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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: VWKev on 20 September 2009, 17:31
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Just talking with a friend of my misses there and she is a petrol station owner/manager (A supermarket one, wont say which). Got talking about our new car we have on order, after a long conversation about this and that, she mentioned that for petrol we need to stay away from supermarket petrol and only goto Esso, Shell, BP stations. Asked her why ?
The tankers that the supermarket stations use are often very dirty, the supermarkets do not add additives to their fuel either and hence are not very good quality at all. Shell etc all use clean tankers, clean fuel and is of a much better quality.
I had never given this much of a thought before. Anyone else heard this ? I wouldnt want to be putting dirty fuel into my GTI.
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Have had problems with Morrisons :angry: But as far as I am aware Tesco's are ok.
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http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=124345.0
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http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=124345.0
how dare you link to another part of the forum :shocked: :shocked:
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http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=124345.0
how dare you link to another part of the forum :shocked: :shocked:
mk5s all over again mate :rolleyes: :lipsrsealed: :kiss:
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Don`t the petrol pump filter it ?
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Well stone the crows, a duplicate thread. That never happens in here. Sue me.
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http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=124345.0
how dare you link to another part of the forum :shocked: :shocked:
How vaary daare he! :shocked:
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Just read the full 4 page other thread, it talks about morrisons fuel. Thats it. Nothing about this being supermarkets in general, nothing about any extra additives etc used in esso/shell/bp fuels and not a jot about how dirty the tankers are that supermarkets use.
:rolleyes:
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Just read the full 4 page other thread, it talks about morrisons fuel. Thats it. Nothing about this being supermarkets in general, nothing about any extra additives etc used in esso/shell/bp fuels and not a jot about how dirty the tankers are that supermarkets use.
:rolleyes:
I suggest you use this site then
www.google.co.uk
jeez - why does everyone need to be spoon fed on this site
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You really notice the difference from driving on supermarket fuel to Shell, i used to use Morrisons alot because they were cheap. Been using Shell for a while now though and my car seems to feel better and my fuel lasts alot longer
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Just read the full 4 page other thread, it talks about morrisons fuel. Thats it. Nothing about this being supermarkets in general, nothing about any extra additives etc used in esso/shell/bp fuels and not a jot about how dirty the tankers are that supermarkets use.
:rolleyes:
I suggest you use this site then
www.google.co.uk
jeez - why does everyone need to be spoon fed on this site
Ah ok cool, so why do we have a forum if were just to use google ?
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Just read the full 4 page other thread, it talks about morrisons fuel. Thats it. Nothing about this being supermarkets in general, nothing about any extra additives etc used in esso/shell/bp fuels and not a jot about how dirty the tankers are that supermarkets use.
:rolleyes:
I suggest you use this site then
www.google.co.uk
jeez - why does everyone need to be spoon fed on this site
Ah ok cool, so why do we have a forum if were just to use google ?
so you lot got somewhere to argue about tyres and manual vs DSG
forums are generally for sharing tips, tricks, how-to's and problems and how to resolve them
the way you posted suggests, because you didn't get EXACTLY the answer you wanted, that you couldn't be bothered to go and find out the information yourself
if you do a search I believe there are several threads kicking about regarding supermarket fuel in general
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Oh crud, I read about this earlier, but what was the first thing I did when I picked up Mr. Blue Graphite Prospero?
There was only about a quarter-tank there when I picked him up, and as I live in a village where the nearest petrol station is 9 miles away, I decided I'd better fill up while I had the chance. I had a couple of things to pick up at Morrison's, because out local Tesco doesn't stock them (and as for the village, Co-op, don't make me laugh). So I just went into the petrol station there and filled up, without a second thought.
Well, I don't suppose 40 litres is going to kill anyone, and I don't usually fill up there any more.
Rolfe.
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I live 10 miles from one of the biggest refineries int he UK. I cant tell you now that tankers leaving that site are all the same, bar for the addition of an additive package thats added manually after filling the tanker itself for the premium branded fuels. The tankers themselves (whatever label they wear) are all treated the same regarding clean outs.
When fuel shortages were around, i often saw Esso or Shell tankers at my local Asda
What you should do is buy fuel from outlets that have high throughput, [particularly for superunleaded fuels. Superunleaded loses octane rating in storage. Long storage periods of any fuel in a part filled forecourt tank will lead to condensation in the tank and water entering the fuel. Very old forecourts may have less than perfect underground tanks to.
Buy from modern outlets with high throughput!
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Cheers for the info percymon!! :smiley:
I have used nothing but tesco 99 (despite hating them :angry:) since I got the car. This being from my local Tesco extra which is relatively new and offers slightly cheaper petrol than all the other competition, hence it is very very busy no matter what time you go!!
This weekend i was away and had to use cheaper grades from quiet garages in rural locations, and over the last 150miles have definately been able to tell the difference!! most probably down to what you say and the slightly lower rating :undecided:
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i'm sticking with 95 (BP) as that's what it says on the cap. plus, the price of petrol at the mo (107.9 last night!) is so ridiculous it cost me 55 notes to fill up on the normal stuff! :angry:
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i'm sticking with 95 (BP) as that's what it says on the cap. plus, the price of petrol at the mo (107.9 last night!) is so ridiculous it cost me 55 notes to fill up on the normal stuff! :angry:
Use the 99 stuff and you will see better mpg, and performance :wink:
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i'm sticking with 95 (BP) as that's what it says on the cap. plus, the price of petrol at the mo (107.9 last night!) is so ridiculous it cost me 55 notes to fill up on the normal stuff! :angry:
Use the 99 stuff and you will see better mpg, and performance :wink:
is this what you have found then? i'm sure someone earlier in this thread said the effect is minimal but maybe that was my wallet talking to me :laugh:
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FYI R32UK, the MK6 GTI engine is designed to run on 95 RON so if I had a MK6 id save the money and stick to 95.
Although If I had a MK6 Id get it remapped and then have to use the 99 stuff lol :rolleyes:
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as I understand it all the companies including supermarkets use the same tanker, however when the tanker arrives the larger companies ie shell, bp etc syphon the petrol off first.....the remaining petrol is what the supermarkets take and is cheaper as during transportation the impurities and sediments have sunk to te bottom and therefore the petrol on the top is the cleanest.
this is what i have been told...not sure if true or not?
seems to make sense.
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Just talking with a friend of my misses there and she is a petrol station owner/manager (A supermarket one, wont say which). Got talking about our new car we have on order, after a long conversation about this and that, she mentioned that for petrol we need to stay away from supermarket petrol and only goto Esso, Shell, BP stations. Asked her why ?
The tankers that the supermarket stations use are often very dirty, the supermarkets do not add additives to their fuel either and hence are not very good quality at all. Shell etc all use clean tankers, clean fuel and is of a much better quality.
I had never given this much of a thought before. Anyone else heard this ? I wouldnt want to be putting dirty fuel into my GTI.
I don't know what station she works for but I worked in a Tesco petrol station for 3 years and can comfirm that in the south west the same fuel that goes to BP, Esso and Tesco. It all comes out of the same depo. Our delivery sheets have BP Esso and Tesco at the top. There used to be a time where the additivs were put in by Tesco but this has stopped.
Fact: There are several filters petrol/diesel has to pass through before it is despenced, so what ever comes out of the pump is clean and not full of gunk. We shut down our pumps if the tank level falls below 10%, 6 tanks at 44,000L each so the customer dosn't get any of the gunk. It is also filtered out by an external company every year or so.
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Just talking with a friend of my misses there and she is a petrol station owner/manager (A supermarket one, wont say which). Got talking about our new car we have on order, after a long conversation about this and that, she mentioned that for petrol we need to stay away from supermarket petrol and only goto Esso, Shell, BP stations. Asked her why ?
The tankers that the supermarket stations use are often very dirty, the supermarkets do not add additives to their fuel either and hence are not very good quality at all. Shell etc all use clean tankers, clean fuel and is of a much better quality.
I had never given this much of a thought before. Anyone else heard this ? I wouldnt want to be putting dirty fuel into my GTI.
I don't know what station she works for but I worked in a Tesco petrol station for 3 years and can comfirm that in the south west the same fuel that goes to BP, Esso and Tesco. It all comes out of the same depo. Our delivery sheets have BP Esso and Tesco at the top. There used to be a time where the additivs were put in by Tesco but this has stopped.
Fact: There are several filters petrol/diesel has to pass through before it is despenced, so what ever comes out of the pump is clean and not full of gunk. We shut down our pumps if the tank level falls below 10%, 6 tanks at 44,000L each so the customer dosn't get any of the gunk. It is also filtered out by an external company every year or so.
Cool, ta for the info, as I say I was just passing on what I heard.
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FYI R32UK, the MK6 GTI engine is designed to run on 95 RON so if I had a MK6 id save the money and stick to 95.
Although If I had a MK6 Id get it remapped and then have to use the 99 stuff lol :rolleyes:
Tried this test on the R32 and found it made very very little or no difference Alan. however on the mk6 is seems to have a much bigger impact despite what it says on the petrol cap.
This if course is just what i have noticed using my own testing methods (bit pants really) but I suggest you try it yourself before making a judgement :nerd:
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Every, and i mean every, car i've owned (from Ford Ka, Sabb 900 runarounds to numerous BMWs, Mercs and Porsches) that i've run on both VPower/Optimax and normal 95RON has given the same results for me. That is, 10% extra mpg on VPower/Optimax. Well worth the extra 6% in price to my mind.
Even the GFs Fiat Panda 1.2 feels decidely perkier on superunleaded, even becoming fun on the back lanes !
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This weekend i was away and had to use cheaper grades from quiet garages in rural locations, and over the last 150miles have definately been able to tell the difference!! most probably down to what you say and the slightly lower rating :undecided:
What was the actual difference you noticed?
Rolfe.
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This weekend i was away and had to use cheaper grades from quiet garages in rural locations, and over the last 150miles have definately been able to tell the difference!! most probably down to what you say and the slightly lower rating :undecided:
What was the actual difference you noticed?
Rolfe.
slightly lower mpg.. about 2-4mpg I would say at a guess. Felt a little slower to respond at full throttle and low revs high gear. Quite strange but definately felt like it was working batter with the better fuel.
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Interesting results R32UK.