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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: VWKev on 10 October 2009, 00:05

Title: Will I loose my DAB radio ?
Post by: VWKev on 10 October 2009, 00:05
Hi all, just popped into my head... one of the first things I'll be upgrading when I get my GTi is the RCD510 to the RNS510. With the DAB radio connecting/fitted to the RCD510, will I loose that If I swap to the RNS510 or is there a way I can keep it ?
Title: Re: Will I loose my DAB radio ?
Post by: mortygt140 on 10 October 2009, 05:56
The DAB radio will probably be an external module that is connected to your RCD510 so once changed over you should still have the DAB on the RNS510.

Darren
Title: Re: Will I loose my DAB radio ?
Post by: FroGTI on 10 October 2009, 07:47
I second that: we don't yet have digital radio in France, so I don't think VW will include the DAB as a matter of course in their radio units. I suspect it is a separate module, like the TV option (on other VAG cars, not the Golf).
Title: Re: Will I loose my DAB radio ?
Post by: p3asa on 10 October 2009, 09:57
Not sure Kev but I came across this last night by accident
http://www.volkswagenaccessories.co.uk/accessories/SearchAccessories.do?range=Golf&groupId=&modelId=&text=&pager.offset=20 (http://www.volkswagenaccessories.co.uk/accessories/SearchAccessories.do?range=Golf&groupId=&modelId=&text=&pager.offset=20)
It suggests the RCD510 have different units whether you have the DAB, reversing camera or plain old RCD510
Title: Re: Will I loose my DAB radio ?
Post by: FroGTI on 10 October 2009, 11:13
Not sure Kev but I came across this last night by accident
http://www.volkswagenaccessories.co.uk/accessories/SearchAccessories.do?range=Golf&groupId=&modelId=&text=&pager.offset=20 (http://www.volkswagenaccessories.co.uk/accessories/SearchAccessories.do?range=Golf&groupId=&modelId=&text=&pager.offset=20)
It suggests the RCD510 have different units whether you have the DAB, reversing camera or plain old RCD510

I stand corrected. Bit surprised though...
Title: Re: Will I loose my DAB radio ?
Post by: VWKev on 10 October 2009, 11:23
Damn it, ok thanks guys.
Title: Re: Will I loose my DAB radio ?
Post by: p3asa on 10 October 2009, 13:24

I stand corrected. Bit surprised though...

I reckon if it was an add on unit then it would be a well known upgrade but I've never seen anyone comment on that even altho it has been asked a few times on other forums.
Title: Re: Will I loose my DAB radio ?
Post by: mac7 on 10 October 2009, 14:10

I stand corrected. Bit surprised though...

I reckon if it was an add on unit then it would be a well known upgrade but I've never seen anyone comment on that even altho it has been asked a few times on other forums.

I've found a diagram of the back of an RCD510 which shows a DAB aerial connection. Whether that indicates a built-in DAB tuner or not is still uncertain though - but it might be of help:

http://www.my-gti.com/1313/volkswagen-rcd-510-pin-assignments (http://www.my-gti.com/1313/volkswagen-rcd-510-pin-assignments)

This site also seems to have a lot of info regarding the various hardware versions of the RNS510, firmware upgrades, reverse camera, TV, etc.
Title: Re: Will I loose my DAB radio ?
Post by: VWKev on 10 October 2009, 14:15
Thanks mac7
Title: Re: Will I loose my DAB radio ?
Post by: p3eps on 10 October 2009, 15:02
Not the greatest photo I know - but it was taken with my phone!
Here is my RNS510 A-version (which is currently living under my computer desk!).
The PIN diagram on my-gti is different to my one.  It still has all the connectors - apart from that No.1 - DAB aerial input... although they're in slightly different places.

Judging by this, it must mean that the DAB tuner is built into the RNS / RCD - and if this is the case, you won't be able to do a simple swap unless you buy an RNS that has DAB built in.  :sad:  I'd imagine this would only be available in version C units?

I'm not convinced by the DAB anyway, as the car I test drove with it didn't get a good signal hardly anywhere!  Perhaps you should test out your one Kev before diving in and buying an RNS.  If you don't get a great signal - then swap it for a standard RNS.

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z92/p3eps/IMAG0063.jpg)
Title: Re: Will I loose my DAB radio ?
Post by: mortygt140 on 10 October 2009, 15:09
Just looking on ETKA and that doesn't show a difference in units and theres an external DAB unit that VW do,  but I was looking on a 2010 Golf so older units could be different??

Darren
Title: Re: Will I loose my DAB radio ?
Post by: mortygt140 on 10 October 2009, 15:12
Forgot to say the version c RNS510 2660 f/w has done away with DAB you carnt even select it in the options so I think VW have stopped doing it any way.

Darren
Title: Re: Will I loose my DAB radio ?
Post by: p3eps on 10 October 2009, 15:15
Forgot to say the version c RNS510 2660 f/w has done away with DAB you carnt even select it in the options so I think VW have stopped doing it any way.

Darren

Probably because it spends half its time cutting out as the signal is poop!
Title: Re: Will I loose my DAB radio ?
Post by: mac7 on 10 October 2009, 16:10
Forgot to say the version c RNS510 2660 f/w has done away with DAB you carnt even select it in the options so I think VW have stopped doing it any way.

Darren

Useful info there Darren - confirms what I'd read on vwnavi.com. So the DAB tuner used on the RCD510 is a separate module then?

The PIN diagram on my-gti is different to my one.

That diagram I linked to was for an RCD, not the RNS - maybe that's why they're different.

To be honest I hadn't realised there was more than one version of the RNS510 sat nav unit - or is it just firmware updates?
Title: Re: Will I loose my DAB radio ?
Post by: p3eps on 10 October 2009, 16:14
To be honest I hadn't realised there was more than one version of the RNS510 sat nav unit - or is it just firmware updates?

There are 3 versions so far - A, B and C.  Not sure if the hardware is different, or if its just software.  I know that my A-version is now on 2660 software - and has all the functionality of a C-version unit.  If you have an A-version unit with a hardware revision less than HW04 - then it can't take 32gb memory cards even with the latest FW - so there must be slight differences?
Title: Re: Will I loose my DAB radio ?
Post by: VWKev on 10 October 2009, 16:15
Not the greatest photo I know - but it was taken with my phone!
Here is my RNS510 A-version (which is currently living under my computer desk!).
The PIN diagram on my-gti is different to my one.  It still has all the connectors - apart from that No.1 - DAB aerial input... although they're in slightly different places.

Judging by this, it must mean that the DAB tuner is built into the RNS / RCD - and if this is the case, you won't be able to do a simple swap unless you buy an RNS that has DAB built in.  :sad:  I'd imagine this would only be available in version C units?

I'm not convinced by the DAB anyway, as the car I test drove with it didn't get a good signal hardly anywhere!  Perhaps you should test out your one Kev before diving in and buying an RNS.  If you don't get a great signal - then swap it for a standard RNS.

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z92/p3eps/IMAG0063.jpg)

Thanks P3eps, I'll give it a good test for sure.
Title: Re: Will I loose my DAB radio ?
Post by: mac7 on 10 October 2009, 16:25
Who remembers the good old days when you just chucked any old stereo in your car and it worked.  :grin:

I think I'll give DAB a miss and worry about it if they ever actually switch off FM.
Title: Re: Will I loose my DAB radio ?
Post by: VWKev on 10 October 2009, 16:31
I've got a portable DAB the same size as a personal radio, im off for a quick 10 min drive around to test.
Title: Re: Will I loose my DAB radio ?
Post by: VWKev on 10 October 2009, 19:20
Only lost reception twice, I went around Cambuslang, East Kilbride and around Rutherglen, Parkhead in Glasgow and it was fine, really crystal clear.

I really want to keep my DAB now, unless I can get it with the RNS510 I wont change from the RCD510.