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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: Maltloaf on 20 October 2009, 10:33

Title: Air leak problem?
Post by: Maltloaf on 20 October 2009, 10:33
Hi Guys,
The old 8v digi woes have struck again. :laugh:
I believe I have an air leak somewhere and I hoping someone might have encountered this before.

When the engine is up to temp I sometimes come up to a junction the revs are slightly higher than normal (1200+) at idle. If I lift the clutch slightly with the brakes on I put load on the engine it drops back down again. Almost like the vacuum is pulling something shut.

I have disconnected the ISV and have exactly the same problem, so I do not think it has anything to do with the blue temp sensor or ISV, but I have only disconnected the connection from the ISV and not removed its plumbing from the idle circuit this will probably be my next course of action.

I have sprayed carb clearer over some of the joints on the inlet manifold while the engine is running but has not given any signs that there is anything leaking.

Could it have something to do with the dizzy advancing the idle? The MPG is quite bad when the car does this.

Any ideas?
Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: Air leak problem?
Post by: rubjonny on 20 October 2009, 10:53
check the idle switchunderneath the throttle body clicks when throttle shut, and the wiring tothe throttle body hasnt snapped :)
Title: Re: Air leak problem?
Post by: Maltloaf on 20 October 2009, 10:59
Both the throttle switches click in the correct positions and were working okay when I tested them a couple of weeks ago, but TBH I have not tested when it is hot.  :smiley:
I am thinking it is around the throttle area. Is there any tolerances I can check or adjustment I can make to the throttle or is this best left to a VW Tech? The engine has done 160k so there might be a little slack in this area.
Cheers
Title: Re: Air leak problem?
Post by: rubjonny on 20 October 2009, 11:07
main thing is that it closes to the throttle stop firmly. if this is ok then dont fiddle with it! usually if it doesnt hit the stop eather the throttle cable is too tight or the idle switch is adjusted too far out.  another spot for problems is the idle screw, if the oring is worn it will leak airt and sometimes unwind itself!

the breather valve is a good spot for leaks too, check the rubber bung hasnt split and the breather valve sits in it firmly
Title: Re: Air leak problem?
Post by: Maltloaf on 20 October 2009, 11:10
Cheers I will check this.
Title: Re: Air leak problem?
Post by: sleeper16 on 20 October 2009, 11:47
my abf was doing this, might not be of any help but try disconnecting your air inlet and putting your hand over the throttle body this should make no-little diffrence at idle as it idle mainly off the isv but if it makes a big diffrence like mine did you know you have an air leak past the butterfly.

mine did this at all temps though so probably not the issue just thought id mention it
Title: Re: Air leak problem?
Post by: Maltloaf on 20 October 2009, 12:03
This might work but I would have thought that there would still be air passing via the idle screw. It will certianly allow me to check the throttle butterfly and elimiate a few things. :smiley: Cheers
Title: Re: Air leak problem?
Post by: rubjonny on 20 October 2009, 14:35
wont work on a digi as if you do that the afm wont be working and so the ecu wont know how much air is flowing
Title: Re: Air leak problem?
Post by: indigti3 on 20 October 2009, 14:39
maltloaf, can you hear what seems to be a kind of whistling under the hood every now and again whilst your driving?
Title: Re: Air leak problem?
Post by: Maltloaf on 20 October 2009, 14:44
I haven't noticed any odd whistling noises.
Title: Re: Air leak problem?
Post by: indigti3 on 21 October 2009, 14:08
I had a look under my hood today, and there is a pipe behind the TB, it's a thin green or blue pipe with a cloth bend going into the TB.  I reckon this cloth bit is a bit worn.  anyone know what this pipe is for/called?  is it a common failure?  cheers  indi.
Title: Re: Air leak problem?
Post by: rubjonny on 21 October 2009, 14:13
could be:
auto box
cruise control
carbon canister

UK spec models dont usually have this pipe here, its blocked off instead.  Other thing it could be is someone has moved the MFA vacuum pipe here, from the factory this pipe should be on the chunky brake servo hose.
Title: Re: Air leak problem?
Post by: indigti3 on 21 October 2009, 18:43
def not cruise, all very weird, i'll try and post a pic tomorrow, cheers indi.
Title: Re: Air leak problem?
Post by: mattkh on 21 October 2009, 20:48
Hi Guys,
The old 8v digi woes have struck again. :laugh:
 If I lift the clutch slightly with the brakes on I put load on the engine it drops back down again. Almost like the vacuum is pulling something shut.

Any ideas?
Cheers
Matt

Hi
Check the brake servo hose.
Title: Re: Air leak problem?
Post by: Maltloaf on 11 November 2009, 12:53
Just in case anyone else has this. I think it is my ISV playing up again, even when it is disconnected. I think there might be some sort of air leak within the valve itself.
Is it possible to dismantle it or just try to get hold of another one?