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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: p3asa on 06 October 2009, 22:58
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Anyone any problems with their RCD510 sort of jumping.
Listening to the ipod, when a song comes to the end and a new one starts, the new one seems to play for a second and then restart itself.
It doesn't happen if I am forwarding to a new song.
Anyone else got similar issues?
On a side note, The RCD510 sounds absolutely fantastic. No distortion for me at all up at 3/4 full volume.
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i have had this via my ipod too, sometimes it jumps. its not all the time, only every now and then. i put it down to the ipod being apple cr@p :smiley:
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Occasionally happens with my iPod Classic/RCD510 too.
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I also have this problem again down to ipod i think. another thing tho, if a song is playing and another one starts does it not display the new song title and keeps the old one on the screen but plays the next song ?? this happens for me all the time
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On a side note, The RCD510 sounds absolutely fantastic. No distortion for me at all up at 3/4 full volume.
I agree. I sometimes find it hard to imagine how the Dynaudio package could sound all that better, but I've never heard it, so maybe it does?
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I also have this problem again down to ipod i think. another thing tho, if a song is playing and another one starts does it not display the new song title and keeps the old one on the screen but plays the next song ?? this happens for me all the time
that also happens to me, glad its not just me. its quite annoying but i'm guessing its the ipod?
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any of you guys have select the DAB radio as an option ?
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any of you guys have select the DAB radio as an option ?
no i don't have it on mine, although i probably should have as i tend to listen to the radio on the way in to work most mornings.
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any of you guys have select the DAB radio as an option ?
no i don't have it on mine, although i probably should have as i tend to listen to the radio on the way in to work most mornings.
Yeah me too, I was just thinking though that it may be jumping etc as the DAB and iPod connector is not meant to be compatable. What you have said as sorted that theory out though. :smiley:
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no i don't have it on mine, although i probably should have as i tend to listen to the radio on the way in to work most mornings.
I'm the same, and was seriously considering it - but after having the demo GTD for a few hours which had it - I realised that it'd be aterrible waste of money as it spends most of the time cutting out due to lack of signal!
The GTD had Dynaudio, and the GTI didn't - and there is definately a BIG difference thats worth paying for... especially with high volume ROCK!
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there is definately a BIG difference thats worth paying for...
defo, its well worth the money for the upgrade!
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Thanks for the feedback folks.
Probably jumping was the wrong terminology to use.
What I have sussed today is if you press next to go to the next track, it never "jumps". However if you let the RCD510 change from one track to the next naturally it seems to start playing the new track, then it mutes for a split second and then recommences.
It's quite annoying especially if the track starts loudly. Its obviously not noticeable if the track fades in.
It doesn't seem to do it in "Scan" mode.
I might burn myself some cut down tracks of 15 seconds or so so I can demonstrate it to the garage, but I doubt I'll get anywhere as it seems to be a common feature :cry:
Back on to Dynaudio, it must be out of this world. I wouldn't mind hearing one to compare. I'm not doubting that it, but the factory set up is fantastic on its own.
Steven.
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I might burn myself some cut down tracks of 15 seconds or so so I can demonstrate it to the garage, but I doubt I'll get anywhere as it seems to be a common feature :cry:
I would also try making some tracks with a lower bit-rate on your iPod and see if they still jump when you try playing a couple of 128bit songs in a row. Perhaps if they are a higher bitrate (bigger files) the RCD takes a few seconds to buffer / load them?
Worth a go for the 5 mins it'll take.
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I have my mp3 music ripped at 256kbps, so might try re-ripping some music at a lower bitrate. I'm also very pleased with the RCD510/Dynaudio package. Expensive, yes, but it makes those long motorway journeys almost bearable. I'm a little disappointed with GALA though - even at its highest setting it seems to make very little difference to the volume as the speed/ambient noise level increases. Anyone else found this?
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My 310 with ipod jumps too. I'm used to it now as it's on all the time so doesn't bother me. But the fact that it does it with the 310 and the 510 suggests it's the ipod itself.
