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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Wurzel on 04 September 2009, 21:46

Title: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: Wurzel on 04 September 2009, 21:46
I'm interested whether any of you considered or are considering the 1-series when also contemplating the mk6 Golf?
Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: christomk3gti on 04 September 2009, 21:51
Or the mk3?  :wink:  :grin:
Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: rjwojcik on 04 September 2009, 21:57
Nope, I needed a five door for my chaps, the 1 has no leg room in the rear at all (and boot is tiny).
Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: Wurzel on 04 September 2009, 22:48
Or the mk3?  :wink:  :grin:

1-series price is more comparable.
Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: mac7 on 05 September 2009, 01:25
I went and had a look at a 1 series, just to help gauge the Golf against its competition. It may be well screwed together and a better car to drive round a track but other than that I thought it was horrid. Styled by a blind man and with a cheap nasty interior. No wonder Audi is doing so well.
Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: FroGTI on 05 September 2009, 06:39
The only thing I envy the 1 series for is its RWD. Apart from that, I don't like it at all.
Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: keelaw on 05 September 2009, 08:04

I did consider a second hand 130i M sport as that looks better than the standrad SE and 260 bhp with rwd is not to be sniffed at.

Despite 5 door being available, it is still too impractical, too small, visually challenged and would be more expensive to run I reckon.

I've had a 5 series previously and the interior of the 1 is similar in design so wouldn't be enough of a "change" for me.

Also I like the idea of getting a new car specced to my taste and something that would for a short time anyway be relatively rare on the roads.

 
Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: Wurzel on 05 September 2009, 09:38
But the BMW diesel engines are excellent. If you dont need the space of the Golf I think the 1-series is a pretty cool car. The interior plastics may not be top quality but it has "interesting" styling. My dad just got one and it's pretty cool actually.
Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: DonnieDarko on 05 September 2009, 10:35
only consideration was an A3 black edition, or s3.
i hate the 1 series
i've gone for the gti primarily on exterior looks and a newer cabin, even though i think the a3 is slightly better money- i.e. more standard equipment = less option money spent and lost on resale.
Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: jools on 05 September 2009, 13:00
Have driven the 1 series on a couple of occasions and dare I say it was quite impressed: :embarassed:

Its well balanced  and the steering in particular  very precise, its also very refined for a small car.

The engines  really stand out though- especially the twin turbo diesel 123d models. The performance/economy mix of these puts them in a different league to the competition

Yes not sure on the looks of the low spec models but an M sport in the coupe or 3 door to me looks pretty good.

Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: mac7 on 05 September 2009, 14:27
Well after what I wrote before, I've just seen an M-kitted 1 series and have to admit, it did look pretty okay-ish. And I'd agree that BMW's engines are easily better than VW's. Hmmm, maybe these Volkswagens aren't as good as I thought they were...
Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: GTaye on 05 September 2009, 14:44
Considered the 1 series,I had one as a courtesy car when my Z4 was at the stealers and they drive superbly, well balanced with great grip and feedback but they are smaller and the looks aren't as good.  BMW engines are great...the Z4 3.0 had 265bhp and averaged 32mpg in the 18 months I had it...not so good are the run flat tyres
Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: R32UK on 05 September 2009, 15:26
i considered the 130i after the R32.... but its simply not as good. So there is no way I would choose it over the mk6... its sooooo yesterday :grin:
Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: Wurzel on 05 September 2009, 15:28
i considered the 130i after the R32.... but its simply not as good. So there is no way I would choose it over the mk6... its sooooo yesterday :grin:

Not as good in what way? You've not told us anything really.
Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: R32UK on 05 September 2009, 16:56
i considered the 130i after the R32.... but its simply not as good. So there is no way I would choose it over the mk6... its sooooo yesterday :grin:

Not as good in what way? You've not told us anything really.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZanDoRmGto&feature=related

that should help.
Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: Wurzel on 05 September 2009, 17:55
ok you're comparing the R32 which is 4 wheel drive.
Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: R32UK on 05 September 2009, 18:10
ok you're comparing the R32 which is 4 wheel drive.

which bit of..

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i considered the 130i after the R32.... but its simply not as good

did you not understand?
Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: Wurzel on 05 September 2009, 18:31
I'll tell you - the bit where you dont actually explain what's not as good. You gave me Clarkson's opinion where is your own?
Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: R32UK on 05 September 2009, 20:09
I'll tell you - the bit where you dont actually explain what's not as good. You gave me Clarkson's opinion where is your own?

which is why I said "this will help". Instead of "here is my opinion".

I just cant be bothered to write it all down. Whilst I do like the 130i (looks included) its just not special enough. rear is far too cramped. Expensive to service. 4wd is more useable. interior is great quality but you have to pay big money for the toys.
Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 06 September 2009, 15:25
The only thing I envy the 1 series for is its RWD.

Why?  Even with RWD, the 1 series understeers like a fat bird in a sauna!  :sick:  BMWs 'handling' claims are so overrated!  :sad:
Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 06 September 2009, 15:32
But the BMW diesel engines are excellent.

Agreed - BMW diesels, especially their 6cyl diesels are excellent.  But their petrol engines are shyte - completely devoid of low and mid range torque.  And in 'real-world' everyday drving on public roads, BMWs are very poor in the handling department!  But some BMW owners/fanboys specticles are tinted a little too pink for an honest opinion!
Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 06 September 2009, 15:35
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZanDoRmGto&feature=related

Understeer city from the Munich pretender!  :sick:
Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: matchboy on 06 September 2009, 17:28
my mum and dad have a 1 series as a courtesy car at the moment while their car is being fixed.  its a diesel and an m sport one.  what a piece of sh1t.  no word of a lie, the inside of a ford is less plastic.  v disappointed in it.  only good thing about it is the seats which gripped you in.  and that thing that turns the engine off when you're stationery is awful - waste of time.  v poor from bmw as their high end cars are awesome.  the 1 series is a waste of space.
Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: jools on 06 September 2009, 19:14
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the 1 series is a waste of space.

Not as good an all round car as the Golf - but a waste of space?

Not according to this test!!

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqqtjvO7YZc&feature=related
Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: Wurzel on 06 September 2009, 19:21
That Top Gear thing is fair enough, the BMW 130i is £4k more and doesnt have 4WD and has less space. But I still think the 1er is a decent car, I wouldnt go for the 130i though, you could almost get a Porsche Caymen for that money. The smaller diesels are pretty good, the 116d, 118d and 120d. The 116d is in the lowest road tax band it's emissions are less than 120g/km, and it still has decent performance.

But sure if you need the extra space the Golf's the logical choice.
Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: R32UK on 06 September 2009, 20:13
the bmw defo wins it on interior quality over the mk5. Just had my cousin over and sat him in the mk6 and he said his next car would probably be the golf... matches his 120d m-sport for quality.

the only reason I looked at the 130i was you can pick them up for just over 10k... good value for a rwd stright 6 bmw.
Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: Wurzel on 06 September 2009, 20:25

the only reason I looked at the 130i was you can pick them up for just over 10k... good value for a rwd stright 6 bmw.

How many miles?

I would not even look at a 130i the fuel bill would be too much imo, sure you could drive it like a granny but then you may as well have the 116i. The diesels are the only option, the 123d has twin turbos.
Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: R32UK on 06 September 2009, 20:38

the only reason I looked at the 130i was you can pick them up for just over 10k... good value for a rwd stright 6 bmw.

How many miles?

I would not even look at a 130i the fuel bill would be too much imo, sure you could drive it like a granny but then you may as well have the 116i. The diesels are the only option, the 123d has twin turbos.

can find anything down at that price at the mo but something like..

http://www.pistonheads.com/SALES/1018934.htm

the equvalient R32 with same miles and spec would probably be quite a few quid more. I imagine the 3.0 bmw engine would be slightly more efficient than the 3.2 from vw also. :nerd:
Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: matchboy on 06 September 2009, 20:44
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the 1 series is a waste of space.

Not as good an all round car as the Golf - but a waste of space?

Not according to this test!!

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqqtjvO7YZc&feature=related


i don't listen to critics.  its like watching a film, invariably i disagree with what some sweaty fat bloke in an office drinking coffee all day says.  like i say, i have nothing against beemers, i have been in a 320d (slow), a 330i (sweet) and a z4 (awesome) and always been impressed with the interior.  i was amazed how sh1te the 1 series was.  all personal preference but i wouldn't drive one if you paid me.  :laugh:
Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: Wurzel on 06 September 2009, 21:56
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the 1 series is a waste of space.

Not as good an all round car as the Golf - but a waste of space?

Not according to this test!!

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqqtjvO7YZc&feature=related


i don't listen to critics.  its like watching a film, invariably i disagree with what some sweaty fat bloke in an office drinking coffee all day says.  like i say, i have nothing against beemers, i have been in a 320d (slow), a 330i (sweet) and a z4 (awesome) and always been impressed with the interior.  i was amazed how sh1te the 1 series was.  all personal preference but i wouldn't drive one if you paid me.  :laugh:

If you mean the interior is sh1te I tend to agree, the plastics seem a bit cheap. It is fairly well put together though.
Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: matchboy on 06 September 2009, 22:09
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the 1 series is a waste of space.

Not as good an all round car as the Golf - but a waste of space?

Not according to this test!!

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqqtjvO7YZc&feature=related


i don't listen to critics.  its like watching a film, invariably i disagree with what some sweaty fat bloke in an office drinking coffee all day says.  like i say, i have nothing against beemers, i have been in a 320d (slow), a 330i (sweet) and a z4 (awesome) and always been impressed with the interior.  i was amazed how sh1te the 1 series was.  all personal preference but i wouldn't drive one if you paid me.  :laugh:

If you mean the interior is sh1te I tend to agree, the plastics seem a bit cheap. It is fairly well put together though.

in terms of build quality yes its v good i agree.  but its all plastic city inside!
Title: Re: mk6 Golf v BMW 1-series
Post by: FamilyDub on 07 September 2009, 16:12

I think the 'M' sport varieties are better looking than the bread and butter models, especially in 3-door guise.

As T_T said, the petrol models are shyte - unless you get a 3.0 litre V6  :wink:

Golf MKVI, every time  :grin: