I got one off eBay from Lithuania for £510 including delivery. It is practically immaculate. You'll notice that the majority of the Lithuanian / Polish sellers have 100% positive feedback over 100's of transactions and all they sell are Sat Nav units! Whether they're actually from write off's (like they say) or stolen is questionable - but they work well and usually come with a money back / replacement guarantee.
There are a couple of companies on eBay selling brand new units - but then they charge a premium £1000 price tag to go with them!
There are 3 versions around at the moment - A, B and C. The C versions are the newest, but they are basically all the same in terms of hardware and looks. I got an A version, and updated the firmware (pop in a disk and leave it for 45 mins) and its effectively a C version now.
All versions will fit in your GTD. You'll have to update the firmware to the latest if you want it to work properly though with the climate control display coming up on the SatNav. I think the firmware on a C version might already be up-to-date enough to do this... but C versions are pretty rare on eBay at the moment.
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Graeme you've got 14 weeks to get one I have one on order at the moment that I may be able to let go cheap so if you can leave it with me for a couple of days I may be able to help you out.
By the way the one I have on order will be going in my car but then Ill have one surplus to requirements from my car
Darren
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Darren,
I get the car in about 14 days, not weeks :tongue:
But if you are able to source me a mint RNS 510 in the near future I'd be very interested.
Graeme
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sorry graeme yes 14 days just waiting to here back reg my new one
cheers
Darren
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Darren,
Might sound like a silly question but can I ask why you're taking one RNS-510 out and putting another in its place. Whats wrong with the one coming out :grin:
Graeme
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Might sound like a silly question but can I ask why you're taking one RNS-510 out and putting another in its place. Whats wrong with the one coming out :grin:
I did wonder exactly the same thing! Seems like an odd thing to do.
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The one I have in has got 2 very slight scratches on the screen but i mean very slight other than that its an A version with the C version software and V5 maps with speed cams.
My mate works at VW and when a vehicle goes to the block be it a passat or golf/jetta he takes the headunits out and swaps them if there decent :cool:
He's offered to take mine and swap it for a better one which is good for me so I can sell that one on, Ive also ordered a brand new one from ebay, Just literaly trying to make my money back? which in the present climate can you blame me :grin:
They are legit if thats what your thinking.
Darren
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Cheers for that, obviously I don't want the scratched one :grin:
..but if you can source a mint condition one then get in touch.
Graeme
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No the scratched one will be going back into a auction car :wink:
Darren
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Sorry to butt in here, but im interested in an RNS510 if you can source one at the right money.
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Ill let you know Jon
Darren