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Title: wobbly gear stick
Post by: navmk4gti on 01 September 2009, 04:15
drove my mk4 today from garage to check the suspension was ok as some of you know it was hit... when i brought it first the gear stick was wobbly... and now it is gone really bad i mean i can literally move it side to side even when its in gear .. it feels very very loose.. BUT it goes into gear fine ...

any ideas how i can tighten it up or if something has gone damaged or loose in it???  cus im getting the car back in the morning and its gna piss me off driven like that after all the work i got done to it... dont want a gear stick to put me off   :angry:
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: s-l-i-x on 01 September 2009, 12:27
Mine does this too, thought it was normal until I had a go in my mates car (same golf/year/engine code) and there was no play in his at all....  :undecided:
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: 20v on 01 September 2009, 12:53
Eight pound forty from vw bout five minutes work mine broke about  :smiley:a fort nite ago its the left bit that goes on the end of the cable linkage which connects to the shifter arm :smiley   gimme a shoout if u need any more info
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: navmk4gti on 01 September 2009, 21:00
Eight pound forty from vw bout five minutes work mine broke about  :smiley:a fort nite ago its the left bit that goes on the end of the cable linkage which connects to the shifter arm :smiley   gimme a shoout if u need any more info

sorry mate but you saying i need get a part which will cost £84 or it cost you that much get it fixed?  :smiley:

any pics to what i should be connecting and stuff. thanks
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: Wurzel on 01 September 2009, 22:07
I think he said it cost him £8.40 for the part.

Mine is a bit wobbly the thing that's concerning me most though is sometimes it's very tough to get into first gear, sometimes at traffic lights I end up really forcing it in when the lights change, makes a noise too. It's like there's lumps of coal jammed in it or something.
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: navmk4gti on 01 September 2009, 23:11
I think he said it cost him £8.40 for the part.

Mine is a bit wobbly the thing that's concerning me most though is sometimes it's very tough to get into first gear, sometimes at traffic lights I end up really forcing it in when the lights change, makes a noise too. It's like there's lumps of coal jammed in it or something.

mine did that today too  :angry: its starting to really piss me off.. have you got part number and a pic off what i am changing please 20v..
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: Pete H on 02 September 2009, 22:02
me too!!! i was going to put one of them TT quickish shift kits on and see if that made a difference.

know what you mean about first, i normally, flip it back into 2nd then forward, goes in no problem then.

have you all got 5 speeds? (mines AGU by the way)
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: jtomlin on 02 September 2009, 22:16
it seems every problem people put up on here, i have, hahah vw's.....who'd ave em!
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: navmk4gti on 02 September 2009, 22:47
cmon sum1 got the part number for us  :laugh:

mine is a AGU too  :smiley:
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: Wurzel on 02 September 2009, 23:06
pm him.
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: navmk4gti on 03 September 2009, 19:55
iv got a digram for my gear system from WV.. so i will be changing the bush tomoz so i will let you guys know if it sorts the wobblyness out   :smiley:
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: Rhyso on 03 September 2009, 19:57
iv got a digram for my gear system from WV.. so i will be changing the bush tomoz so i will let you guys know if it sorts the wobblyness out   :smiley:

take some pics too if you could please mate :afro:
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: navmk4gti on 03 September 2009, 20:12
will do got my camera working jus now too... will take pics my car too after a valet tomoz got my anni kit and r32 rims on  :cool:
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: Rhyso on 03 September 2009, 20:13
will do got my camera working jus now too... will take pics my car too after a valet tomoz got my anni kit and r32 rims on  :cool:

sweet  :cool:
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: easton7 on 04 September 2009, 10:52
I had a similar problem on my GTTDi

Lots of play when in gear and sometimes felt like I was forcing it into 1st

Turned out it was the gear linkage on its way out
And I only found out when it had totally given out on me

Have a look under the bunnet and see if its rubbing against the engine bay
(It should have a few inches clearance)
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: Ben_1uk on 04 September 2009, 11:56
Just thought I'd put my 10p in - I had a very similar problem with my Focus ST and that turned out to be the gear linkage assembly. Not a massive problem to fix but quite a big problem when using the car on a daily basis as it will progressively get worse and worse.
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: navmk4gti on 04 September 2009, 11:59
cars getting valated today and fixing bits and bobs like grill.. badges etc.. so will go VW on monday.. been googling this wobbly business and my first change would be the bushes.. will post a pic today when get my car back of the gear linkage and stuff so can have a crack at what dont look right  :grin:
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: Pete H on 06 September 2009, 20:12
any updates mate?
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: navmk4gti on 06 September 2009, 20:17
no not yet mate will be having crack on it tomoz after got my new throttle body in so will get the parts VW tomoz and give it a shot..been to busy over weekend hunting down an AGU airbox.. its a right ass to find  :angry:
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: Mr A on 10 September 2009, 00:49
Hi

i bought my first golf last week, i ma experiencing the same problems in terms of my first gear and sometimes 2nd.  pain in the arse at traffic lights occassionally.

not too sure if my gear stick is wobbly?  will check tho.

im going to spray my gear linkages on friday when i get a day off with white grease.

i will be following your progress to see if you can rectify your problem. i will keep you updated on any feedback i have

thanks
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: navmk4gti on 10 September 2009, 01:52
i had a snoop at my gear linkage and stuff today and found the nuts around  it where pretty loose! (jus give the linkage a tug see if it wobbles too).. so i thought lets tighten it  :laugh: ..

did it and the wobblyness has gone down a lot its gone stiffer now way better then before.. it is still a bit wobbly but very minor.. none the less will be changing the bushes as originaly planned on the weekend along with my MAF  :wink:

so try that guys might solve ya probs out without changing anything.. be careful not damage anything tho  :wink:
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: Mr A on 10 September 2009, 17:49
i had a snoop at my gear linkage and stuff today and found the nuts around  it where pretty loose! (jus give the linkage a tug see if it wobbles too).. so i thought lets tighten it  :laugh: ..

did it and the wobblyness has gone down a lot its gone stiffer now way better then before.. it is still a bit wobbly but very minor.. none the less will be changing the bushes as originaly planned on the weekend along with my MAF  :wink:

so try that guys might solve ya probs out without changing anything.. be careful not damage anything tho  :wink:

great news, think i might try that.

gunna have a play with them now and spray them first and see.  if you have any chance of puttin a pic up that would be great help bro.

thanks
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: navmk4gti on 10 September 2009, 20:04
will get pics up tomoz for ya in morning  :smiley:
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: Mr A on 10 September 2009, 21:27
thanks bro,

i sprayed the gear linkage, etc... will see if its affected it in the morning,

i also noticed a little bit of oil near the gear linkage thing.

bit odd.

will be taking it to a mechanic friend of my brothers in oldham on friday or saturday to get it checked out.

im praying he tells me its nothing serious.  i have still not paid for this vehicle, as i have the option to return it if the costs to repair it are too much.  I still have to pay for a service and cambelt on top of this issue. (this is minor in comparison)

Hopefully if i keep the golf (which i hope to do) i will clean out the egr valve an the manifold.
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: navmk4gti on 10 September 2009, 22:48
thanks bro,

i sprayed the gear linkage, etc... will see if its affected it in the morning,

i also noticed a little bit of oil near the gear linkage thing.

bit odd.

will be taking it to a mechanic friend of my brothers in oldham on friday or saturday to get it checked out.

im praying he tells me its nothing serious.  i have still not paid for this vehicle, as i have the option to return it if the costs to repair it are too much.  I still have to pay for a service and cambelt on top of this issue. (this is minor in comparison)

Hopefully if i keep the golf (which i hope to do) i will clean out the egr valve an the manifold.

you sure u wana be fixing a car you aint paid for?   :grin:

is a 1.8t??
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: Mr A on 11 September 2009, 10:17
i aint fixing it yet apart from the white grease (which is a minor), im just gettin it checked out for free, i took the vehicle from a trader friend of mine as a favour, so he allowed me 2 weeks to check it out and decide if i wanna keep it.

i was aware of the gear stiffness, i just want to find out if its going to escalate into a major problem or if its only a minor issue which can be rectified easily.

its a 1.9tdi s (basic model) i wanted a GTTDI(02 onwards), but its just too much missions to find a decent car relying on other people to drive me there, etc.  this vw is on a T-plate (1999) and has done 117000.  full service history with reciepts dating back to 2001. 



Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: gaz_marshall on 11 September 2009, 11:36
i had a snoop at my gear linkage and stuff today and found the nuts around  it where pretty loose! (jus give the linkage a tug see if it wobbles too).. so i thought lets tighten it  :laugh: ..

did it and the wobblyness has gone down a lot its gone stiffer now way better then before.. it is still a bit wobbly but very minor.. none the less will be changing the bushes as originaly planned on the weekend along with my MAF  :wink:

so try that guys might solve ya probs out without changing anything.. be careful not damage anything tho  :wink:

great news, think i might try that.

gunna have a play with them now and spray them first and see.  if you have any chance of puttin a pic up that would be great help bro.

thanks

I have this problem too (surprise surprise) and being no mechanic wondered how you get at the linkage to tighten up any loose bolts?

Many thanks

Gareth
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: bobreece on 22 September 2009, 07:33
anyone manage to get there gears sorted as mine is still not right
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: navmk4gti on 22 September 2009, 14:01
i jus tightened the linkage.. and its a big imporovement still wobbles a bit but not as bad.. im living with it for a while as got other bits and bobs to fix.. you can tighten bolts around the actual gear stick too if you like that might help too..  :wink:
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: chromepro on 06 January 2015, 22:20
Considering this post is over 5 years old and having the same problem with not much info on the web as to an exact solution other than upgrage to the newer linkage set up, here is what ive found.

Early 1.8Ts AGU engines used the same linkage set up as the MK 3. This was changed to the later and much more reliable set up in around 2000 i believe. This particular problem is very common in the older (better in my opinion) AGU engine.

Fault symptoms are of the above, wobbly gearshift and finding it hard to select gears especially 1st and 2nd.
In most cases there are only 2 relatively cheap parts you have to replace.

Watch     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skdeN-f8bHU       and you should be good to go. All the best.
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: Dizzy_PD on 08 January 2015, 00:15
That's a useful link @chromepro

I'm having similar issues with my pd150, if I ever have a go at doing it myself I'll post up the part numbers.

Cheers
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: Wazzzer on 08 January 2015, 21:46
I must be lucky with my AGU then as it was made in 1999 and I have the later shifter mech...
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: Bellend on 08 January 2015, 22:58
I must be lucky with my AGU then as it was made in 1999 and I have the later shifter mech...

Blimey your car is nearly as old as this thread! :shocked:
Title: Re: wobbly gear stick
Post by: Wazzzer on 09 January 2015, 16:02
She's doing well for an oldie :wink: