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Title: Loss of power steering in wet
Post by: philadams16V on 14 September 2004, 16:38

Just wondering if anyone knew or has been experiencing a similar problem.  I have a Hreg valver and I totally lose the steering sometimes in wet conditions.  The steering goes all heavy and I have to slow right down to recover it.  Seems to happen more on roundabouts and 90degree turnings.  Now I'm not a mechanic but I think it may be the belt just slipping in the power steering mech.  In dry conditions I get an awful squeeling on full lock as well. Can tell me how to fix this problem and how much it'll cost.  Cheers

Title: Re: Loss of power steering in wet
Post by: Len on 14 September 2004, 16:40

Yea mate this has been around before. I had it with my Mk 3 and a few others with Mk 2's have had it.

Solution is easy - change the drive belt.

Cost of belt about 4 quid. Fairly simple DIY or an hours labour at a garage.

Title: Re: Loss of power steering in wet
Post by: S11EPS on 14 September 2004, 16:42

^^Aye, totally agree - the squealing is the belt slipping.

You loosing power steering in the wet is the belt failing to grip on the pulley (when they are wet).

Change the belt and you'll be cool and the gang.

Title: Re: Loss of power steering in wet
Post by: philadams16V on 14 September 2004, 22:53

Cheers guys, ?7 off GSF for a belt.  Will have a go at fitting it on the weekend :-)

Title: Re: Loss of power steering in wet
Post by: Deefadog on 14 September 2004, 23:11

Yep, mine does the same thing :)

i got the belt also from GSF and i also got a new alternator one the same time but I am usure which one is for what as they are very similar.

Here is what I had, is the one you got one of these?

Bosh AVX 10 x 950 La

Bosh AVX 10 x 940 La


Thanks

Title: Re: Loss of power steering in wet
Post by: philadams16V on 15 September 2004, 18:36

The belt hasnt arrived yet but when it does I will let you know wot the part no. is.

Title: Re: Loss of power steering in wet
Post by: Deefadog on 15 September 2004, 19:54

Thanks mate

Title: Re: Loss of power steering in wet
Post by: philadams16V on 16 September 2004, 10:05

The belt PAS belt from GSF arrived today this morning mate.  Unfortuantly the part no. does not match either of the ones you supplied. 

Bosch  AVX 10 x 635

Perhaps they have sent you 2 altenator belts.  Goodluck

Title: Re: Loss of power steering in wet
Post by: Deefadog on 16 September 2004, 11:33

Thanks mate, yours is a Mk2 isn't? just checking :)

Luckally i olny live 3 mins from my GSF store, will go down there tomorrow!

Thanks again

Title: Re: Loss of power steering in wet
Post by: philadams16V on 16 September 2004, 11:43

Yes mine is a Mk2 cheers  ;D

Title: Re: Loss of power steering in wet
Post by: Deefadog on 17 September 2004, 20:00

phil, I went down gsf today and saked and the guy was really helpfull and said that I have the right belts, weird.  Let me know if yours is ok when you fit it, the only way I will tell if it's the right belt is when I take mine off, i may get a chance on sunday.

Cheers

Title: Re: Loss of power steering in wet
Post by: philadams16V on 19 September 2004, 20:49

The belt ive got is the wrong one m8.  I have the one that connects the altenator to the aircon pump on mine.  Not sure what that will be on yours as u prob aint got aircon.  The belt is the right width and has right teeth but it just aint long enough to go over the 3 cogs for the PAS. Tightened my PAS belt though as it was pretty loose and steering seems ok now, so fingers crossed.  Good luck

Title: Re: Loss of power steering in wet
Post by: Deefadog on 19 September 2004, 21:13

Nope aint got AC :(

So hopefully I have the right belts then :) have not had a chance this weekend to try it, will get onto it ASAP

Thanks again for the update

Title: Re: Loss of power steering in wet
Post by: MarkII16v on 29 September 2004, 14:29

Found out why my steering was squeeling in the wet...... Cars in the garage having a new head gasket set fitted  :'( I asked the bloke to take a look at tightening the belt for me, turns out that the belt is split slightly and the tensioner was broken! So when I get my car back hopefully it should drive a lot better  ;D Albeit ?550 lighter in the pocket

Title: Re: Loss of power steering in wet
Post by: Deefadog on 03 October 2004, 12:49

HELP PLEASE SOMEONE

Finally got round to doing the belts, If i am rigt in syaing the power steering belt has to come off first to llowthe alternator belt to go on yes?

So I lossend the front tensioner for the power seering and the thing would not budge, I did notce on the sump side that the pump has a slot on it, does this have to be lossend also?? I i did not want to undo it incase I knackeed something up :)

btw Haynes is crap on this, there is not a step by step guide for this!

Title: Re: Loss of power steering in wet
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 04 October 2004, 19:37

you have probably missed a bolt. theres one (if looking at tthe car) at the back of the pump which is a bit tricky to find, you need an extension bar to reach it with a socket.

i had problems getting a power steering belt to fit. even woking colbornes couldnt work it out :o my power steering has two pulleys instead of the normal 3 and i got no idea why, vag matey said that maybe the power steering was put on afterwards? how many pulleys have you boys got ???

Title: Re: Loss of power steering in wet
Post by: Deefadog on 05 October 2004, 12:45

Thanks mate

I think i have 3 pulleys!

Well i have loosened the tensioner at the very bottom, and the bolt at the top which looks like where the wuhole thing swivels from, so ther is another bolt on the back, between the sump and the pump? I did notice this had a grove so it looks like it can move between this grove! is this correct, anything else?

btw looking at the power steering belt, it is around a third of the size of the alternator belt, so will have to take this back to gsf for them to get me the right one!

Title: Re: Loss of power steering in wet
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 05 October 2004, 19:29

its usually the width of the belt which makes it squeak cos it runs sideways in the groove

Title: Re: Loss of power steering in wet
Post by: Deefadog on 05 October 2004, 22:05

Right this is driving me nutz, I have undone all the bolts that i can see and it still will not budge! if i have undone them all should it move freely?

I have undone: (if looking from the weel side, which i have removed)

1 x bolt on tension on bottom

2 x bolts on the lefto9f the tensioner

2 x bolts on the pump it self

and the swivel bar above the pump

The pump is loose but will not swivel??

I can't see that other bolt o the sum side you mentioned, is it near the pump it self or the arm?