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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: bruin3182 on 02 October 2009, 09:49
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I have had Lifeshine put on my new GTI from the dealership - I am really pleased with it! Although since having it - I have heard a lot of adverse comments regarding this.
Has anyone else had this put on and If so what are your thoughts??
I also have the pack containing all of the cleaning kits and polish..... there seems to be a lot in there and I'm wondering which is the best stuff to use in the pack....
I will probably still use my poorboys shampoo and not sure whether to use the "moosewax" caranuba wax I already have or the "Moosewax" handglaze???
Will this "moosewax" stuff strip off the lifeshine because I understand (having spoken to Autoglym) that their prodfucts are safe to use with the lifeshine and will not strip it! :tongue:
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Its not that the life shine is a bad kit... it just for that money there are much better products out there. Its a bit of a gimmick, but if your happy with it then.... well your happy with it :smiley:
Lots more good info on the detailing board :nerd:
There was also a good thread on hear about keeping your gti clean
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Glaze is used after polish, wax is an LSP :wink:
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Lifeshine is for lazies who aren't bothered about regular upkeep - given your other potions i'm surprised you bothered with Lifeshine at all - the products are £20 for the lot on ebay, the dealers charge a fortune for a few hours applying it.
I'm sure the carnauba will bond onto the Lifeshine, but it sort of defeats the object :undecided:
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i've had the supaguard put on my mk 5 and now mk 6 gti. i swore by it on the mk 5 - looked the nuts. however....on my mk 6 (and i'm fuming believe me) its been pointed out over the last week and indeed today by the professional who cleans my car that its f7cked. looking at it in the sun i can see it clearly. swirls all over the car. so word of warning to those of you who are getting it (and get it for free, do not pay £400!) - check its done properly! it looks awesome when done properly but proper sh1te when not! my dealer has just received a call to sort it asap....
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Let us know what they say/do. I'm having supaguard put on mine and I'm getting it from the same place you got yours too!!! :embarassed:
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Let us know what they say/do. I'm having supaguard put on mine and I'm getting it from the same place you got yours too!!! :embarassed:
believe me, they are going to reapply it, i will make sure of it. i'm absolutely livid about it, i'd read stories on here about how sh1t it can look on here, but now i've actually looked for myself in the sun i'm raging about how sh1t it is. like i say, on my mk 5 gti it had been applied properly and was awesome, the shine was like a mirror. i really should have checked this myself but everywhere i have been parking has been out of the sun so not noticed it. i'll let you know how i get on, he is calling me first thing monday when the dude that applies it is in. fortunately i have monday off work so i'm gonna push to get it sorted then. :angry:
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Let us know what they say/do. I'm having supaguard put on mine and I'm getting it from the same place you got yours too!!! :embarassed:
believe me, they are going to reapply it, i will make sure of it. i'm absolutely livid about it, i'd read stories on here about how sh1t it can look on here, but now i've actually looked for myself in the sun i'm raging about how sh1t it is. like i say, on my mk 5 gti it had been applied properly and was awesome, the shine was like a mirror. i really should have checked this myself but everywhere i have been parking has been out of the sun so not noticed it. i'll let you know how i get on, he is calling me first thing monday when the dude that applies it is in. fortunately i have monday off work so i'm gonna push to get it sorted then. :angry:
What colour is your car again mate ?
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What colour is your car again mate ?
black dude. so in the sun their f7ck up really shows up grrr!
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Sounds like the usual, apply with rotary polisher/buffer - dirt in the mop or too high speed = swirl heaven
Sorry to hear it mate- i rejected a black car for swirls, and that was just Autoglym polish for its PDI !
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What colour is your car again mate ?
black dude. so in the sun their f7ck up really shows up grrr!
Not good :sad: Hope you get it sorted.
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What colour is your car again mate ?
black dude. so in the sun their f7ck up really shows up grrr!
Not good :sad: Hope you get it sorted.
cheers mate :smiley:
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VW dealer = no clue. Average standards for the averange car buyer (i.e. low).
Car enthusiast = do it yourself or pay a specialist to do it properly.
That goes for detailing it, servicing it, repairing it.
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update for those interested, dealer didn't call me back on monday so i called him. its now booked in for next monday to get re-supaguarded. it had better be done right this time :angry:
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update for those interested, dealer didn't call me back on monday so i called him. its now booked in for next monday to get re-supaguarded. it had better be done right this time :angry:
Take before and after picture, would be good to see the difference.
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Take before and after picture, would be good to see the difference.
i'll try but unfortunately you can only see the swirls when the sun is shining on the car - and at the mo its p1ssing it down :sad:
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so, took my car in today and the dealer couldn't have been nicer - even gave me his gti as a courtesy car which saved my (non-existant) street cred from diminishing any further by having a fox! haven't been able to see if they did a better job this time as no sun to test it, however i will say it looked like a mirror and it may just be my mind playing tricks on me but it looked much better than when i first picked it up! only time will tell, the pro who cleans my car will give his expert opinion on it all on friday! fingers crossed! :laugh:
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They dont use a machine so they will have used a silicone based filler.
Give it a week and it will look awful again,
Wish people would read up on things first, you have paid them to ruin your paint!
Dont know how many times ive said this but
DONT GET LIFESHINE OR ANY OTHER DEALER BASED PAINT PROTECTION - ITS CRAP!
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DONT GET LIFESHINE OR ANY OTHER DEALER BASED PAINT PROTECTION - ITS CRAP!
What was that..? Didn't catch that :laugh:
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dude i didn't pay, i got it for free!! and if it looks cr@p i'll take it back until they do a proper job. then i'll get a professional to do it after that!
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They dont use a machine so they will have used a silicone based filler.
Give it a week and it will look awful again,
Wish people would read up on things first, you have paid them to ruin your paint!
Dont know how many times ive said this but
DONT GET LIFESHINE OR ANY OTHER DEALER BASED PAINT PROTECTION - ITS CRAP!
I'm really pleased with mine. I know the detailing guys don't like it but the Autoglym Lifeshine I had done is immaculate.
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They dont use a machine so they will have used a silicone based filler.
Give it a week and it will look awful again,
Wish people would read up on things first, you have paid them to ruin your paint!
Dont know how many times ive said this but
DONT GET LIFESHINE OR ANY OTHER DEALER BASED PAINT PROTECTION - ITS CRAP!
while i normally snigger at your posts. :grin: This is unfortunately the one thing I know you know what your talking about. p.s. that was a compliment.
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Matchboy - any update on this?
Part of the reason I'm getting it done is that I've gone for a leather interior. They tell me as part of the treatment, the leather gets some kind of covering that protects and feeds it, and they also treat all the mats/carpets etc with a stain protector (scotchguard I'm guessing)
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Its called leather conditioner and will last around 2 weeks (i do mine every two weeks)
I wouldnt let them pay me to put on paint protection! Old cloths, sponges and gritty pads :sick:
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Matchboy - any update on this?
Part of the reason I'm getting it done is that I've gone for a leather interior. They tell me as part of the treatment, the leather gets some kind of covering that protects and feeds it, and they also treat all the mats/carpets etc with a stain protector (scotchguard I'm guessing)
the inside appears to be fine, didn't have a problem with that. as for the outside it certainly looks like they have done a proper job this time. however i'm getting it checked on friday by the dude who does my car - i'll let you know what he says. i know some people don't like this supaguard but i do (if its done properly).
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Folks, I'm still undecided as to wither to go for the lifeshine or not. On searching the threads there still seems to be a lot of mixed reviews. I would be interested to know that those of us who are still waiting for our cars have made a decision yet.
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My decision is simple- i wont pay a dealer £300 to apply £20 of products to a new car and potentialy ruin the finish with additional buffing and rubbing. Having rejected a car for swirled paintwork the less contact the valetters have with my car the better.
I would also prefer to do my own car, its an opportunity to get up close n personal and inspect the paintwork properly.
Everyone is differnt - if its a lease car, do 20k miles a year and want to wash it once a month and never polish it then you are the ideal candidate for Lifeshine or Diamondbrite !
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My decision is simple- i wont pay a dealer £300 to apply £20 of products to a new car and potentialy ruin the finish with additional buffing and rubbing. Having rejected a car for swirled paintwork the less contact the valetters have with my car the better.
I would also prefer to do my own car, its an opportunity to get up close n personal and inspect the paintwork properly.
I was thinking along the same lines. When I bought a new SAAB a few years ago, the dealer told me to be careful with the paintwork for the first new months, to allow it to harden properly. (SAABS come with a clear lacquer on the top of the metallic paint). So I am leaning towards not letting anyone else near it, as I want to be the first one to get up close and personal......ummmmmm.......up close.......personal....hubba hubba..... :evil:
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As said eariler on in this thread, Lifeshine, Supagard etc are really only for people who dont clean there cars that often. It's never going to compete with a good properly applied wax.
The previous poster got it spot on saying that it's best to let other people have minimal contact with our cars. I know a few "valleters" at large dealerships who are still using sponges and chamoises on new cars. Most are paid very little, and have not had any sort of training in the art, so it is very unlikely that they are going to do the sort of job that we would be happy with.
If you are detailling your car yourself on a regular basis, you are more likely to spot any new defects and deal with them straight away. This would not be the case if you were only giving it a quick wash now and again beacause you were relying on the dealers treatment to protect the paint.
As for the cost of it. I know of many people who have had the treatment done when buying cars and said they have got it for free. However, the dealer has told them that he cannot discount the car any further, but will smear on products that should normally be charged out at £300 instead. Not exactly free then.
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^^^^ Thanks for that. It looks like I will go for protecting the paint myself. By searching the threads there are a lot of products recommended by members which I will take on board.
My only last concern is for protecting the cloth seats, I will need to do a search on that.
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The last BMW i bought i told them to just remove the cosmoline protective wax that its transported with, and not apply ppolish or wax. I was going to give it the full Zymol hit the day i collected it. The valletting guy was cursing as it was an absolute bu66er to remove without the normal petrochemical products they'd use.
At the same time i spotted their chamois leather draped over the top of the brick wall, and being jet washed - oh my God :angry: :angry: :cry: :cry:
My car was spotless in fairness - must have been lucky
At the time the valletting company were being paid £25 to prep a new car including removing all plastic and cardboard packaging ! The guys themselves must have been on less than a fiver an hour !
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My mate who works at the local Vauxhall dealership said they had some contract valleters in when they were getting behind.
These boys were doing 6 used cars a day, supposedly to a standard that they could be put on the front for sale. Needless to say, they were not asked to come back after the first day.
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Decided today to cancel my Supaguard, emailed my dealer to get it taken off the order. Hopefully won't be a problem
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Have decided as well not to take it. Going to polish and wax the car myself.
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The last BMW i bought i told them to just remove the cosmoline protective wax that its transported with, and not apply ppolish or wax. I was going to give it the full Zymol hit the day i collected it. The valletting guy was cursing as it was an absolute bu66er to remove without the normal petrochemical products they'd use.
At the same time i spotted their chamois leather draped over the top of the brick wall, and being jet washed - oh my God :angry: :angry: :cry: :cry:
My car was spotless in fairness - must have been lucky
At the time the valletting company were being paid £25 to prep a new car including removing all plastic and cardboard packaging ! The guys themselves must have been on less than a fiver an hour !
I had a similar incident when I collected my ED30 last year, it was in the showroom & I found some light scratches in the roof, about 2 or 3, looked like grit or something had been dragged across it........ :angry:
I did exactly the same thing, took it home, sorted the scratches myself & Zymol'd it. But is really isn't what you expect from a main dealer, but every car since I have really scrutinised. :nerd:
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If it was me spending £25k+ on a brand new GTI I would ask the dealer not to wash/clean it at all as part of the PDI so that the 'first wash' was done by me.
Has anyone ever done this?