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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: JackJack on 04 October 2009, 11:44

Title: Standard front brakes
Post by: JackJack on 04 October 2009, 11:44
"IF" I was to return my brakes back to standard (as they're whats causing me a whole lot of grief at the moment) what parts would I need?
I say this because I think it might be cheaper then getting a garage to order them in aswell as fitting.

So I'd need;

Discs

Pads

Calipers

...



Thanks, Jack  :smiley:
Title: Re: Standard front brakes
Post by: Wayne on 04 October 2009, 13:16
What have you got fitted at the moment.
Title: Re: Standard front brakes
Post by: JackJack on 04 October 2009, 13:18
The garage up the road think they're tt brakes. They're the reason i can fit my 2 front wheels (offset 35)
Title: Re: Standard front brakes
Post by: christomk3gti on 04 October 2009, 13:26
You maybe having the same problem i have.

Measure your disc, is it 288mm? I had to put 10mm spacers on (probably could have gotten 5mm spacers, but as i was given the 10mm spacers with my wheels, i used them) and there fine now. The rear wheels go on fine without spacers. My spokes on my Azev A rims were touching the caliper hense why it needed spacers  :sad:

You've probably got the bigger brakes like me on my 8v.
Title: Re: Standard front brakes
Post by: Wayne on 04 October 2009, 14:54
Later cars were 288mm set up, and I had no issues with et35 fitting over them.
Title: Re: Standard front brakes
Post by: JackJack on 04 October 2009, 16:06
You maybe having the same problem i have.

Measure your disc, is it 288mm? I had to put 10mm spacers on (probably could have gotten 5mm spacers, but as i was given the 10mm spacers with my wheels, i used them) and there fine now. The rear wheels go on fine without spacers. My spokes on my Azev A rims were touching the caliper hense why it needed spacers  :sad:

You've probably got the bigger brakes like me on my 8v.
Yes I've been following what's been going on with your wheels as it's near enough the same problem.
I.e the rear wheels fit fine whereas the front calipers are catching.
But I've been looking into returning them to standard as the disks and pads are worn out anyway?
Title: Re: Standard front brakes
Post by: Wayne on 04 October 2009, 19:47
Post up some pictures of the brakes.
Title: Re: Standard front brakes
Post by: JackJack on 04 October 2009, 19:55
Ha I would but the wheel brace snapped the other day. Ill take one tomorrow morning through the alloy if thats any good?  :smiley:
Title: Re: Standard front brakes
Post by: JackJack on 08 October 2009, 21:27
Right, booked the car into a garage to have a proper look at the brakes.

Turns out they're completely standard apart from performance disks and pads. So I don't understand how my alloys of ET35 won't fit?  :sad:

So now I've ordered some hubcentric (sp) spacers with longer wheel bolts.

Hmm...  :angry:
Title: Re: Standard front brakes
Post by: Wayne on 08 October 2009, 21:54
I would guess your alloys might not be et35.
Title: Re: Standard front brakes
Post by: JackJack on 08 October 2009, 22:24
Rears fit though? I'll be in touch with the company I bought the alloys from.
Title: Re: Standard front brakes
Post by: Matty-MK3 on 08 October 2009, 23:13
Spacers?

:undecided:
Title: Re: Standard front brakes
Post by: Wayne on 08 October 2009, 23:35
The issue with running spacers is that you could run into arch clearance probs on the front.
Title: Re: Standard front brakes
Post by: JackJack on 09 October 2009, 11:13
I suppose spacers is the only route I can go at the moment.
I can't take the alloys off and replace them with the cracked ones as no where will do that.  :sad:
I need the car daily so I cant afford to send the alloys back and wait for a new pair.
Title: Re: Standard front brakes
Post by: JackJack on 09 October 2009, 16:26
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b87/jackguild69/IMG_0490.jpg)

Just to show that the wheels say they're ET35. Sorry about the quality (mobile phone camera)
Title: Re: Standard front brakes
Post by: christomk3gti on 09 October 2009, 16:36
Question....

If the wheels are ET35... could the shape of the wheel spokes cause a problem if running on the bigger 288mm brakes???

Could this be a case???
Title: Re: Standard front brakes
Post by: JackJack on 09 October 2009, 16:40
Possibly? Though I've seen quite a few on rs4 style alloys?
Title: Re: Standard front brakes
Post by: christomk3gti on 09 October 2009, 16:57
afew people run them with no issues.... r u sure its the correct offset.... hmm
Title: Re: Standard front brakes
Post by: Wayne on 09 October 2009, 17:08
afew people run them with no issues.... r u sure its the correct offset.... hmm

+1 I ran et35 all ok with no issues.
Title: Re: Standard front brakes
Post by: JackJack on 09 October 2009, 17:09
I assume they are unless the company I bought them from has made a mistake?
Title: Re: Standard front brakes
Post by: Mikester on 09 October 2009, 18:27
I reckon its a case of the rear of the spokes.

Like with mk3 and mk4 RX11's.

With standard alloys on my 288mm brakes there is next to no clearance, and i mean no more than 1-2mm.

So with these allloys having rather chunky spokes i reckon thats your problem.

Stick some 5mm spacers on, that dont need to be hubcentric or longer bolts, and you should be ok.
Title: Re: Standard front brakes
Post by: JackJack on 09 October 2009, 18:41
Yep, my spacers were dispatched today so hopefully on Monday I'll have them and be able to have them fitted.
This has annoyed me so much over the last few weeks I hope to God this solves it!!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Standard front brakes
Post by: Mikester on 09 October 2009, 18:44
What spacers have you gone for?

You said hubcentric which emplies you have gone for big spacers.

Which as wayne said will give you arch clearance problems if lowered, and maybe if not lowered.
Title: Re: Standard front brakes
Post by: JackJack on 09 October 2009, 18:46
I don't plan on lowering it anytime soon (insurance) but if I do it'll only be 30-40mm really. They're 16mm spacers.
Title: Re: Standard front brakes
Post by: Mikester on 09 October 2009, 18:47
16mm isnt too bad, 8mm each side.

I have 5mm each side :)
Title: Re: Standard front brakes
Post by: Wayne on 09 October 2009, 19:10
I don't plan on lowering it anytime soon (insurance) but if I do it'll only be 30-40mm really. They're 16mm spacers.

Is that 16mm or 8mm each as 16mm will leave the offset really low.
Title: Re: Standard front brakes
Post by: JackJack on 09 October 2009, 19:21
Well I've been told id need about 1/2 - 3/4 inch sized spacer so...
Title: Re: Standard front brakes
Post by: VR6-Joe on 09 October 2009, 23:15
You'd only need 5mm per side / 10mm in total

Although whatever you go for, make sure you buy some for the rear aswell.

I can't stand cars that have the front wheels sticking out more than the rear!
Title: Re: Standard front brakes
Post by: Wayne on 09 October 2009, 23:28
You'd only need 5mm per side / 10mm in total

Although whatever you go for, make sure you buy some for the rear aswell.

I can't stand cars that have the front wheels sticking out more than the rear!

+1, go wider on the back