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Can I just ask, what iPod's are you using ?
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hmmm my iPhone or the shuffle does not skip or have a lag when playing. Both devices seem fine to me playing on RNS310... It has been on all the time...
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I'm not noticing this at all with my iPod nano 3. I'd be blazing mad if it was happening, because all my music is long works split into tracks by the CD compilers. Often the track splits are entirely arbitrary, because the music is continuous for an hour or more.
If it couldn't go seamlessly from track to track, I'd go ballistic.
310, by the way.
Rolfe.
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Ok, might be good to keep a track record.
Not Jumping
iPhone
Shuffle
Nano 3rd Gen
Jumping
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Also, the guys with their ipods jumping, have you updated or are you running the latest update/firmware on them ?
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Good call Kev, I was about to do something similar.
We have about 8 ipods in the house, with I think 5 different versions so I'm going out to test them just now.
It definitely can't be the bit rate, as I have a server I put all our music on, which the kids use for their ipods and so far my ipod has jumped whereas my sons hasn't, with the same tracks!!
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Good call Kev, I was about to do something similar.
We have about 8 ipods in the house, with I think 5 different versions so I'm going out to test them just now.
It definitely can't be the bit rate, as I have a server I put all our music on, which the kids use for their ipods and so far my ipod has jumped whereas my sons hasn't, with the same tracks!!
Good man, let us know.
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I have this same issue with my iphone (linked to RCD510), doesn't happen all the time but it's like a stutter when the track first starts. I also get the "This accessory is not compatible with the iphone message" virtually every time I plug it in but it still works regardless.
I thought it might be something to do with the communication between the iphone and the head unit, like the track name data but on the way home from work today on the train I had this for the first time through the headphones, suggesting its a fault with the iphone not the head unit in the car- it happened whilst opening an app (safari) so perhaps it's resource / processor related?
Also, the sound quality is noticeably 'thin' from the iphone compared to SD card / CD - but that might be down to the low bit-rate or equalizer settings.
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I have this same issue with my iphone (linked to RCD510), doesn't happen all the time but it's like a stutter when the track first starts. I also get the "This accessory is not compatible with the iphone message" virtually every time I plug it in but it still works regardless.
I thought it might be something to do with the communication between the iphone and the head unit, like the track name data but on the way home from work today on the train I had this for the first time through the headphones, suggesting its a fault with the iphone not the head unit in the car- it happened whilst opening an app (safari) so perhaps it's resource / processor related?
Also, the sound quality is noticeably 'thin' from the iphone compared to SD card / CD - but that might be down to the low bit-rate or equalizer settings.
50/50 so far then on iPhone.
Could I ask if you have auto lock set to never on your iPhone ?
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I have this same issue with my iphone (linked to RCD510), doesn't happen all the time but it's like a stutter when the track first starts. I also get the "This accessory is not compatible with the iphone message" virtually every time I plug it in but it still works regardless.
I thought it might be something to do with the communication between the iphone and the head unit, like the track name data but on the way home from work today on the train I had this for the first time through the headphones, suggesting its a fault with the iphone not the head unit in the car- it happened whilst opening an app (safari) so perhaps it's resource / processor related?
Also, the sound quality is noticeably 'thin' from the iphone compared to SD card / CD - but that might be down to the low bit-rate or equalizer settings.
50/50 so far then on iPhone.
Could I ask if you have auto lock set to never on your iPhone ?
Just checked - set to 1 minute - does this make a difference?
If I unlock the iphone whilst plugged in the head unit goes into phone mode and mutes the audio temporarily until it realises that I'm not about to make a call - but I don't think that's it.
The stuttering is a bit like it's having data flow issues, a bit like the streaming / buffering problems you get whilst trying to stream audio over a slow connection - it only lasts for split second and then the track plays normally.
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I have this same issue with my iphone (linked to RCD510), doesn't happen all the time but it's like a stutter when the track first starts. I also get the "This accessory is not compatible with the iphone message" virtually every time I plug it in but it still works regardless.
I thought it might be something to do with the communication between the iphone and the head unit, like the track name data but on the way home from work today on the train I had this for the first time through the headphones, suggesting its a fault with the iphone not the head unit in the car- it happened whilst opening an app (safari) so perhaps it's resource / processor related?
Also, the sound quality is noticeably 'thin' from the iphone compared to SD card / CD - but that might be down to the low bit-rate or equalizer settings.
50/50 so far then on iPhone.
Could I ask if you have auto lock set to never on your iPhone ?
Just checked - set to 1 minute - does this make a difference?
If I unlock the iphone whilst plugged in the head unit goes into phone mode and mutes the audio temporarily until it realises that I'm not about to make a call - but I don't think that's it.
The stuttering is a bit like it's having data flow issues, a bit like the streaming / buffering problems you get whilst trying to stream audio over a slow connection - it only lasts for split second and then the track plays normally.
do me a fav, set it to never, completely turn off the phone then back on and try it again.
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Can I just ask, what iPod's are you using ?
3rd gen nano dude - it doesn't jump all the time but does sometimes. also sometimes like previously stated when it goes to the next song the screen still shows the previous song.
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I do notice there's a bit of a lag before the title of the next track comes up, but I haven't noticed this stutter at all.
I did reset the iPod and reload the playlists before I gave it to the GTi for its very own to play with though! :cool:
Rolfe.
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Can I just ask, what iPod's are you using ?
3rd gen nano dude - it doesn't jump all the time but does sometimes. also sometimes like previously stated when it goes to the next song the screen still shows the previous song.
Cheers bud, oh well then that puts that to bed aswel then, no pattern to it at all. As weve had one iphone working and one not, one 3rd gen nano working and yours not.
Has to be something with the RNS/RCD's then ?
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Hi,
My thoughts are that the iPhone is just like a computer... If it has applications running in the background that requires memory resources then there will be some lag. Or when you just plug it in, it will try to ascertain several things like whether the accesory you are plugging it into is compatible etc, also whether you wish to switch off the phone etc. So my advice is that you switch off all other applications and wait till its properly connected to the radio...
Let me know how it goes!
Cheers!
HM
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Maybe down to the FW's on the RCD /RNS's?
Also... there is a setting in itunes that makes your music have no pause between tracks (I can't find it just now as I don't have an iPod plugged in!). I wonder if this makes any difference?
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Ok here is what I've found so far:
Ipod 5th Gen (known as Video) Jumps
Ipod Touch 2nd Gen Jumps (happens with both touch's wee have)
Ipod Nano 2nd Gen Jumps ever so subtly. Its hardly noticeable but if the following track starts off loud then its just noticeable and no more.
Ipod Nano 4th Gen Doesn't Jump (the tracks can sometimes stick and not move on in the display though)
Ipod Nano 4th Gen Jumped for the first couple of songs then was absolutely fine (no sign of the tracks display sticking)
I can't find my ipod mini :cry:
Here is the strange thing, on the ipods that jump if I select SCAN on the RCD510, it will play the first 10 seconds of each song and and not once does it jump, yet if I play those same songs in their entirety they will jump. Which to me suggests the RCD510 rather than the ipod??
Anyone ?
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Maybe down to the FW's on the RCD /RNS's?
Also... there is a setting in itunes that makes your music have no pause between tracks (I can't find it just now as I don't have an iPod plugged in!). I wonder if this makes any difference?
Its meant to be on by default but even although it shows how to make it gapless here http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1797 (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1797) I can't find those settings in iTunes.
Another idea I thought it may be was the soundcheck setting, but mine all appear to be off :sad:
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Mine's a 3rd gen Nano and it jumps on some but not all. This fits in with what's been said on this thread.
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Mine's a 3rd gen nano and I've never heard it do it.
Rolfe.
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Mine's a 3rd gen Nano and it jumps on some but not all. This fits in with what's been said on this thread.
Which is a lot of different theories :smiley:
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Any folk who recently got their cars noticed the jumping / muting at the beginning of the next track or noticed their song details not updating?
What I found interesting the other day was if I put a song on repeat, it wouldn't jump / mute yet it would if it was on normal play!!
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My 310 does this too, it's not the iPod as this worked fine in my mk5 and also works fine in my OH Eos.
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Yeah my i touch worked fine in my old car with an ipod adaptor but if it was the stereo you would imagine it would be the same for any ipod! But the two 4th Gen Nano's I tried were fine!!
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OK, just tried my OH's iPod in my mk6. Still does it.
So for me 2 iPods do the same imy mk6 with RCD310.
Both iPods are perfect in the Eos 510.
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My ipod tracks stick on the display constantly, does on 3 diff ipods and with the rcd310 and now my rns510. I really dont know what causes this but my stealers are going to check it out
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As I said earlier, I have a 3rd gen nano 8Gb permanently plugged into my 310, and it's never done this. I tried my other (identical) iPod when I was setting it up and it didn't do it either.
Rolfe.
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Confused.
I can't find anything on the mk5 forum, two iPods do this in my car but not other VWs (mk5 and Eos).
Trip to the dealer I think....
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Aidy06 & GolfTi what ipods are you using?
I just think if I took my stereo back then they would maybe try one of their mechanics ipods and depending on the model, it may very well work as I have already stated earlier in this thread, my kids ipods don't jump but the track names stick.
I'd like to think it was the stereo but it maybe be ipod dependant. It certainly is with the 7 I have tried.
I'm just back on a 200 mile round trip to Dundee so had plenty of time to mess about and listen to the stereo. The iTouch definitely goes mute for a second or so rather than jump. Songs that start off singing straight were really evident and were missing the 2nd word or so. For example my Mrs had her Duran Duran album on and the song "Is there something I should know" which starts "Please Please tell me now", had the 2nd "please" missing as if it had been muted rather than jumped.
If you guys are taking yours back, can you keep me updated with the outcome?
Cheers.
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I have a nano pal, the track names just stick on mine. They did it on my rcd310 and my recently fitted rns510 so its definately not the stereo, my cars at stealers now for this and various other problems so will let you know what they say mate
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Mrs had her Duran Duran album on and the song "Is there something I should know" which starts "Please Please tell me now"
Sorry p3asa "Duran Duran" is that something you should devulge to the rest of the forum? :grin:
Who am I to talk, here I am copying The Proclaimers and Celine Dion to a SD card for playing on the RCD510 for my Mrs. :tongue: :laugh:
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I have a nano pal, the track names just stick on mine. They did it on my rcd310 and my recently fitted rns510 so its definately not the stereo, my cars at stealers now for this and various other problems so will let you know what they say mate
Cheers Aidy. Just read your reply in mkivs forum.
Yeah it is the 2 Nano's that the track names stick on mine and both touches that "mute".
Good luck with it.
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Sorry p3asa "Duran Duran" is that something you should devulge to the rest of the forum? :grin:
Who am I to talk, here I am copying The Proclaimers and Celine Dion to a SD card for playing on the RCD510 for my Mrs. :tongue: :laugh:
Hey, why do you think I said it was my Mrs :laugh:
But it was a good song to desribe it as the song starts with singing, honest guv :grin:
.......And yes, you can talk, Celine Dion!!! Don't for god sake drive and listen to her at the same unless you have the Samaritans on loudspeaker :evil:
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.......And yes, you can talk, Celine Dion!!! Don't for god sake drive and listen to her at the same unless you have the Samaritans on loudspeaker :evil:
Just as well I didn't mention the other albums I am ripping at the moment. Bon Jovi, ABBA, Beautiful South and the Osmonds :sick:
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Thought I'd do a bit of testing before I go to the dealers, I have a RCD 310 with 4G nano but it has the same issue.
I noticed my iTunes collection was a mix of mp3 (various rates) and AAC format.
I have converted my whole iTunes library to AAC 256 and transferred to my ipod - the problem seems to have all but disappeared.
Just done a test with about 15 songs on random play, seems OK. I may have heard one track stutter but I'm not sure
No idea why, just thought I'd share this to see if anyone might know the reasons why. Maybe someone else could do a quick test to prove or disprove this?
Edit: I meant AAC 128 not AAC 256.
Will monitor this week and let you all know of any problems.
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Who am I to talk, here I am copying The Proclaimers and Celine Dion to a SD card for playing on the RCD510 for my Mrs. :tongue: :laugh:
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I quite like both the Proclaimers and Celine Dion! so there's nothing wrong in that mate,
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Thought I'd do a bit of testing before I go to the dealers, I have a RCD 310 with 4G nano but it has the same issue.
I noticed my iTunes collection was a mix of mp3 (various rates) and AAC format.
I have converted my whole iTunes library to AAC 256 and transferred to my ipod - the problem seems to have all but disappeared.
Just done a test with about 15 songs on random play, seems OK. I may have heard one track stutter but I'm not sure
No idea why, just thought I'd share this to see if anyone might know the reasons why. Maybe someone else could do a quick test to prove or disprove this?
Edit: I meant AAC 128 not AAC 256.
Will monitor this week and let you all know of any problems.
That is interesting. So you converted them to AAC 128 and the muting has all but gone?
Can I ask if it has deteriorated the quality of the audio and what program you used to convert?
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Watch this space.
I've not had much time to test properly recently, it seems OK but then every now and again I think maybe, maybe that track jumped. Problem is it never does it when you manually change tracks.
Still undecided.
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It also doesn't do it if you have it on repeat!
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I don't have any mp3s. All my files are either iTunes purchases or CDs converted with iTunes. m4ps, I think.
Never had this problem at all.
Rolfe.
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It does it on my itunes purchased tracks as well.
Still think it is ipod dependent.
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any of you guys have select the DAB radio as an option ?
no i don't have it on mine, although i probably should have as i tend to listen to the radio on the way in to work most mornings.
Yeah me too, I was just thinking though that it may be jumping etc as the DAB and iPod connector is not meant to be compatable. What you have said as sorted that theory out though. :smiley:
I was advised on build that the usb/ipod connector would be removed for DAB, not the case they are left now, DAB is FAB so clear. I only listen to Absolute Radio which is pants on AM.
No jumping from MY USB stick and the tracks play and show the right info all the time
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Also ment to say that USB sticks don't need charging.....
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Also ment to say that USB sticks don't need charging.....
The car charges the iPod while it's plugged in.
Rolfe.
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Also ment to say that USB sticks don't need charging.....
The car charges the iPod while it's plugged in.
Rolfe.
Ah did I mention they are cheap.. :rolleyes:
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Also ment to say that USB sticks don't need charging.....
The car charges the iPod while it's plugged in.
Rolfe.
Ah did I mention they are cheap.. :rolleyes:
Well, my car's iPod was lying round my desk being useless, because its screen was kaput. (I'd put it through the washing machine.) I wasn't using it at all, as I have an 8Gb memory stick already.
So you could say it was free. (Look on eBay for an iPod with a dud screen - probably very cheap. Works perfectly once the car's screen takes over the display.)
Rolfe.
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Also ment to say that USB sticks don't need charging.....
The car charges the iPod while it's plugged in.
Rolfe.
Ah did I mention they are cheap.. :rolleyes:
Well, my car's iPod was lying round my desk being useless, because its screen was kaput. (I'd put it through the washing machine.) I wasn't using it at all, as I have an 8Gb memory stick already.
So you could say it was free. (Look on eBay for an iPod with a dud screen - probably very cheap. Works perfectly once the car's screen takes over the display.)
Rolfe.
Not to get 1 over you :rolleyes: and they are small :nerd:
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Also ment to say that USB sticks don't need charging.....
The car charges the iPod while it's plugged in.
Rolfe.
Ah did I mention they are cheap.. :rolleyes:
Well, my car's iPod was lying round my desk being useless, because its screen was kaput. (I'd put it through the washing machine.) I wasn't using it at all, as I have an 8Gb memory stick already.
So you could say it was free. (Look on eBay for an iPod with a dud screen - probably very cheap. Works perfectly once the car's screen takes over the display.)
Rolfe.
Not to get 1 over you :rolleyes: and they are small :nerd:
Volume for volume, I suspect there's not much in it. I refuse to immerse an iPod in water again just to check it.
Rolfe.
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Thought I'd do a bit of testing before I go to the dealers, I have a RCD 310 with 4G nano but it has the same issue.
I noticed my iTunes collection was a mix of mp3 (various rates) and AAC format.
I have converted my whole iTunes library to AAC 256 and transferred to my ipod - the problem seems to have all but disappeared.
Just done a test with about 15 songs on random play, seems OK. I may have heard one track stutter but I'm not sure
No idea why, just thought I'd share this to see if anyone might know the reasons why. Maybe someone else could do a quick test to prove or disprove this?
Edit: I meant AAC 128 not AAC 256.
Will monitor this week and let you all know of any problems.
Thought that might have solved the problem, but no!!
I converted about a dozen tracks to AAC and put them all in the same playlist, it was exactly the same as before, it would play for a second and then mute momentarily!!!
I'm not having much luck with the sounds just now. My kids are getting the new ipods for Xmas so I'll try them out but in the meantime I might email VW about that and the SD card problems.
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Test drove a MK6 Golf yesterday which I decided not to buy (sticking to my MK3 VR6 for many many reasons!). My iPod plays totally fine on an iPod docking station (not made by apple) and also on the radio in my MK3 Golf - but on the MK6 I test drove it skipped at the start of most tracks - very annoying!!
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Anyone else who had issues with this, any further forward in a fix?
It was mentioned in another forum that the muting happens when the display is changing name from one track to another.
This got me thinking about my sons ipod nano which sometimes doesn't update the display, I'm sure it also doesn't mute the start of the next track when this happens. Hopefully I will check this out tomorrow.
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Anyone else who had issues with this, any further forward in a fix?
It was mentioned in another forum that the muting happens when the display is changing name from one track to another.
This got me thinking about my sons ipod nano which sometimes doesn't update the display, I'm sure it also doesn't mute the start of the next track when this happens. Hopefully I will check this out tomorrow.
My fix was to change to a Sony Walkman - works perfectly, I also tried a usb stick but this wasn't always recognised (probably due to lack of battery).
After spending ages changing file types, settings and compression rates on the iPod I gave up. Dealer couldn't find a fault.
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My fix was to change to a Sony Walkman - works perfectly, I also tried a usb stick but this wasn't always recognised (probably due to lack of battery).
After spending ages changing file types, settings and compression rates on the iPod I gave up. Dealer couldn't find a fault.
Thanks.
I've been using a hard drive with no problems but you can't really beat the way the ipod organises the files.
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It sounds like the RCD510 is in need of a firmware update. By the way, mine does this too.
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:angry: I can certainily relate to what your saying! I recently picked up my new mk6 GTI I was over the moon to find out it can with media input instead on that lesser aux input only. However I have started to have re occuring problems either the previous track title stays on when the next track is running or if I switch from radio mode to media it simply will not allow me (its says something like 'initializing') them after swiching backwards and forwards between radio and media the display comes up with 'no media/device found. I have taken the car back to the dealership that I bought it from but as always with intermitant faults, it doesn't do it when their watching!!!!!!!!!!
to say its becoming frustrating is only ticking me off all the more, Can anyone please help or else I will have to revert to carrying hundreds of CD's in the car which defeats having the media input.
thanks for any help, Damn Ipod cr*p
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I honestly have no issues with the multi media, 3 months down the line using the USB stick 8gb everyday nothing at all just good clear music (some might not like my taste) but its music :kiss: :grin: