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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: Rossy on 29 August 2009, 11:21

Title: Power Steering leak (now with pics working)
Post by: Rossy on 29 August 2009, 11:21
hi guys,

among what seems to be a million other things going wrong, I look to have a power steering leak. I think I have found the culprit but not sure what it is. I have been told that it is the high pressure pipe, but couldn't find anything in haynes.

any idea how much/difficult it is to change this. was going to try get one second hand
Its the pipe in the centre
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c15/rossy1/IMG_0078.jpg)

general shot from above, with leak below
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c15/rossy1/IMG_0079.jpg)



pic from below
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c15/rossy1/IMG_0081.jpg)

sorry the pics are a bit crap

Title: Re: Power Steering leak (now with pics working)
Post by: gtigolfthree on 29 August 2009, 11:54
I am assuming its the power steering pipes for a mk3 golf you are looking for.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Power-steering-rack-pipes-for-Golf-Mk3_W0QQitemZ220469488155QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item3355016a1b&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Title: Re: Power Steering leak (now with pics working)
Post by: Mikester on 29 August 2009, 12:00
First of all, dont buy second hand. A new one shouldnt be expensive.

Also if its just a plain standard pipe, you could probably get a bit of pipe from a motorfactors or garage to use to replace it which will be just as good.

BUT im not sure how you would change it? As im not sure how or even if you can drain the power steering fluid etc.

Dont buy second hand though!!
Title: Re: Power Steering leak (now with pics working)
Post by: Adam on 29 August 2009, 12:02
First of all, dont buy second hand. A new one shouldnt be expensive.

Also if its just a plain standard pipe, you could probably get a bit of pipe from a motorfactors or garage to use to replace it which will be just as good.

BUT im not sure how you would change it? As im not sure how or even if you can drain the power steering fluid etc.

Dont buy second hand though!!

There was a post here in March time ish, the steelers wanted £££ for a new one.
Title: Re: Power Steering leak (now with pics working)
Post by: Rossy on 29 August 2009, 12:03
I am assuming its the power steering pipes for a mk3 golf you are looking for.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Power-steering-rack-pipes-for-Golf-Mk3_W0QQitemZ220469488155QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item3355016a1b&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
thats awesome.

is that the same as this but without the pipe?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/High-pressure-Power-Steering-Hose-for-Golf-mk3-inc-GTI_W0QQitemZ220469485829QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item3355016105&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_500wt_1182

any idea how easy this is to replace?
Title: Re: Power Steering leak (now with pics working)
Post by: Rossy on 29 August 2009, 12:06
First of all, dont buy second hand. A new one shouldnt be expensive.

Also if its just a plain standard pipe, you could probably get a bit of pipe from a motorfactors or garage to use to replace it which will be just as good.

BUT im not sure how you would change it? As im not sure how or even if you can drain the power steering fluid etc.

Dont buy second hand though!!

There was a post here in March time ish, the steelers wanted £££ for a new one.

i phoned vw yesterday and they wanted 160 + vat for the part...had to pick myself off the floor after that
Title: Re: Power Steering leak (now with pics working)
Post by: Adam on 29 August 2009, 12:12
Going to have to do it though
Title: Re: Power Steering leak (now with pics working)
Post by: Rossy on 29 August 2009, 12:29
i know.. hopefully its not too hard and i can get it done myself.

got suspension problems aswell, so running low on cash and ideas... argh!
Title: Re: Power Steering leak (now with pics working)
Post by: Adam on 29 August 2009, 12:31
Joys of running a MK3! Don't buy HotTunning coilovers if you have suspension problems.
Title: Re: Power Steering leak (now with pics working)
Post by: Rossy on 29 August 2009, 12:37
oh its just standard suspension.

hopefully afford to lower it later on. though only by a little. 20-30mm. i live in speed bump/ cobblestone hell at the moment. doesn't make for comfortable driving.lol
Title: Re: Power Steering leak (now with pics working)
Post by: boneybradley on 29 August 2009, 13:28
an engineering/hydraulic pipe place should be able to make you one up for low low price (last time i did it cost me £15 v vw's £125) but you'll need to take the pipe off
Title: Re: Power Steering leak (now with pics working)
Post by: Wayne on 29 August 2009, 13:54
an engineering/hydraulic pipe place should be able to make you one up for low low price (last time i did it cost me £15 v vw's £125) but you'll need to take the pipe off

Might not be as easy as that, 1) they are not allowed to make pas or brake hoses due to hse laws, 2) that is a special end which the will struggle to get outside of vw.
Title: Re: Power Steering leak (now with pics working)
Post by: Paul86S2 on 29 August 2009, 16:49
Find a local branch of Pirtek. They will be able to make you up the pipe (and are allowed to) and should be able to supply the right connectors, or even re-use the existing end connectors. As previously said you will need to take the old pipe into them.

Simple procedure, remove old pipe, catch and dispose of any fluid that leaks out. Get replacement and fit. Top up fluid reservoir, start engine and turn steering from full lock to full lock whilst checking the fluid level. Top up and repeat until the level stays still.

Its handy to put your front tyres on old newspaper to make turning the steering easier and not damaging your tyres.

Paul
Title: Re: Power Steering leak (now with pics working)
Post by: Wayne on 29 August 2009, 20:40
Find a local branch of Pirtek. They will be able to make you up the pipe (and are allowed to) and should be able to supply the right connectors, or even re-use the existing end connectors. As previously said you will need to take the old pipe into them.

Simple procedure, remove old pipe, catch and dispose of any fluid that leaks out. Get replacement and fit. Top up fluid reservoir, start engine and turn steering from full lock to full lock whilst checking the fluid level. Top up and repeat until the level stays still.

Its handy to put your front tyres on old newspaper to make turning the steering easier and not damaging your tyres.

Paul


Pirtek's company policy is the same as hse in that they should and most of them will not make a pas hose or brake hose as if it fails it could cause a loss of control, I work with hydraulics everyday and deal with a lot of hose companys.

It is also now an illegal to reuse any hose ends or just fit a new end to a old hose.
Title: Re: Power Steering leak (now with pics working)
Post by: Paul86S2 on 29 August 2009, 21:29
Find a local branch of Pirtek. They will be able to make you up the pipe (and are allowed to) and should be able to supply the right connectors, or even re-use the existing end connectors. As previously said you will need to take the old pipe into them.

Simple procedure, remove old pipe, catch and dispose of any fluid that leaks out. Get replacement and fit. Top up fluid reservoir, start engine and turn steering from full lock to full lock whilst checking the fluid level. Top up and repeat until the level stays still.

Its handy to put your front tyres on old newspaper to make turning the steering easier and not damaging your tyres.

Paul


Pirtek's company policy is the same as hse in that they should and most of them will not make a pas hose or brake hose as if it fails it could cause a loss of control, I work with hydraulics everyday and deal with a lot of hose companys.

It is also now an illegal to reuse any hose ends or just fit a new end to a old hose.

Ok I take note of your experience.

But in the real world I know of lots of people on another list / forum who regularly get high pressure hoses made up by Pirtek for Porsche power steering applications. These may or not be warrantied, and my advice that they may re-use your existing ends may be off the mark.

If this is illegal it seems a bit daft considering you could buy secondhand hoses, but I understand that some or all companies will be worried about being sued in the current claim society.

Paul
Title: Re: Power Steering leak (now with pics working)
Post by: Wayne on 29 August 2009, 21:32
Find a local branch of Pirtek. They will be able to make you up the pipe (and are allowed to) and should be able to supply the right connectors, or even re-use the existing end connectors. As previously said you will need to take the old pipe into them.

Simple procedure, remove old pipe, catch and dispose of any fluid that leaks out. Get replacement and fit. Top up fluid reservoir, start engine and turn steering from full lock to full lock whilst checking the fluid level. Top up and repeat until the level stays still.

Its handy to put your front tyres on old newspaper to make turning the steering easier and not damaging your tyres.

Paul


Pirtek's company policy is the same as hse in that they should and most of them will not make a pas hose or brake hose as if it fails it could cause a loss of control, I work with hydraulics everyday and deal with a lot of hose companys.

It is also now an illegal to reuse any hose ends or just fit a new end to a old hose.

Ok I take note of your experience.

But in the real world I know of lots of people on another list / forum who regularly get high pressure hoses made up by Pirtek for Porsche power steering applications. These may or not be warrantied, and my advice that they may re-use your existing ends may be off the mark.

If this is illegal it seems a bit daft considering you could buy secondhand hoses, but I understand that some or all companies will be worried about being sued in the current claim society.

Paul

It might be that they turn a blind eye and do it.
Title: Re: Power Steering leak (now with pics working)
Post by: Paul86S2 on 29 August 2009, 22:34
The chance of earning a few quid can make some laws / practices dissapear.

Paul
Title: Re: Power Steering leak (now with pics working)
Post by: VW BUSH on 29 August 2009, 22:37
Find a local branch of Pirtek. They will be able to make you up the pipe (and are allowed to) and should be able to supply the right connectors, or even re-use the existing end connectors. As previously said you will need to take the old pipe into them.

Simple procedure, remove old pipe, catch and dispose of any fluid that leaks out. Get replacement and fit. Top up fluid reservoir, start engine and turn steering from full lock to full lock whilst checking the fluid level. Top up and repeat until the level stays still.

Its handy to put your front tyres on old newspaper to make turning the steering easier and not damaging your tyres.

Paul


Pirtek's company policy is the same as hse in that they should and most of them will not make a pas hose or brake hose as if it fails it could cause a loss of control, I work with hydraulics everyday and deal with a lot of hose companys.

It is also now an illegal to reuse any hose ends or just fit a new end to a old hose.

Bang on.

The fittings are available next day if not stock
"Its for a Hydraulic Pump not my Car"
Cash = No questions
Title: Re: Power Steering leak (now with pics working)
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 30 August 2009, 12:53
I would get one second hand, just make sure its good quality.
There are loads of breakers out there...
Title: Re: Power Steering leak (now with pics working)
Post by: filthy on 31 August 2009, 11:03
Thing is, unless you have x-ray vision, you can't tell if its a good one, as the hose degrades from the inside...

Rossy, PM'd you...