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Title: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quin (Quad/Twin) Lights
Post by: funkyfive on 09 August 2009, 07:07
Does anyone have better bulbs in there Hellas Quads?

I really want some brighter bulbs on the cheap and that do not melt the lens covers?

Before anyone says get a HID conversion, I really cannot afford it at the moment and would rather spend the money on getting the detailing done!

My current bulbs

Outer - GE 50310MU 12v 55w H1
Inner - Osram 12v 55w H3U
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quads
Post by: gtigolfthree on 09 August 2009, 08:25
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Osram-Night-Breaker-Nightbreaker-H1-Bulbs-Free-501s_W0QQitemZ260455857369QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item3ca460fcd9&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quads
Post by: Adam on 09 August 2009, 12:41
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HID-Xenon-CONVERSION-KIT-H1-H3-H4-H7-H11-9005-9006-9007_W0QQitemZ250477538046QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item3a519feafe&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_2889wt_1165

The same price to upgrade your lights you can have HIDs. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quads
Post by: gtigolfthree on 09 August 2009, 13:09
Thats a good price but its the fact that they are illegal and dazzle other drivers that puts me off.
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quads
Post by: Adam on 09 August 2009, 13:56
Thats a good price but its the fact that they are illegal and dazzle other drivers that puts me off.

They dont dazzle other drivers in the Hellas as they are projector headlights, thus not scattering the beam.
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quads
Post by: funkyfive on 10 August 2009, 08:49
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HID-Xenon-CONVERSION-KIT-H1-H3-H4-H7-H11-9005-9006-9007_W0QQitemZ250477538046QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item3a519feafe&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_2889wt_1165

The same price to upgrade your lights you can have HIDs. :rolleyes:

Looks great do you have these in your car? Are these for the dipped beam or main beam?
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quads
Post by: LazyLunatic on 10 August 2009, 10:25
im looking into getting hids for my hella quad's.

what is the best temp bulb to use? any got a recommedation?

cheers :)
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quads
Post by: Adam on 10 August 2009, 12:30
This is the same kit as mine-
http://www.hids4u.co.uk/h1-ultimate-carpro-hid-xenon-conversion-kit-special-offer-pric-c-13-p-1-pr-62.html

Got em a bit cheaper.

HIDs are for the outer lens, diped beam.

im looking into getting hids for my hella quad's.

what is the best temp bulb to use? any got a recommedation?

cheers :)

I would say 6k, but its what you like -

(http://www.meccaone.org/images/hid-chart.jpg)

Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quads
Post by: funkyfive on 10 August 2009, 13:02
This is the same kit as mine-
http://www.hids4u.co.uk/h1-ultimate-carpro-hid-xenon-conversion-kit-special-offer-pric-c-13-p-1-pr-62.html

Got em a bit cheaper.

HIDs are for the outer lens, diped beam.

im looking into getting hids for my hella quad's.

what is the best temp bulb to use? any got a recommedation?

cheers :)

I would say 6k, but its what you like -

(http://www.meccaone.org/images/hid-chart.jpg)



I would go with the 6k, i assume thats what you have?? The ebay HID conversion should do the trix I guess compared to the price of yours?
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quads
Post by: Reasty on 10 August 2009, 13:07
Just make sure its the kit that does both main and dip beam,there is several kits out there especially on ebay that only do dip beam and this will fail the mot.
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quads
Post by: Adam on 10 August 2009, 13:09
Yea I'v got 6k, it makes a huge change.

They may take a bit longer to warm up than mine but they will still work, also I had a little problem of the headlight switch sending a trickle of power to the HIDs when on side lights, this ment they flickered, so got myself a Relay kit from eBay-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190249975174#ebayphotohosting

They are so easy to wire up,
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quads
Post by: Adam on 10 August 2009, 13:10
Just make sure its the kit that does both main and dip beam,there is several kits out there especially on ebay that only do dip beam and this will fail the mot.

What since when, H1s only do dipped beam?  :huh:
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quads
Post by: LazyLunatic on 10 August 2009, 14:39
Just make sure its the kit that does both main and dip beam,there is several kits out there especially on ebay that only do dip beam and this will fail the mot.

What since when, H1s only do dipped beam?  :huh:

oooo this is interesting now

 need a few more peeps to comment on what is fact......

Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quads
Post by: Adam on 10 August 2009, 14:47
He has his facts wrong, mine passed the mot with this.

He is getting confused with the H4 bulb that is ment to have 2 filliments (Dipped and main beam) used in the lower spec Golfs.
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quads
Post by: funkyfive on 10 August 2009, 21:04
He has his facts wrong, mine passed the mot with this.

He is getting confused with the H4 bulb that is ment to have 2 filliments (Dipped and main beam) used in the lower spec Golfs.

So what did you do about yr main beam?
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quads
Post by: Adam on 10 August 2009, 21:09
They are on the inner lens, why would you change them? Outer lens does dipped ONLY (Thats the projector that the HIDs go onto) and inner does sidelights and main beam-

This is with main beams on
(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3681/dsc0014saq.jpg)
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quads
Post by: funkyfive on 10 August 2009, 21:24
They are on the inner lens, why would you change them? Outer lens does dipped ONLY (Thats the projector that the HIDs go onto) and inner does sidelights and main beam-


Looks good, i am sold. Did you install the fogs yourself as my golf does not have them?
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quads
Post by: Adam on 10 August 2009, 21:27
:afro: You wont look back!

Nope mine came with them. My car is not a "J" Reg btw,
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quads
Post by: funkyfive on 10 August 2009, 21:31
:afro: You wont look back!

Nope mine came with them. My car is not a "J" Reg btw,

lol. Damn looks like I will have to wire some in.

"Just wanted to say your interior looks the nuts!!!"
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quads
Post by: funkyfive on 11 August 2009, 06:56
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Osram-Night-Breaker-Nightbreaker-H1-Bulbs-Free-501s_W0QQitemZ260455857369QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item3ca460fcd9&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Does anyone have these in there Hellas?
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quads
Post by: VR6-Joe on 11 August 2009, 10:21
Makes me laugh when I see topics like this where thick as sh!t people are giving out false information. Do your research before posting you flipping idiots. You're just adding to the confusion which isn't helpful at all.

However, Adam knows his stuff, so his information can be trusted.

I ran with H1 8000k HID's as my dipped beam (Outer lamp/Projector) in my Hella quads. I upgraded my sidelight bulbs (Inner lamp) with Phillips bluevision '233' bulbs. The high beam (Inner lamp) bulbs were ignored because I simply never used them after fitting the HID's. There's really no need to.

I wanted to put 6000k HID's in my fogs but then you can't put the casing on the back :(
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quads
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 11 August 2009, 10:39
Makes me laugh when I see topics like this where thick as sh!t people are giving out false information. Do your research before posting you flipping idiots. You're just adding to the confusion which isn't helpful at all.

However, Adam knows his stuff, so his information can be trusted.

I ran with H1 8000k HID's as my dipped beam (Outer lamp/Projector) in my Hella quads. I upgraded my sidelight bulbs (Inner lamp) with Phillips bluevision '233' bulbs. The high beam (Inner lamp) bulbs were ignored because I simply never used them after fitting the HID's. There's really no need to.

I wanted to put 6000k HID's in my fogs but then you can't put the casing on the back :(

Clearly you are thick as sh!t to by calling Hella Twins...Hella Quads lol!  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Twins
Post by: LazyLunatic on 11 August 2009, 11:07
i just dont understand all the agression here............



:D :D :D
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Twins
Post by: Adam on 11 August 2009, 11:31
Makes me laugh when I see topics like this where thick as sh!t people are giving out false information. Do your research before posting you flipping idiots. You're just adding to the confusion which isn't helpful at all.

However, Adam knows his stuff, so his information can be trusted.

I ran with H1 8000k HID's as my dipped beam (Outer lamp/Projector) in my Hella quads. I upgraded my sidelight bulbs (Inner lamp) with Phillips bluevision '233' bulbs. The high beam (Inner lamp) bulbs were ignored because I simply never used them after fitting the HID's. There's really no need to.

I wanted to put 6000k HID's in my fogs but then you can't put the casing on the back :(

Clearly you are thick as sh!t to by calling Hella Twins...Hella Quads lol!  :grin: :grin: :grin:


[smart arse]
English Lesson-
Singular- Hella Twin
Plurial- Hella Quads
[/smart arse]
 :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Twins
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 11 August 2009, 11:35
Okay then smartarse, tell me that all four lamps are EXACTLY the same...


The two outer lamps are the same (twin), the two inner lamps are the same (twin).


 :cool:
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Twins
Post by: LazyLunatic on 11 August 2009, 11:37
yeah! what ya guna do now!??!? huh!!!!
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Twins
Post by: Adam on 11 August 2009, 11:38
Please google "Hella Twins" then google "Hella Quads"

eat that biatch!  :grin:

yeah! what ya guna do now!??!? huh!!!!

2x the search results

 :grin: :grin:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hella+twins

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hella+quads

Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Twins
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 11 August 2009, 11:42
I'm emailing Hella  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Twins
Post by: Adam on 11 August 2009, 11:44
I'm emailing Hella  :grin: :grin: :grin:
:grin: :grin:

We had this argument in the car on the way back from Swindon.

:grin: :grin:

Hella use "hella twin" for the Supertone kits

http://www.autobarn.net/twinsuphorki.html
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Twins
Post by: Wayne on 11 August 2009, 11:52
I have always known them as Hella twins but quads would also be right.
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Twins
Post by: funkyfive on 11 August 2009, 11:55
Oh my god lads, was not expecting the topic to turn into a slanging match lol  :sick:

I have decided to go with HID for the outer lens, the same as GTiAdams and put better bulbs in the inner lens (Not sure which bulbs to get?) as suggested by VR6-Joe due to not having any fogs and really cannot be ars*d installing and wiring them.

So one question to go is which type of bulb to go for in the HIDs? The only worry I have is that i do not what to damage the lens. GTiAdam was kind enough to assist me with a picture of the different beams.
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Twins
Post by: Adam on 11 August 2009, 11:59
Oh my god lads, was not expecting the topic to turn into a slanging match lol  :sick:

I have decided to go with HID for the outer lens, the same as GTiAdams and put better bulbs in the inner lens (Not sure which bulbs to get?) as suggested by VR6-Joe due to not having any fogs and really cannot be ars*d installing and wiring them.

So one question to go is which type of bulb to go for in the HIDs? The only worry I have is that i do not what to damage the lens. GTiAdam was kind enough to assist me with a picture of the different beams.

Dw its only play fighting, no doubt shady will be round mine to argue while he cleans his car and I watch.   :tongue:

Go with the bulbs VR6-Joe said. You cant go wrong then.
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Twins
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 11 August 2009, 12:00
Adam, I will argue my point and I await the email from Hella telling me what the exact name of the lights are, I can't wait to rub the email in your face :P


To funkyfive, HIDs are the way forward :)
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Twins
Post by: funkyfive on 11 August 2009, 12:03
As aways Guys awesome!!! This forum is without a doubt the best knowledge and help for Mk3 Golfs!!! And the banter is top dollar as well!
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Twins
Post by: Adam on 11 August 2009, 12:06
As aways Guys awesome!!! This forum is without a doubt the best knowledge and help for Mk3 Golfs!!! And the banter is top dollar as well!

:afro: Got to love it, let us know how you get on. When you buying them?
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Twins
Post by: funkyfive on 11 August 2009, 19:14
After the 22nd, once i've get some dollar
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Twins/Quad Lights
Post by: funkyfive on 12 August 2009, 06:44
Just for interest this article maybe helpful to people who just want to upgrade there bulbs

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/products/products/60471/bulb_test_h1_blue.html

Best bulbs according to autoexpress

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Philips-Blue-Vision-H1-Bulbs-FREE-Pair-W5W-501_W0QQitemZ260450861309QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item3ca414c0fd&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262

Also for other forum users, why choose HID over a decent set of bulbs like the above?
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Twins/Quad Lights
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 12 August 2009, 11:27
Just to confirm, I received an email from Hella and this is what they sent:


"These lamps do not have a name as such.  People often refer to them
generically as twin or quad conversion headlamp sets.   Basically they are
the lamps that upgrade the standard H4 single light unit to main and dip
light units within a plastic frame.  Therefore 2 lights either side (twin)
or 4 lights on the vehicle (quad).   Also available is the upgrade known as
a III in a IV look and a few other variants in chrome.  See pictures
attached.   It's only our auxillary lamps that tend to have specific names."



So technically they aren't twins or quads, but I think from now on we should call them Quins :)
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Twins/Quad Lights
Post by: funkyfive on 12 August 2009, 11:50
Just to confirm, I received an email from Hella and this is what they sent:


"These lamps do not have a name as such.  People often refer to them
generically as twin or quad conversion headlamp sets.   Basically they are
the lamps that upgrade the standard H4 single light unit to main and dip
light units within a plastic frame.  Therefore 2 lights either side (twin)
or 4 lights on the vehicle (quad).   Also available is the upgrade known as
a III in a IV look and a few other variants in chrome.  See pictures
attached.   It's only our auxillary lamps that tend to have specific names."



So technically they aren't twins or quads, but I think from now on we should call them Quins :)

lol you have too much time on your hands!!!!!!!!!!! :wink:
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Twins/Quad Lights
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 12 August 2009, 11:55
Why'd you think I'm a moderator and I'm always on the forum?  :drool: :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Twins/Quad Lights
Post by: funkyfive on 12 August 2009, 16:35
lol,

Which kevin to choose?

4300k
6000k
8000k
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quin (Quad/Twin) Lights
Post by: Adam on 12 August 2009, 17:50
8k is too bright
6k is a nice white with a slight blue tinge
4.3k is just about white

6k I would say
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quin (Quad/Twin) Lights
Post by: badboyclub on 12 August 2009, 17:59
ive just ordered some 6k h1s for my smoked hellas hopefully they will be ok
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quin (Quad/Twin) Lights
Post by: funkyfive on 12 August 2009, 18:58
ive just ordered some 6k h1s for my smoked hellas hopefully they will be ok

You got HIDs?
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quin (Quad/Twin) Lights
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 12 August 2009, 19:09
ive just ordered some 6k h1s for my smoked hellas hopefully they will be ok

You got HIDs?

No, he just ordered them :P
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quin (Quad/Twin) Lights
Post by: badboyclub on 12 August 2009, 19:50
yeah just ordered hids will hopefully have them early next week lights are shocking at moment so need something half decent
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quin (Quad/Twin) Lights
Post by: funkyfive on 13 August 2009, 14:17
Dangerously thinking about getting my HIDs before the 22nd!!
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quin (Quad/Twin) Lights
Post by: Adam on 13 August 2009, 14:57
Do it you wont be disappointed. They work very well and give your car "that" look.
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quin (Quad/Twin) Lights
Post by: funkyfive on 13 August 2009, 16:10
Do it you wont be disappointed. They work very well and give your car "that" look.

Make the bad man go away!!! lol  :evil:
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quads
Post by: funkyfive on 13 August 2009, 23:00
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HID-Xenon-CONVERSION-KIT-H1-H3-H4-H7-H11-9005-9006-9007_W0QQitemZ250477538046QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item3a519feafe&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_2889wt_1165

The same price to upgrade your lights you can have HIDs. :rolleyes:

I am going to go for it 6000k H1 Bulbs.

GTiAdam do you know anyone thats bought this kit from this Guy on ebay and as VR6-Joe said you word can be trusted!!!
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quin (Quad/Twin) Lights
Post by: Adam on 13 August 2009, 23:19
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HID-Xenon-CONVERSION-KIT-H1-H3-H4-H7-H11-9005-9006-9007_W0QQitemZ250477538046QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item3a519feafe&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_2889wt_1165

The same price to upgrade your lights you can have HIDs. :rolleyes:

I am going to go for it 6000k H1 Bulbs.

GTiAdam do you know anyone thats bought this kit from this Guy on ebay and as VR6-Joe said you word can be trusted!!!

I dont know of anyone who has bought from this seller but if im aware there are only a few "cheap" HID kits about so two sellers could be selling the same product at different prices.

Don't know about that last bit  :evil:
Title: Re: Uprated bulbs for Hella Quin (Quad/Twin) Lights
Post by: funkyfive on 14 August 2009, 07:28
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HID-Xenon-CONVERSION-KIT-H1-H3-H4-H7-H11-9005-9006-9007_W0QQitemZ250477538046QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item3a519feafe&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_2889wt_1165

The same price to upgrade your lights you can have HIDs. :rolleyes:

I am going to go for it 6000k H1 Bulbs.

GTiAdam do you know anyone thats bought this kit from this Guy on ebay and as VR6-Joe said you word can be trusted!!!

I dont know of anyone who has bought from this seller but if im aware there are only a few "cheap" HID kits about so two sellers could be selling the same product at different prices.

Don't know about that last bit  :evil:

lol no worries I am going to go for it! Its going to take 8 to 22 days from China. So i will update the forum once its arrived and installed. I will also take installation pictures and note any comments.

So its a China special with H1 6000k bulbs.