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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Wurzel on 04 September 2009, 23:06
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Some manufactureres charge £1000+ for sat nav when you can buy a TomTom for under a hundred notes, how is it justified???
How much does it cost in the mk6?
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a lot! i'll be using my tom tom 930!
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Now the prices have gone up it's £1620 - £2225 :shocked: depending on whether you have Dynaudio or a CD changer. Basically like any company they'll screw you for every penny they think they can get. And as plently of people buying a new car will specify sat nav, it's win-win for VW.
Plus of course TomTom, Garmin etc make literally millions of their products where VW probably sells a lot fewer so there's economies of scale. And VW get a car stereo company to make it, rather than a sat-nav company. And the VW unit is a DVD player and reads SD's and gets radio and will bluetooth your phone and knows how to interface with your reverse camera and tell you your arse is going to get heated and probably makes coffee too.
Personally, I think integrated sat nav is probably worth about £800, so I'd buy one on ebay and fit it myself. Or use last years road atlas and save myself another £800.
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Renault have recently begun selling integrated TomTom satnavs on some models for about £300. They're not particularly well integrated (they stick out of the top of the dash), but at least one manufacturer is making an effort. I agree it's very annoying when you see portable satnavs for under £100 which do almost the same thing as some manufacturers' £2000+ designs (albeit less elegantly).
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Seat also do this on the new Ibiza. It doesn't appear to be anything more sophisticated than a mounting point on the dash board which has a power supply to it. Mind you, for me the only downside of Tom Tom is having to use the naff sucker pad and having the charging lead all over the place. This solves both of these, so it's a step in the right direction.
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To be honest I think I'd rather use a TomTom or garmin than a manufacturer's version because it would probably be more up to date. And who wants DVD in their car anyway! Honestly if manufacturers had a brain they'd get Garmin or Tomtom internals in their satnavs, and DVD players dont cost much these days either anyway, shouldnt cost more than £400-£500 for a decent system.
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To be honest I think I'd rather use a TomTom or garmin than a manufacturer's version because it would probably be more up to date. And who wants DVD in their car anyway! Honestly if manufacturers had a brain they'd get Garmin or Tomtom internals in their satnavs, and DVD players dont cost much these days either anyway, shouldnt cost more than £400-£500 for a decent system.
i would def buy an integrated tomtom
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Integrated nav/bluetooth should be standard these days on a £23,000 car. Or at most a few hundred quid option. I know it's got a silly name and isn't everyones cup of tea, but the RNS510 sat nav comes as standard on the Skoda Superb for that price. As does most nearly everything else that you pay extra for on a Golf.
If I buy a Skoda, will you laugh at me? :grin:
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Integrated nav/bluetooth should be standard these days on a £23,000 car. Or at most a few hundred quid option. I know it's got a silly name and isn't everyones cup of tea, but the RNS510 sat nav comes as standard on the Skoda Superb for that price. As does most nearly everything else that you pay extra for on a Golf.
If I buy a Skoda, will you laugh at me? :grin:
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:grin: :grin: :grin: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: lol
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To be honest I think I'd rather use a TomTom or garmin than a manufacturer's version because it would probably be more up to date. And who wants DVD in their car anyway! Honestly if manufacturers had a brain they'd get Garmin or Tomtom internals in their satnavs, and DVD players dont cost much these days either anyway, shouldnt cost more than £400-£500 for a decent system.
I wote a whole dissertation on this subject about 5yrs ago... its simply down to manufacturers not agreeing on a std format/protocol. 5yrs on and I see its something they still havent addressed. Although they are still making alot of money from this market.... just look at the market share tomtom and others have managed to steal from the car industry :undecided:
missed a trick :wink:
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The reliance on these things makes me laugh. It's usually drivers who pootle about their own town, which they already know who use them :grin:
I hitched a ride with a friend one Sunday night after he'd bought a sat nav. He knew where he was, where he was going and crucially how to get there, but he refused to leave until booting up the Nav. WTF? :rolleyes:
Unrelated rant - sorry!
Nav = total waste of money, IMO.
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tbh familydub your absolutely right!!
I was nothing but a map man before (even then I wold have to be pretty lost to use it) but since I had the sat nav I am very reliant on it. Although it is great for finding new shortcuts etc, Im useless without it now. :undecided:
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tbh familydub your absolutely right!!
I was nothing but a map man before (even then I wold have to be pretty lost to use it) but since I had the sat nav I am very reliant on it. Although it is great for finding new shortcuts etc, Im useless without it now. :undecided:
I enjoyed spending a few years learning the short cuts around my town, but ETTO :kiss:
Don't get me wrong though... I'd have an RCD510 if someone had one going for £400 :wink:
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Im useless without it now. :undecided:
lol bloke who used to work with me couldn't function without his sat nav. one day he was out, only 20 miles down the road, about a half hour journey, and it took him 2 HOURS to get home!! :shocked: :shocked:
His sense of direction was non-existant!! :laugh: :laugh:
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i know all the local shortcuts too... but our local council hav a habit of blocking them off :angry:
nothing worse than trying one, to end up looking stupid and ending up behind the car you were previously infront of :embarassed:
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i know all the local shortcuts too... but our local council hav a habit of blocking them off :angry:
nothing worse than trying one, to end up looking stupid and ending up behind the car you were previously infront of :embarassed:
Yup. That happens to me! :laugh: :embarassed:
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Personally I want an RNS510 for the sake of the hard drive!
The 20gb on that and a 32gb memory card would save me keeping my iPod in the car all the time.
The SatNav is an added bonus - it looks nice, and will probably be used 5 times a year or something when I make long journeys to places I'm unfamiliar with.
Hopefully I can pick up an immaculate one for about £700 - and then sell off my RCD510 for £300 ish - making the RNS cost around £400!
Sorted!
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Personally I want an RNS510 for the sake of the hard drive!
The 20gb on that and a 32gb memory card would save me keeping my iPod in the car all the time.
You can attach USB hard drives to the MDI can't you (i.e. a 250GB one is probably less than £100)?
The SatNav is an added bonus - it looks nice, and will probably be used 5 times a year or something when I make long journeys to places I'm unfamiliar with.
Was offered a GTi with SatNav by my dealer rather than seemingly endless wait for my spec - is very nice and everything but is totally useless compared to my basic TomTom - it doesn't (fully) recognise postcodes (only uses first 4 characters from memory, i.e. gets you within a few miles of your destination...aaargh! :huh:
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yes, it is strange a £1500 system is unable to compete with my wife's 5 year old £100 tomtom, let alone my new one.
if the mdi can take/power a hard drive, tesco are selling an iomega 320gb for around £45, in brushed steel
so these days can you just plug in an RNS where the RCD was? I though there was a built in aerial etc in the car & a sharks fin?
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My local dealer, told us not to get the RNS as it was useless.
Now when a salesman tells you this, when there is a possible bigger profit for his company, sometimes you have got to listen.
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If you know the street name and number the RNS510 will take you to the door!! Pop over to the mk5 section and have aread from anyone who has this system fitted and they will rave on about it as I do.
Its simply a fantastic piece of kit and puts a tomtom to shame... if you havent tried it for yourself then I sugest you do. in fact its one of the main reasons I went for another VW as opposed to another brand. it puts most other manufacturers oem sat nav systems to shame. :cool:
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Its simply a fantastic piece of kit and puts a tomtom to shame... if you havent tried it for yourself then I sugest you do. in fact its one of the main reasons I went for another VW as opposed to another brand. it puts most other manufacturers oem sat nav systems to shame. :cool:
Not doubting you in any way but how is it better than a TomTom? Reliability? Convenience?
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The ability to zoom in and out instantly
no annoying woman talking over your stereo
the ability to drag the map to any where you want to go
the rocket function :cool:
in built 30gb hd
speed camera updates (both mobile and fixed)
watch films
ulitises the full screen for other functions
works with you mfsw
looks sh1t hot
doesnt leave circular marks on your windscreen
doesnt have to be put away after you finish with it
stop pikeys from breaking into your glove box because you have circular marks on your screen
battery doesnt die as you approach your unknown destination
dont have to run a power cable across your dash and steering wheel
increases the value of your car
sync'd with the fiscon kit you have virtually all your phones functionality through the sat nav
you can adjust which speaker you can hear the sat nav voice through
you get automatic traffic updates without paying for subscription
you get a visual of where the traffic is
it gives you a visual of 3 different routes and you can choose which one
it doesnt have a poxy sizes screen
need me to go on??? im sure I could :grin: :smug:
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Sounds like they've significantly improved the RNS510 over the RNS500 I had in my old Passat. That was basically only good as something to disagree and argue with when my wife wasn't in the car! :laugh:
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We have a sat nav (SWMBO calls it my other woman and hates it). If we're both out SWMBO will still get the map out, sometimes I'm told to go one way by one and the other tell's me to go another. God help me when I obey the Sat Nav :cry: even when the Sat Nav is right. At least the Sat Nav doesn't get the hump, she just recalculates and gets on with the job in hand.
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Was offered a GTi with SatNav by my dealer rather than seemingly endless wait for my spec - is very nice and everything but is totally useless compared to my basic TomTom - it doesn't (fully) recognise postcodes (only uses first 4 characters from memory, i.e. gets you within a few miles of your destination...aaargh! :huh:
Erm, it recognises house numbers/house names, so will get you to within six foot of your destination. :rolleyes: And it also has 'dead reckoning' which no TomTom has! :smug:
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We have a sat nav (SWMBO calls it my other woman and hates it). If we're both out SWMBO will still get the map out, sometimes I'm told to go one way by one and the other tell's me to go another. God help me when I obey the Sat Nav :cry: even when the Sat Nav is right. At least the Sat Nav doesn't get the hump, she just recalculates and gets on with the job in hand.
PMSLMFAO
I know that feeling well! :embarassed:
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PMSLMFAO
Had to google that one :grin:
What's wrong with TLAs? I must admit I had to google SWMBO as well, but at least that's two accronyms I've now learnt on this forum.
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dont worry about it.. after 2yrs I still didnt know what "ftw" meant, as I couldnt be bothered to google it. In the end I gave up :undecided:
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for the win :laugh:
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for the win :laugh:
i know that now.. but honestly who actually says that in real life :huh:
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for the win :laugh:
i know that now.. but honestly who actually says that in real life :huh:
True, but you gotta admit you'll use something like LMFAO, or LMDO, or YTC - and my fave, RTFM :evil:
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for the win :laugh:
i know that now.. but honestly who actually says that in real life :huh:
True, but you gotta admit you'll use something like LMFAO, or LMDO, or YTC - and my fave, FTFM :evil:
Everyday without fail :laugh:
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FTFM :evil:
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I like IMGTFUUT :grin:
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FTFM :evil:
:laugh: :laugh:
That was a typo! :embarassed: Should have been RTFM!
Actually, I like that!! :afro:
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I like IMGTFUUT :grin:
WTFDTM ? :undecided: