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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: bobbarley on 02 September 2009, 17:08
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Just noticed it today for the first time. The car pulls along fine, and seems to brake without a problem. However when the car is slowing down, but a LOT so when coasting to a stop, there's a kind of "dumf dumf" noise that repeats in time with the turning of the wheels. It sounds like the noise you'd get if you had a flat tyre, but I don't.
What's more, I can feel it through the seat and steering. The steering wheels actually jolts from left to right.
I thought it might be the tracking, but don't see why it would just suddenly decide to go wrong, plus it accelerates fine without making the noise. It's only when slowing.
Any ideas?
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Dodgy tyres? Damaged in some way :undecided:
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Keep off the rubble strips :grin: But seriousley thats an odd one, best bet is to jack up the car and just check all the usual, bearings, suspension brakes, cv joints etc, if i remeber correctley you have had some probs recentley, haven't you?
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I've had something simular....a weird kind of rotational noise, almost like a knackered bearing sound which seems to be speed related and you notice it a lot when braking or coasting down all the way to a stop.
You can feel a vibration in the pedal/steering/seat and there is definate wobbling through the steering.
So far I've checked all the bushes, ARB, brakes etc for any obvious issues and it all looks ok, even had both front wheel bearings & wishbones replaced but it's still doing it. There is a very slight feathering to the inside of the tyres but I'm not convinced that's the cause. Am trying to pinch someone at work's TDI at the weekend so I can swop wheels over to confirm.
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Broken wheel arch liner catching the tyre??
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What about wheel balance? I could have knocked a weight off one of the front wheels?
At 70 on the motorway earlier the WHOLE car vibrates, seats, doorcards, glovebox, everything inside the car jumps around.
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Could be balance or wheel bearing or loose wheel nuts :shocked:
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Feels a lot like wheel balance. Might throw it into Kwik Fit or somewhere tomorrow to get them checked out.
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Bearings and loose nuts can seem very similar, would give them a quick check before going anywhere.
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Who last had the wheels off :undecided: Are they tight?
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Who last had the wheels off :undecided: Are they tight?
We did! :grin:
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I've had something simular....a weird kind of rotational noise, almost like a knackered bearing sound which seems to be speed related and you notice it a lot when braking or coasting down all the way to a stop.
You can feel a vibration in the pedal/steering/seat and there is definate wobbling through the steering.
So far I've checked all the bushes, ARB, brakes etc for any obvious issues and it all looks ok, even had both front wheel bearings & wishbones replaced but it's still doing it. There is a very slight feathering to the inside of the tyres but I'm not convinced that's the cause. Am trying to pinch someone at work's TDI at the weekend so I can swop wheels over to confirm.
Run your finger on the inside or all your tyres - do you feel the 50p shape?
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warped disc?
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warped disc?
Yeah i was thinking that also :undecided:
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Discs on the front are maybe 6 months old?
It's weird how it only does it when coasting, or accelerating really steadily. And the faster the car is going, quicker it gets.
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Seriously, the car's really pissing me off at the moment. Wish I'd just got rid of it a while back :sad:
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Problem fixed. Don't ask.
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Problem fixed. Don't ask.
You know I'm going to :tongue:
Loose wheel bolts??
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Problem fixed. Don't ask.
You know I'm going to :tongue:
Loose wheel bolts??
So loose I could fasten them with my fingers!!
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:shocked:
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Problem fixed. Don't ask.
You know I'm going to :tongue:
Loose wheel bolts??
So loose I could fasten them with my fingers!!
:shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
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Yeah exactly. ALL 5 of them had come completely loose. Could tighten them with my hand. I figure the only thing stopping the wheel coming off was the BBS cover. Seriously I OVERTOOK a car yesterday night in the rain at 70. I should be dead.
Madness, last time the wheel was off was when Patch and I worked on the car, and I remember fastening all the wheels to within an inch of my life!
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Yeah exactly. ALL 5 of them had come completely loose. Could tighten them with my hand. I figure the only thing stopping the wheel coming off was the BBS cover. Seriously I OVERTOOK a car yesterday night in the rain at 70. I should be dead.
Madness, last time the wheel was off was when Patch and I worked on the car, and I remember fastening all the wheels to within an inch of my life!
weird then and very lucky at the same time!!
I'd take it for a 10 minute drive and then come back and re-check them - bolt threads might be stripped / stripping :undecided:
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I took it for a spin after and it seems ok now, worried I might have damaged the wheels or hub though. Will be taking the car 25 miles to the wedding venue tomorrow, will see how it goes :undecided:
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close call dude!!! glad you fixed it thought ;)
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close call dude!!! glad you fixed it thought ;)
Yeah just think, you'd have had to pay full cost for the hotel room in October if I'd snuffed it :wink:
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Bloody close call bud :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
Glad you got her sorted :smiley:
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Second time this has happened now. First time was about 8 years ago in my first car, Mazda 323. Weird rumbling noise on the motorway. Got back to my mates house to find the wheel had almost fallen off. Again only thing stopping it come away completely had been the cover for the bolts holding the alloy on.
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Second time this has happened now. First time was about 8 years ago in my first car, Mazda 323. Weird rumbling noise on the motorway. Got back to my mates house to find the wheel had almost fallen off. Again only thing stopping it come away completely had been the cover for the bolts holding the alloy on.
Remind me to check all you wheel nuts before i get in it next time :laugh:
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Yeah exactly. ALL 5 of them had come completely loose. Could tighten them with my hand. I figure the only thing stopping the wheel coming off was the BBS cover. Seriously I OVERTOOK a car yesterday night in the rain at 70. I should be dead.
Madness, last time the wheel was off was when Patch and I worked on the car, and I remember fastening all the wheels to within an inch of my life!
Yeah i remember you going round them with that big fecking bar that you have,how they came loose is what worries me :undecided:
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I'll have to keep an eye on them. If they come lose again I'll be getting a new hub I guess, and bolts.
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I'll have to keep an eye on them. If they come lose again I'll be getting a new hub I guess, and bolts.
Or did some little chav try and undo them to steel them.... :undecided:
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Sounds like you might of over tightened them and stripped the threads... Close call but glad your ok Bob :wink:
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Was it the drivers side?
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Passenger side. I was thinking the same, I remember one of the bolts going funny when I was tightening them, but that was the drivers side.
It wasn't someone stealing it, unless their intention was to only hald undo them all and replace the cap after.
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It wasn't someone stealing it, unless their intention was to only hald undo them all and replace the cap after.
Ah yes forgot about the cap on the RC's :smiley:
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It wasn't someone stealing it, unless their intention was to only hald undo them all and replace the cap after.
Ah yes forgot about the cap on the RC's :smiley:
Mate, that cap potentially saved my life!
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Very lucky Mr Bob :lipsrsealed:
Sounds like you might of over tightened them and stripped the threads... Close call but glad your ok Bob :wink:
+1 if you were using a breaker bar then that sounds like a cause :sad:
I'd take it steady tomorrow :wink:
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I never know how tight to do them, so always do it as tight as possible before they won't go any more.
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M14 = 110NM invest in a torque wrench :wink:
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Lucky there mate. Might be worth you investing on a torque wrench. Don't know you'r own strength.
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Lucky there mate. Might be worth you investing on a torque wrench. Don't know you'r own strength.
he's got one on order :wink:
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I use my torque wrist pretty acurate most of the time lol.
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Bloody hell Nige, close call. Glad all is ok. Maybe thats how I had 2 bolts missing the other week, same issue? Who knows. Make sure you keep an eye on them!
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Haven't ordered the the wrench that, waiting until I get paid again. Skint!! :smiley:
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Haven't ordered the the wrench that, waiting until I get paid again. Skint!! :smiley:
shouldn't you be on honeymoon?? Or did you run away?? :tongue: :laugh: :laugh:
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Holiday is on Tuesday, we've got a few days to recover yet. Still got friends over at the house. Still entertaining :grin: