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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: James Gould on 23 October 2009, 14:31
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Gti Mark VI - I prefer the look of the 3-door to the 5-door but, as a family man with kids, can I consider the 3-door when only the 5-door can have rear seat belt warning facility and rear side airbags?
Got a Freelander 2 as well but I don't want the Golf to be put aside everytime we go out as a family.
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We have the 5 door and imho it looks no worse than the 3 door with family members to carry in the back I wanted the security that the 5 door gives eg in an accident at least with back doors kids have a chance of getting out rather than being stuck behind front seats with no chance of getting out. But that is my opinion and I am a bit of a stickler for safety.
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3 door does look better, only people with 5 doors think they look the same ;) 3 door simply look curvier and more "sporty" as a result.
Depends what you want out the car, when you say kids to mean baby or walking? How hard is it to pull the seat forward to let them out? All down to what you want to do really. If you think the 5 door looks OK but imo the 3 doors looks a worth the sacrifice of moving a seat forward now and again.
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We have the 5 door and imho it looks no worse than the 3 door with family members to carry in the back I wanted the security that the 5 door gives eg in an accident at least with back doors kids have a chance of getting out rather than being stuck behind front seats with no chance of getting out. But that is my opinion and I am a bit of a stickler for safety.
oops! I can see what you've got - ACC worth it?
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3 door does look better, only people with 5 doors think they look the same ;) 3 door simply look curvier and more "sporty" as a result.
Depends what you want out the car, when you say kids to mean baby or walking? How hard is it to pull the seat forward to let them out? All down to what you want to do really. If you think the 5 door looks OK but imo the 3 doors looks a worth the sacrifice of moving a seat forward now and again.
it's the safety thing - can't have rear seat belt warning nor rear side airbags in 3-door - and ease of getting out in accident G-d Forbid in 5 door
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3 door does look better, only people with 5 doors think they look the same ;) 3 door simply look curvier and more "sporty" as a result.
I totally agree - and you're right in that its always people who have 5 doors says it looks as sporty. If it did, all VW's press release photos for the R and GTI would be 5 door - but they're not!
The Golf is a great compromise for people who need back doors but want a hot hatch. Look at the Astra, Civic, Clio, Megane etc - none of these even have an option as a 5 door in their sports model... and the S3 has only introduced the 'sportback' version (which looks like a small estate car!) in the last year.
3 doors for me... but then my back seats are used a handful of times a year!
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3 door does look better, only people with 5 doors think they look the same ;) 3 door simply look curvier and more "sporty" as a result.
I totally agree - and you're right in that its always people who have 5 doors says it looks as sporty. If it did, all VW's press release photos for the R and GTI would be 5 door - but they're not!
The Golf is a great compromise for people who need back doors but want a hot hatch. Look at the Astra, Civic, Clio, Megane etc - none of these even have an option as a 5 door in their sports model... and the S3 has only introduced the 'sportback' version (which looks like a small estate car!) in the last year.
3 doors for me... but then my back seats are used a handful of times a year!
no-one can make the decision for me, I guess
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I totally agree - and you're right in that its always people who have 5 doors says it looks as sporty. If it did, all VW's press release photos for the R and GTI would be 5 door - but they're not!
The Golf is a great compromise for people who need back doors but want a hot hatch. Look at the Astra, Civic, Clio, Megane etc - none of these even have an option as a 5 door in their sports model... and the S3 has only introduced the 'sportback' version (which looks like a small estate car!) in the last year.
3 doors for me... but then my back seats are used a handful of times a year!
The older Megan 225 renaultsport had a 5 door option, the new coupe version as you say does not.
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3 doors for me... but then my back seats are used a handful of times a year!
lol same !
The joys of being a single 22 year old :D
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oops! I can see what you've got - ACC worth it?
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Yeah ACC is well worth it imo. I generally use it on comfort because the roads round here are pretty windy and up and down so I really find it softens the ride up. I like the sports setting when I'm bombing down the motorway feels like I'm in the best sports car in the world then. ACC is fun if you fancy it I would get it.
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There's a guy in my work who has a 3 door TDI. I actually think the 3 door looks better on the mk6. I've got a 5 door for family reasons and also the fact that the doors are so long on the 3 door I wouldn't be able to open them in my garage! Otherwise I'd have got a Scirocco.
The 3 door mk5 just looked a bit fat where the mk6 has a nice line up the side. Only works on certain colours though IMO.
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ha ha ha I believe that the younger generation will definately have a different outlook on things especially in a debate of which is better i.e. 3 or 5 doors... Once you are married and you have the first kid, your perception and the effort needed to shove the seat in front all the time especially when it is raining or when the kid just made a mess in the back seat, trust me, will change!! A 5 door option is a god-send!!... But if you are single, get the 3 door... save some quid as well... but I would get the new Z4 or the 135i coupe instead...
I realised in a forum such as this, we should actually split all our discussions between the zit-covered teens, young adults, thirty somethings and the old farts... :evil: I think the risk of flaming one another will be dramatically reduced... ha ha ha
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I guess im the only one that thinks 5dr actually looks better then :huh: :grin:
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I guess im the only one that thinks 5dr actually looks better then :huh: :grin:
I also like the 5 door look... over the 3 door...
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I guess im the only one that thinks 5dr actually looks better then :huh: :grin:
No, I have a 5 door and imho the doors on the 3 are too big, catch one in the wind and god knows what damage could be done!!!
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3dr looks better and more sporty,why do you think all the publicity photo`s and brochures have the 3dr on the front page :wink:5dr is more practical if you have kids and its your only car.
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No, I have a 5 door and imho the doors on the 3 are too big, catch one in the wind and god knows what damage could be done!!!
I agree on several levels that a 5 door is more practical. The doors are smaller and easier to manouvre, its easier to get kids / baby seats etc into the back. However, I still feel that the 3 door looks more 'sporty'!
I guess the choice is really down to your needs and what you like the look of best.
I like the 3 door best - I have no kids or elderly family I need to transport - and the plus side is its cheaper :wink:
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3dr looks better and more sporty,why do you think all the publicity photo`s and brochures have the 3dr on the front page :wink:
Its subjective my dear simonpolly... since I like the 5 door version... and just because a brochure has a picture of it means something is better? hmmmm where is the logic in that? :laugh:
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I agree on several levels that a 5 door is more practical. The doors are smaller and easier to manouvre, its easier to get kids / baby seats etc into the back. However, I still feel that the 3 door looks more 'sporty'!
Yeah, I agree with you on this... Yes, the 3 door looks more sporty!
I guess the choice is really down to your needs and what you like the look of best.
I like the 3 door best - I have no kids or elderly family I need to transport - and the plus side is its cheaper :wink:
Amen to that!! No arguments here
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If you did a poll of non gti owners and showed them the 3dr and the 5dr side on,i bet 80% would say the 3dr looks better,hence why its on the front cover,its a hot hatch not a taxi :tongue:
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If you did a poll of non gti owners and showed them the 3dr and the 5dr side on,i bet 80% would say the 3dr looks better,hence why its on the front cover,its a hot hatch not a taxi :tongue:
ha ha ha lets put a wager on this? But how will we scientifically prove our points? Since I suspect non-GTI owners are already suspect in having a deficiency in their intellectual prowess since they didnt buy a GTI in the first place...? :grin:
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Your on,i`ll get a clipboard and some photo`s and go stand on the street corner and do a poll. :grin:£10 BRITISH POUNDS IT IS :smug:
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Sign up to a random forum, post 2 pictures, and set up a poll!
Whether its a knitting forum, weddings, hifi equipment, football or ANYTHING - as long as its not VW Golf related!
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Dogging forum would be interesting :grin:,mind you they would go for the 5 dr :laugh:
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To the OP, 3 door cars always look better than 5 door cars (and I've got a 5 door car) but 5 doors is much more practical. Especially with babies/toddlers. Getting a toddler in and out of a car seat in the rear is so much easier in a 5 door car than a 3 door one.
Come to think of it, the Golf looks great in both 3 and 5 doors. There's really not that much difference - IMO.
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I realised in a forum such as this, we should actually split all our discussions between the zit-covered teens, young adults, thirty somethings and the old farts... :evil: I think the risk of flaming one another will be dramatically reduced... ha ha ha
Then we'd need another section for the WUMs and rottweilers to battle it out.....
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Now now, remember the 1998 Top Gear where Clarkson put the Mk IV up against the Peugeot 306 GTi-6 (of blessed memory)? The Pug wiped the floor with the Golf on all fronts, but Clarkson gave the bout to the Golf because - it came in a 5-door option!
I had to get a 5-door this time, first time ever, because of changed circumstances meaning that I actually have passengers in the back more than once a year. It drives me nuts, because I'm so used to having access to the back seat area through the driver's door, and having to open a different door is a pain in the backside. In a way, too, it makes me feel that the car isn't my own exclusive transport because it's set up to, OK, be a taxi.
But it really is worth it when you have to carry actual people in the back seats, as opposed to assorted cargo.
And the difference in looks isn't so much, when you really get down to it.
Rolfe.
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I'll take some of that wager. 3dr defo looks better than 5.
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3 doors look nicer than 5. 5 doors are more practical than 3. The more doors, the heavier the car. The less doors, the less strength as the doors are structurally superior in stength to normal bodywork, plus the cutouts are re-inforced. If I were single, I would have a three door. (My G60 is a 3 door.) But if I were to buy one of these as a family car, 5 door.
Pro's and cons for both. Doesn't matter how many doors, it still looks nice. It's a matter of what you want it for. :smiley:
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I guess im the only one that thinks 5dr actually looks better then :huh: :grin:
Nope I prefer the look of a 5 door. It is purely subjective though.
3 door for me is too fat arsed and van like especially with the rear windows tinted.
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I always thought the 3 door looked sportier but my 5 door has really grown on me. I went for 5 as we have a new baby but ,my 10 and 8 year old didn't have any problems getting in and out of the back of my Scirocco but I found getting in and out of it a pain with the long doors and lower roofline and big seat bolsters. Golf much better than Scirocco in every regard and 5 much better than 3 (for me).
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he he he I hate it that if you had 3 passengers and everytime say you are dropping your kid at school and its raining... you as a driver or the front passenger will always get wet... again ha ha ha... so 5 doors will save you from being wet again and again...
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^ Tell the kids to get the bus or walk solves this problem :wink:
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3 door looks sportier, but defo one for the younger generation.
an older guy/ girl in a 3 door looks wrong.
5 door says you're a family man with responsibilities. much more classy.
3 door says you're selfish and don't care about your passengers. or that you're clinging on to your teenage years.
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Gti Mark VI - I prefer the look of the 3-door to the 5-door but, as a family man with kids, can I consider the 3-door when only the 5-door can have rear seat belt warning facility and rear side airbags?
Got a Freelander 2 as well but I don't want the Golf to be put aside everytime we go out as a family.
if u look properly the 3 door is slightly different to the 5 door in the design shape of the side rearend windows.
if you're a family man, 5 door is so much more practical. because its a gti it doesnt really matter if its 3 or 5. also it will be tricky getting a baby seat in if you had any babies. another point is wider doors of the 3 door means it can be awkward when you're parked in a carpark say...
btw i have a 5 door because it was more practical for my needs.
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I guess im the only one that thinks 5dr actually looks better then :huh: :grin:
I think it's quite colour sensitive - I saw a red 5-door on a petol forecourt and really didn't like it, but the 5-door blue .:R32 I saw on the way home looked yummy. :drool:
3 door does look better, only people with 5 doors think they look the same ;) 3 door simply look curvier and more "sporty" as a result.
They don't. The proportions around the C-pillar are different and - let's be honest here - no matter which way it's spun, a 5-door is usually a compromis.... isn't it?
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Gti Mark VI - I prefer the look of the 3-door to the 5-door but, as a family man with kids, can I consider the 3-door when only the 5-door can have rear seat belt warning facility and rear side airbags?
Got a Freelander 2 as well but I don't want the Golf to be put aside everytime we go out as a family.
Get a 5dr!!
(http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/hh376/ady189/GTI1.jpg)
(http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/hh376/ady189/GolfGTI.jpg)
You'll love it more!
I hated having to move seats to get people in back of my last a3!
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My lass just read this thread over my shoulder and said. 5 doors are for people with friends. 3 doors are for people with no friends or virtual friends. :wink: :tongue: :evil: :wink: :grin: :laugh:
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Or rich enough to have a people carrier and use the 3dr golf as a weekend play car, paid for with cash :tongue:
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5 doors are for people with friends
I rest my case :grin: :evil:
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I like 5 doors as the doors on the 3 door are just far too big. Its hard to get in and out in parking spaces. Its one of the top reason i ruled out the scirocco as my own personal car as the doors are huge. If the doors were similar length to say a mk1 or mk2 golf then thats a different matter. The width of doors does not help either.
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Gti Mark VI - I prefer the look of the 3-door to the 5-door but, as a family man with kids, can I consider the 3-door when only the 5-door can have rear seat belt warning facility and rear side airbags?
Got a Freelander 2 as well but I don't want the Golf to be put aside everytime we go out as a family.
Get a 5dr!!
(http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/hh376/ady189/GTI1.jpg)
(http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/hh376/ady189/GolfGTI.jpg)
You'll love it more!
I hated having to move seats to get people in back of my last a3!
I thought only the 3-door suited white but looks good on the 5-door, too
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Gti Mark VI - I prefer the look of the 3-door to the 5-door but, as a family man with kids, can I consider the 3-door when only the 5-door can have rear seat belt warning facility and rear side airbags?
Got a Freelander 2 as well but I don't want the Golf to be put aside everytime we go out as a family.
if u look properly the 3 door is slightly different to the 5 door in the design shape of the side rearend windows.
if you're a family man, 5 door is so much more practical. because its a gti it doesnt really matter if its 3 or 5. also it will be tricky getting a baby seat in if you had any babies. another point is wider doors of the 3 door means it can be awkward when you're parked in a carpark say...
btw i have a 5 door because it was more practical for my needs.
makes sense - thnx
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My lass just read this thread over my shoulder and said. 5 doors are for people with friends. 3 doors are for people with no friends or virtual friends. :wink: :tongue: :evil: :wink: :grin: :laugh:
I like it!
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My lass just read this thread over my shoulder and said. 5 doors are for people with friends. 3 doors are for people with no friends or virtual friends. :wink: :tongue: :evil: :wink: :grin: :laugh:
I like it!
If you`ve got kids get a 5 door,i use my touran when karting the family around, i have taken the mrs and kids out in my 3dr but its not suitable for two adults and 3 young children.
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My lass just read this thread over my shoulder and said. 5 doors are for people with friends. 3 doors are for people with no friends or virtual friends. :wink: :tongue: :evil: :wink: :grin: :laugh:
I like it!
If you`ve got kids get a 5 door,i use my touran when karting the family around, i have taken the mrs and kids out in my 3dr but its not suitable for two adults and 3 young children.
got a freelander 2 as well but we use both cars for the family - will go for the 5-dr
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James.. you might want to try type your reply out of the quotes. Makes it a little easier to understand then pal :wink:
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I've opted for 5 doors for the reasons above. I find the front doors too big on the 3 door.
My garage is pretty narrow and i'm now sick after many years of edging 2 and 3 door cars in the garage and squeezing out with the door wedged on the garage wall [though covered in lurid pink carpet!].
Hang on, it may have something to do with my gut getting bigger too ..... :wink:
Ava
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I like 5 doors as the doors on the 3 door are just far too big. Its hard to get in and out in parking spaces. Its one of the top reason i ruled out the scirocco as my own personal car as the doors are huge. If the doors were similar length to say a mk1 or mk2 golf then thats a different matter. The width of doors does not help either.
+1.
Went for the 5 doors for exactly the same reasons. The Sciricco was really awkard to get out of from the back seats. GTI 3 door was a lot easier and I do look the look of it, but practicallity won in the end.
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do you mean like this?
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do you mean like this?
Bingo!!! :grin: :grin: :wink:
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I'm learning - thnx
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I've currently got a 3 door mrk5 GTI (as thought it looked nicer at the time) but have a mrk6 GTI 5 door on order reason being now we have a little one it's a nightmare getting her in \ out of the back of the 3 door.
The sliding front seat is a pain in the backside as over the last 3 years the cable or clip or something that allows it to slide forward when you pull the handel keeps breaking every couple of months. Has anyone else had this problem (guess if you're in\out of the back all the time it's more obvious!) :angry:
Key differences I've found (if you have youngn's aged about 2ish):
3 door front sliding seat system keeps breaking, then you have to manually push the seat forward (if you know what I mean using the leaver under the seat), as well as pulling the handel to move the back of the seat forward.
3 door rear window is higher and smaller due to car lines, so less for the little one to see out of, even though the isofix seat is high up she's only young.
3 door doors are too big especially in car parks when trying to get the little one into the back.
3 doors are a nightmare if your out with your mates and they need to get in \ out of the back (especially if one of them is a femail with a skirt lol)
Regarding 5 door new GTI:
5 door was way easier to get little one in \ out also the door opening is a good hight so we don't bang her head getting her in (the MAXICOSI isofix seats outstanding and safe, but have a large base so are high up). I actually tried a merc CLS and almost had to fold up daughter to get her into the seat the door opening was so low in the back!
5 door window is larger for little one to look out of, plus very nicely tinted so no need for binds
5 door is way way way better in car parks with small bays
5 door is ideal for nappy changes if your in the middle of nowhere or a pub with no changing facilities (i.e open back door and put changing mat on back seat, can't do that with a 3 door).
My thoughts:
Wife drives the GTI mostly, but we both got so fed up with the 3 door that have put an order in for a new mk6 5 door GTI (as I've got another car I use in the week with 5 doors so can see the difference).
Also having a larger second car is only part of an answer (i.e tricky to take them both on holiday to wales, for example a Q5 has loads of room and is very nice etc, but you would miss the GTI fun on the roads when you get there and have off loaded all the baby stuff etc!).
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Jellycat, I think you have summed it up quite well.
It’s all down to personal circumstances and choices. When raiding the options list it’s what will suit your life style at that time. You may get people disagreeing with some of the choices or not picking certain options, but everyone to their own. We all have different requirements and taste. But in the end you will still end up with a car that you will enjoy.
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Cheers Gazdebaz.
That's what sold the golf for me (and it's the only car which I've every bought another model again, especially following on from the first one!).
It's all things to all men, it can be a sensible family car, or swift hot hatch that puts a smile on your face, it's a shopping trolly, it's car to transport crap from ikea, it's a car you don't feel a burk pulling up into a client's company car park or a 5 star hotel that has valet parking.
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it's a car to transport crap from ikea,
Plus the boot isn't that big, you should still be able to find the 2 missing screws for your wardrobe! :laugh:
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Ah I'm the master of getting Ikea crap into a car. My record about 6 years ago was 2 PAX wardrobes into an MGTF 2 seater (roof was down, and made it down the motorway, but had to do a 2nd run for the rest of the crap.
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Convertibles are the masters when it comes to furniture. Mate moved a double bed in his 3 series convertible... with the roof down its unlimited headroom!
Talking of which, whats happening to a Golf Convertible? I guess the Eos has that all wrapped up?
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think as I'm approaching 39, too old for a convertable golf. I think once you hit 40 and your a bloke, only convertable that you can get away with is an Aston, a Jag or an SL (otherwise you look like you're having a mid life crisis lol)
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It’s all down to personal circumstances and choices. When raiding the options list it’s what will suit your life style at that time. You may get people disagreeing with some of the choices or not picking certain options, but everyone to their own. We all have different requirements and taste. But in the end you will still end up with a car that you will enjoy.
Never truer words spoken :kiss: :laugh:
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I have a 5 door Mk5 GTI because I have a toddler. If I was single or didn't have children then I would have gone for a 3 door.
But then if I could get a 3 door car I would get the Scirroco over the Golf. I wonder what made people get a 3 door GTI instead of the Scirroco?
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My lass just read this thread over my shoulder and said. 5 doors are for people with friends. 3 doors are for people with no friends or virtual friends. :wink: :tongue: :evil: :wink: :grin: :laugh:
I kind of think she has a point, you know.... :smug:
Rolfe.
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I wonder what made people get a 3 door GTI instead of the Scirroco?
5 seats instead of 4
Considerably bigger boot
Rear seat head room - I'm 6ft 2" and my head presses the roof in the back of the Roc!
4wd (Golf R v Roc R)
Black Wheel option (Golf R v Roc R)
Reverse Cam option
Theres a few for you!
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Plus the Golf is just a better car. I think i'm the only one that's had both, I did 13.5K miles in the roc and have done 6.5K in the Golf, much, much prefer the Golf, more planted, less understeer, seems to get the power down better, less frantic, less torque steer overtaking, more space (obviously) better quality features (bonnet struts etc).
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Don't get me wrong - the Roc is a stunning looking car, and if the R version had been released with 4wd, I may well have taken that instead.
I just can't help feeling that the Roc is like the Golfs little girlie sister though!
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Don't get me wrong - the Roc is a stunning looking car, and if the R version had been released with 4wd, I may well have taken that instead.
I just can't help feeling that the Roc is like the Golfs little girlie sister though!
I agree..... Not that we're biased
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I agree..... Not that we're biased
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I actually think the Roc R is a better looking car than the Golf R - and if it was on looks alone I'd have taken the Roc R. Unfortunatley, its not just about looks and the Golf R is a better car - hence why I picked it!
Thankfully, the Golf R is still a cracking looking car - so I'm happy anyway :cool:
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My lass just read this thread over my shoulder and said. 5 doors are for people with friends. 3 doors are for people with no friends or virtual friends. :wink: :tongue: :evil: :wink: :grin: :laugh:
I kind of think she has a point, you know.... :smug:
Rolfe.
Does she ? My friends have their own cars, and why would anyone want to spec 2 extra doors for their friends ? :wink:
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Does she ? My friends have their own cars, and why would anyone want to spec 2 extra doors for their friends ? :wink:
Not all friends have cars and sometimes, in the interest of the environment, we might want to car pool to the pub in one car to save petrol, parking and to gossip whilst heading to a destination. Also if you are heading to the pub, what better way to go home if your pal who needs to be the designated driver... has a golf gti to do it in?
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Don't get me wrong - the Roc is a stunning looking car, and if the R version had been released with 4wd, I may well have taken that instead.
I just can't help feeling that the Roc is like the Golfs little girlie sister though!
There's no denying that the Golf is a brilliant car. The perfect allrounder. Just wanted some views on why people went for the Golf instead of the Roc. I don't know who VW are targeting the Roc at really as the Golf has so many advantages. I've still yet to see a Mk6 GTI on the road in my neck of the woods though (which is a good sign as you don't want too many people to have them).
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AHA!!! There are 3 United Grey GTIs in my neigbourhood including mine! But I am the only 5 door variant!!! AHA!!!
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Does she ? My friends have their own cars, and why would anyone want to spec 2 extra doors for their friends ? :wink:
Not all friends have cars and sometimes, in the interest of the environment, we might want to car pool to the pub in one car to save petrol, parking and to gossip whilst heading to a destination. Also if you are heading to the pub, what better way to go home if your pal who needs to be the designated driver... has a golf gti to do it in?
So you spec a 5-door because you may want to be a designated driver and take your friends to the pub ? You are either very kind, or daft :grin:
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I spec the 5-door because I have friends and relations who come to visit, using public transport, and I like to take them places.
And because we have a regular car-share rota for choir practice and it's a pain in the backside to have to keep leaping out and in outside everybody's front doors. I was the only one with a 3-door before I got the Golf, and it was a right pest.
Didn't worry me when I lived in England though, because I didn't have to transport friends nearly so often. And I did prefer the 3-door for me personally. It just depends on your circumstances.
Rolfe.
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So you spec a 5-door because you may want to be a designated driver and take your friends to the pub ? You are either very kind, or daft :grin:
I didnt say it was me... ha ha ha... and when I want to be kind, at least I have the flexibility to do so... and not be a c0ck and unable to do anything about it if I had a 3 door... and try getting drunk ppl in the back... ha ha ha... and if they puke... hmmmm I'd rather have the 2 extra doors to clean up the mess... :sick:
HM
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I like being able to open the rear doors to chuck my coat/ bag/ laptop/ shopping bag/ etc there. Much more convenient than lifting the boot (which houses my golf bag) or accessing the back seat in a 3 door.
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5 door easy for nappy changes too as open back door, put down changing mat accross rear seats and sorted! Ideal if your in the middle of the lakes with no baby changing facilities. 3 Door was impossible for this (used the boot once or twice for a flat surface lol.
Also pre- wife & kids etc I had a 4 door 3 series, the rear doors were fantastic for going out and about with the mates (plus I didn't have to get out to let them in out of the back of the car etc). Screwed up with the 3 door golf (thought it looked nice but never again will make that mistake, unless I get a DB9 :)
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5 door easy for nappy changes too
Been there, done that. Oh the joys of being a parent. :grin: Plus as kids grow up they want the independence of having their own door.
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I like being able to open the rear doors to chuck my coat/ bag/ laptop/ shopping bag/ etc there. Much more convenient than lifting the boot (which houses my golf bag) or accessing the back seat in a 3 door.
Funny, the reason I liked the 3-door was that I liked having access to the rear foot-well for a briefcase, or even to chuck parcels on the back seat, all from the driver's door without having to open another door.
Rolfe.