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Title: Found a problem
Post by: T_J_G on 09 October 2009, 11:28
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/T_J_G/photo-7.jpg)

although I swear I've checked this hose a thousand times before. Maybe it was small and got bigger when tip was fitted.

Now here's the problem, there's none of those silicone replacement jobbies on ebay at the moment, I've messsaged the seller so I'll just have to leave it for now :(

Tim
Title: Re: Found a problem
Post by: topher on 09 October 2009, 11:35
the lugs for the dv and accumulator valve are in a slightly different place, so that pipe takes a bit of a stretch when reinstalled.. i checked it when we were done and it was flimsy but hole-free :grin: you'll be fine driving it like that until you get a replacement.. i bet half the aum owners on here have the same broken pipe and aren't even aware of it :laugh:
Title: Re: Found a problem
Post by: T_J_G on 09 October 2009, 11:38
the lugs for the dv and accumulator valve are in a slightly different place, so that pipe takes a bit of a stretch when reinstalled.. i checked it when we were done and it was flimsy but hole-free :grin: you'll be fine driving it like that until you get a replacement.. i bet half the aum owners on here have the same broken pipe and aren't even aware of it :laugh:

I thought you'd check it :). So basically this isn't the source of my problems?! Look by the PCV hoses and can't see no problems! N249 bypass soon me thinks. and maybe a new 007p.
Title: Re: Found a problem
Post by: Mr_Orange on 09 October 2009, 15:25
That old chestnut!  Think AUM drivers should keep a spare one of these in the glovebox.  Let us know if you source a silicon one from somewhere.
Title: Re: Found a problem
Post by: T_J_G on 09 October 2009, 15:26
well the guy said he's having a look round for one. Hopefully he finds one I'm eager to sort it!
Title: Re: Found a problem
Post by: Mr_Orange on 09 October 2009, 15:29
Is that the seller called volksbits?

According to receipts the hoses on ours are about a year old now, so think its time I found one of these too!   :grin:
Title: Re: Found a problem
Post by: ipswich1.8t on 09 October 2009, 15:42
i asked "volksbits" the other day about some pipes , and he also told me they were out of stock ...be a couple of weeks ke reckoned ..
Title: Re: Found a problem
Post by: T_J_G on 09 October 2009, 15:45
Is that the seller called volksbits?

According to receipts the hoses on ours are about a year old now, so think its time I found one of these too!   :grin:

When I get an answer I'll buy two then one for you! Yeah it's volksbits, was going to buy one ages ago and wish I had now!
Title: Re: Found a problem
Post by: Stronz on 09 October 2009, 15:48
Can you give him a nudge to see if the lower breather pipes are ready? I broke mine replacing that top breather pipe so mine is taped up at the moment.

I still seem to be loosing power somewhere though. Might have to take a visit to R-Tech.
Title: Re: Found a problem
Post by: Wazzzer on 09 October 2009, 15:57
all you AUM boys with your inferior breather pipes :grin:

I don't think my replacement bilge pump pipe is gonna rot any time soon though  :shocked:
Title: Re: Found a problem
Post by: T_J_G on 09 October 2009, 18:16
Can you give him a nudge to see if the lower breather pipes are ready? I broke mine replacing that top breather pipe so mine is taped up at the moment.

I still seem to be loosing power somewhere though. Might have to take a visit to R-Tech.

Is yours mapped yet? Can take you out in mine at some point!
Title: Re: Found a problem
Post by: Stronz on 09 October 2009, 18:43
Sounds like a plan. I keep meaning to come to brands too. Perhaps we can combine the two. First Wednesday of every month isn't it?
Title: Re: Found a problem
Post by: northeast_gti-t on 09 October 2009, 19:17
good spot that tim  :laugh: least hopefully you'll get it sorted soon replaced mine not long ago in a worst state than yours  :grin: how much does eveything move in relation to the std tip openings with the forge one fitted  :huh: as i have my tip to fit  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Found a problem
Post by: T_J_G on 09 October 2009, 19:59
Sounds like a plan. I keep meaning to come to brands too. Perhaps we can combine the two. First Wednesday of every month isn't it?

Last wednesday of every month! Next one not for a while :(

I'll get a picture for you tomorow matt, but not a lot
of movement.
Title: Re: Found a problem
Post by: topher on 09 October 2009, 20:34
have you tried direct from the supplier? http://www.creationsmotorsport.com/index.php?cmd=showProducts&id=19

Title: Re: Found a problem
Post by: northeast_gti-t on 09 October 2009, 20:48
Sounds like a plan. I keep meaning to come to brands too. Perhaps we can combine the two. First Wednesday of every month isn't it?

Last wednesday of every month! Next one not for a while :(

I'll get a picture for you tomorow matt, but not a lot
of movement.
cheers tim :afro: tho not looking forward to fitting it from what i'v seen!! just want it on tho how you finding yours tim?
Title: Re: Found a problem
Post by: T_J_G on 09 October 2009, 21:05
I'm not sure mate, as I had exhast and the new map as well. I'm sure it makes a difference, have you seen the standard tip?
Title: Re: Found a problem
Post by: northeast_gti-t on 09 October 2009, 21:32
I'm not sure mate, as I had exhast and the new map as well. I'm sure it makes a difference, have you seen the standard tip?
from what i have read its a worthy upgrade yes had a look at your pics thats more or less what made my mind up and searched last night and found a video (as an example audi tt tip) std and it showed how it tried to suck itself in under hard boost  :shocked: went in by about 1" was defo convinced then that upgrade needed lol
Title: Re: Found a problem
Post by: Grand Master Patch on 09 October 2009, 21:44
I'm not sure mate, as I had exhast and the new map as well. I'm sure it makes a difference, have you seen the standard tip?
from what i have read its a worthy upgrade yes had a look at your pics thats more or less what made my mind up and searched last night and found a video (as an example audi tt tip) std and it showed how it tried to suck itself in under hard boost  :shocked: went in by about 1" was defo convinced then that upgrade needed lol

I've found that the forge tip is easier to squeeze than the std tip,i very much doubt they are any stronger tbh.
Title: Re: Found a problem
Post by: northeast_gti-t on 09 October 2009, 21:51
I'm not sure mate, as I had exhast and the new map as well. I'm sure it makes a difference, have you seen the standard tip?
from what i have read its a worthy upgrade yes had a look at your pics thats more or less what made my mind up and searched last night and found a video (as an example audi tt tip) std and it showed how it tried to suck itself in under hard boost  :shocked: went in by about 1" was defo convinced then that upgrade needed lol

I've found that the forge tip is easier to squeeze than the std tip,i very much doubt they are any stronger tbh.
its not stronger as such patch although the silicone is a better material  it was the fact that the std tip pipe tried to draw into itself when real hot and hard boost
Title: Re: Found a problem
Post by: northeast_gti-t on 09 October 2009, 21:54
have a look at this http://www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/media/intake.mpg
 :shocked:
Title: Re: Found a problem
Post by: Mr_Orange on 10 October 2009, 10:51
have a look at this http://www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/media/intake.mpg
 :shocked:

Yowzer!   :shocked: 

Is this only a possible problem on a mapped engine?  Likely to happen with standard?
Title: Re: Found a problem
Post by: Grand Master Patch on 10 October 2009, 11:03
I'm not sure mate, as I had exhast and the new map as well. I'm sure it makes a difference, have you seen the standard tip?
from what i have read its a worthy upgrade yes had a look at your pics thats more or less what made my mind up and searched last night and found a video (as an example audi tt tip) std and it showed how it tried to suck itself in under hard boost  :shocked: went in by about 1" was defo convinced then that upgrade needed lol

I've found that the forge tip is easier to squeeze than the std tip,i very much doubt they are any stronger tbh.
its not stronger as such patch although the silicone is a better material  it was the fact that the std tip pipe tried to draw into itself when real hot and hard boost


My under standing is that the forge tip has a bigger intake area and allows more air flow and creating less vacuum.If the forge silicone pipe was fitted to the std lower tip,i suspect the same thing would happen.
Title: Re: Found a problem
Post by: Wazzzer on 10 October 2009, 12:31
My THS TIP is solid at the bottom bend, I think it must have a metal lining in the silicone walls as I can bend it out of shape and it stays there
Title: Re: Found a problem
Post by: T_J_G on 10 October 2009, 14:10
Standard TIP, turbo end:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/T_J_G/photo-16.jpg)

Really is quite small inlet to the turbo, hard to see in the picture.
Title: Re: Found a problem
Post by: Grand Master Patch on 11 October 2009, 19:16
Standard TIP, turbo end:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/T_J_G/photo-16.jpg)

Really is quite small inlet to the turbo, hard to see in the picture.

This is the reason the pipe collapsed in the video,the air being sucked through that pancake part will be creating a high vacuum,the forge kit has a bigger opening so less vacuum is created.It has nothing to do with quality of the silicone imo.
Title: Re: Found a problem
Post by: northeast_gti-t on 11 October 2009, 20:47
agree with you about that  :wink: although silicone is a much more resilient material over rubber as its put together with several overlapped layers hence why most engine bay products for boost or coolant pipes are silicone manufactured maybe more expensive than std oem rubber pipes but will last far longer
Title: Re: Found a problem
Post by: Rhyso on 11 October 2009, 20:50
agree with you about that  :wink: although silicone is a much more resilient material over rubber as its put together with several overlapped layers hence why most engine bay products for boost or coolant pipes are silicone manufactured maybe more expensive than std oem rubber pipes but will last far longer

only if its manufactured tidily - my SFS hose is falling apart..........
Title: Re: Found a problem
Post by: northeast_gti-t on 11 October 2009, 22:23
agree with you about that  :wink: although silicone is a much more resilient material over rubber as its put together with several overlapped layers hence why most engine bay products for boost or coolant pipes are silicone manufactured maybe more expensive than std oem rubber pipes but will last far longer

only if its manufactured tidily - my SFS hose is falling apart..........
:sad: mmm true  :lipsrsealed: