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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: mk4Martin on 11 August 2009, 18:21

Title: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: mk4Martin on 11 August 2009, 18:21
Hi

I have always driven VW's normaly mk2 or mainly mk4's and recently skoda vrs.

Could any one tell me the pro's & cons between 8v & 16v mk3's in particular is the 16v alot quicker?
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: VW BUSH on 11 August 2009, 18:23
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Please lock me now before the old argument ensues
8Vs are the best dont belive all the small thingy 16v owners VR's are the slowest of all :evil:
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: Mikester on 11 August 2009, 18:29
Basically.........

NO, THEY ARE BOTH sh!t

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: VW BUSH on 11 August 2009, 18:33
Basically.........

NO, THEY ARE BOTH sh!t

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

The 8v isnt only the 16v is sh!t It's to do with torque :laugh:
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: Matty-MK3 on 11 August 2009, 18:35
8V is slower then it should be
16V is meh.
VR6 heavy on fuel.

Go for the fecking 16V and ignore all the bullsh!t about 8v's keeping up or being faster, it's all f**king sh!te, the MK3 is a big heavy boat and no 8V engine is going to tug it, it's like a fish trying to drag a whale along.
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: Mikester on 11 August 2009, 18:41
8V is slower then it should be
16V is meh.
VR6 heavy on fuel.

Go for the fecking 16V and ignore all the bullsh!t about 8v's keeping up or being faster, it's all f**king sh!te, the MK3 is a big heavy boat and no 8V engine is going to tug it, it's like a fish trying to drag a whale along.

Someone wishes he bought a Vr6. LOL.
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: mk3 tdi on 11 August 2009, 19:01
i found 8v better at pick up and 16v better for top end - have driven them both
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: gtigolfthree on 11 August 2009, 19:07
Thers not much difference between an 8v with a bit of head work and a decent cam and a standard 16v :grin: :laugh: :grin: :laugh: :grin: :laugh: :grin: :laugh: :embarassed:
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: Horney on 11 August 2009, 19:10
8v for fuel economy and cheap insurance (who wants that from a GTI?)
16v for a bit of go
VR6 for noise and grunt but you'll need deep pockets for the thirst.

Nick
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: Matty-MK3 on 11 August 2009, 19:11
i found 8v better at pick up and 16v better for top end - have driven them both

 :rolleyes:

The torque is imaginary and coming from an 8V owner's head, in his anus.

Yes Mikester, you do.  :grin:
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: mk4Martin on 11 August 2009, 19:24
what about official stats?
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: mk3 tdi on 11 August 2009, 19:24
i actually have a 16v - only drove an 8 v for a day and thats what i found. sure other drivers may have had different experiances but thats what i found
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: gtigolfthree on 11 August 2009, 19:32
what about official stats?
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8v approx 115bhp
16v approx 150bhp
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: Madmax on 11 August 2009, 19:35
From the vids on youtube of 8v's vs 16v's, there's hardly anything in it.
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: VW BUSH on 11 August 2009, 19:43
From the vids on youtube of 8v's vs 16v's, there's hardly anything in it.

I can bullseye womprats in my 8v
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: gtigolfthree on 11 August 2009, 19:46
and I dont have to drop gears every time I hit a hill :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: VW BUSH on 11 August 2009, 19:52
and I dont have to drop gears every time I hit a hill :grin: :grin:

Why does it pop out on its own :laugh:
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: JC on 11 August 2009, 19:53
wasting ya time mate - see sense and buy a mk2 .



16v of course  :grin:
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: Mikester on 11 August 2009, 19:57
Buy what you like. You won't ever be as quick as my mk3. Lol.
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: VW BUSH on 11 August 2009, 20:00
Buy what you like. You won't ever be as quick as my mk3. Lol.

Mines faster than your Gonto and any MK2 16v (with dicky tappets) :grin:
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: vw-8v on 11 August 2009, 20:40
ha ha i hav joined this for the first time as read this type of thread hmmm once or twice b4.

drove my m8s 16v last weekend too see diff for myself(his not lowered)
 yeah there a diff it it prob beat my 8v and felt alot more alive top end but long enough road or lack of brains and mine wld hav it  round corners(lowered) and in sight all day and yes std vs std it would beat mine but like suggested in previous reply i don't want the gti 8v for fuel and insurance ha ha of course i do that why it is wot it is, as i love the mk3 it great for both motor ways and b blasts(well very bendy blasts).

yes i a speed freak hence 2 wheeled gsxr 750 for slaying every motherf****ing else on the raod ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha mk3 8v lover for ever
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: Mikester on 11 August 2009, 21:03
Mk3's are definetly sh!t anyway.

Anyone trying to keep up with a good car in their mk3's around the bends will know.
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: Wayne on 11 August 2009, 21:14
what about official stats?

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=121567.new#new

These threads are pointless as people will rave about the 16v which has crap torque to be honest.
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: VW BUSH on 11 August 2009, 21:15
Mk3's are definetly sh!t anyway.

Anyone trying to keep up with a good car in their mk3's around the bends will know.

Wallow wallow bouncy bounce where has he gone  :grin:
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: Mikester on 11 August 2009, 21:17
Mk3's are definetly sh!t anyway.

Anyone trying to keep up with a good car in their mk3's around the bends will know.

Wallow wallow bouncy bounce where has he gone  :grin:

You forgot scrub scrub. But you get the drift.
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: VW BUSH on 11 August 2009, 21:24
Mk3's are definetly sh!t anyway.

Anyone trying to keep up with a good car in their mk3's around the bends will know.

Wallow wallow bouncy bounce where has he gone  :grin:

You forgot scrub scrub. But you get the drift.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62X2WJIywaw

Me tearing up the place :wink:
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: Mikester on 11 August 2009, 21:32
Heres mine on the track last weekend:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epesx_LqvMQ&feature=related
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: DrewGTI on 11 August 2009, 21:43
Mikester. . you have a mk3 yet you seem to hate them and knock them down every post you can! can't work out if its what you think or just taking the piss out of all the other mk3 haters???  :laugh: :huh:



i'm on my 2nd mk3 8v and with no rust and only just over 57k i'm more than happy to keep it!!  :smiley:



also original poster. . . please search!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: VW BUSH on 11 August 2009, 21:44
Took the spoiler off for your sig then :wink:
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: VW BUSH on 11 August 2009, 21:49
Mikester. . you have a mk3 yet you seem to hate them and knock them down every post you can! can't work out if its what you think or just taking the piss out of all the other mk3 haters???  :laugh: :huh:

i'm on my 2nd mk3 8v and with no rust (:grin:) and only just over 57k i'm more than happy to keep it!!  :smiley:

also original poster. . . please search!  :smiley:

Nothing like a bit o self loathing :grin:



Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: Jimp on 11 August 2009, 22:04
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62X2WJIywaw

Me tearing up the place :wink:
That's the best thing I've seen all day  :grin:
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: Mikester on 11 August 2009, 22:06
I dont hate mk3's.

But i dont have my mk3 for it being a speed machine. I like the way they look, and how mine sits and rolls.

And yes over this winter it will become pretty quick in a straight line.

But they still are the worst golf gti. But i love mine :)
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: DrewGTI on 11 August 2009, 22:10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62X2WJIywaw

Me tearing up the place :wink:
That's the best thing I've seen all day  :grin:


erm. . 1.4 what now!?

 :wink:

Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: DrewGTI on 11 August 2009, 22:13
I dont hate mk3's.

But i dont have my mk3 for it being a speed machine. I like the way they look, and how mine sits and rolls.

And yes over this winter it will become pretty quick in a straight line.

But they still are the worst golf gti. But i love mine :)

i dunno, , there is the mk4 gti.  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: Mikester on 11 August 2009, 22:15
Would sooner have the mk4 1.8t ani than a mk3 gti ani.

Only mk3 i love is a VR6, but thats not a GTI.
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: VW BUSH on 11 August 2009, 22:25
Would sooner have the mk4 1.8t ani than a mk3 gti ani.

Only mk3 i love is a VR6, but thats not a GTI.


VR's Rock end of.
My next car is a MK5 in about 5 years time :grin:
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: Mikester on 11 August 2009, 22:27
See all you boys at the strip at spring fest next year.

Better be bringing something powerful.

Haha.
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: Horney on 11 August 2009, 22:47
I'll give you a go in my track car with only 8vs!

nick
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: Reasty on 11 August 2009, 22:51
Do we have to have this dicussion every week?  :grin: :laugh:
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: Mikester on 11 August 2009, 22:54
Nick, im on a mission. I wont be having 8vs by spring. lol.
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: Horney on 11 August 2009, 22:55
Yeah, repetition is a good learning tool!

nick
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: Horney on 11 August 2009, 22:55
Nick, im on a mission. I wont be having 8vs by spring. lol.

Even with your 12 valves I'll take you on!

nick
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: Mikester on 11 August 2009, 22:57
DEAL. lol.

Better cut down the food fund even more to fund a blower.
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: Horney on 11 August 2009, 23:00
I reckon it'll be pretty close unless you do fit a blower in which case I'll get a nice view of your boot.

nick
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: Mikester on 11 August 2009, 23:39
Needs to be done, to sleigh these type of threads. Mk2 8v keeps on the arse if a vr.
Title: Re: Mk3 16V vs mk3 8V
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 11 August 2009, 23:58
I'm fed up with this lol!  :grin: :grin: :grin: