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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: AlanD on 02 August 2009, 10:07
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Well, coincidence or not (new wheels) my low brake pad warning light has come on and to be fair Im due new brakes soon id have thought. Being a bit moded I think it would be rude not to upgrade so apart from the obvious R32 brakes, what are peoples opinions on the best brakes to upgrade to?
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What about Alcons?
I had them on my last car, the braking power was amazing, fairly expensive, but well worth it.
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There are literally dozens of aftermarket set-ups out there Alan :drool:
The question should really be "I have a budget of £XXXX, what is the best set-up?". :wink:
Otherwise I'll say get the Bugatti brake set-up :laugh: (420mm ceramic discs :shocked:)
The set-ups that people generally go for are:-
1. Cupra/S3/R32 Front brakes. (Around £550)
This is a common upgrade, due to the low cost and cheap replacement OEM parts.
This consists of single piston calipers and massive 345mm vented discs. You will need 18inch wheels for this I think. Link to part numbers and cheap supplier: http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=186468
2. AP Racing 4 piston Caliper Big Brakes (Around £1500)
Comes with: 2 Piece 330x28mm Slotted Vaned Rotors, 4 Piston Calipers, Caliper Mounting Brackets, Stainless Steel Brake Lines (Front Only), and Street Performance Pads (Front Only)
Requires: 18"+ wheels and possibly spacers
http://www.apracing.com/info/product...056+_1728_1064
3. AP Racing 6 piston Caliper Big Brakes (Around £1900)
Comes with: 2 Piece 330x28mm Slotted Vaned Rotors, 6 Piston Calipers, Caliper Mounting Brackets, Stainless Steel Brake Lines (Front Only), and Street Performance Pads (Front Only)
Requires: 17"+ wheels and possibly spacers
http://www.apracing.com/info/product...1015_1729_1064
4. Seat Brembo Brake Upgrade (Around £1450)
Offical Seat Brembo Brake upgrade. 4 piston. Part Number: 1P0071450
18inch wheels required.
5. ECS Stage 5 Big Brake Kit (Around £1500)
6 Piston Monobloc Porsche Calipers (5 colours available)
- OEM Porsche Pad Hardware
- Hawk Brake Pads - High Performance Street Compound
- ECS DOT Approved Stainless-Steel brake lines
- ECS Custom Caliper mounting hardware
- ECS Lightweight 352x30mm 2 piece directional rotor
Available from www.awesome-gti.co.uk
6. Alcon 343mm 4pot Big Brake Conversion (£1550.00)
Alcon Big brake conversion consisting of Alcon 4 Pot calipers, 343mm rotors with seperate bells, carriers and pads to suit the application.
The car will require 18" wheels to clear the outside edge of the calipers and spacers may be needed to ensure there is no fouling of the face of the caliper on the rear of the wheel.
From www.regal-auto.co.uk
7. TAROX upgrades 4 pot to 12 pot for GTI. (up to £2350)
Includes single or two piece rotors with carriers and pads
Even my 10 pots fit under 17" Team dynamics alloys.
Available from www.awesome-gti.co.uk
HTH :smiley:
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Hurdy your a legend, thanks mate ;)
From looking at the prices it look like its going to be the R32 brakes.
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I read somewhere that the B7 Audi RS4 brakes will fit (under 18's) - these are 8 pot brembos and 365mm discs on floating hubs.
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I think they are going to be waaaay too expensive for me. I think the usual R32 upgrade is the only real viable option.
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why don't you get some cheap discs and decent pads??
thats what Mr Ivor normally recommends if you're on a bit of a budget :smiley:
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why don't you get some cheap discs and decent pads??
thats what Mr Ivor normally recommends if you're on a bit of a budget :smiley:
Would the R32 setup be just as good? Im not really on a budget so to speak, car needs looking after at any cost. I just REALLY dont fancy spending anywhere near a grand on some brakes is all.
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why don't you get some cheap discs and decent pads??
thats what Mr Ivor normally recommends if you're on a bit of a budget :smiley:
Would the R32 setup be just as good? Im not really on a budget so to speak, car needs looking after at any cost. I just REALLY dont fancy spending anywhere near a grand on some brakes is all.
will no doubt improve things but then you got to look at long term costs at replacing R32 discs and pads which i wouldn't have thought are exactly cheap!!!
if it was me i'd get some plain discs and some decent pads :smiley:
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Thanks mate.
Well, I dont have any money this month due to wheels and going on hols at the start of September so will give Ruben at Tuning Werks a call when I get back and try and sort something out.
(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z25/harwealth_2007/money-1-1.jpg?t=1249288876)
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Go on uk-mivs and pm DaveB, he sells kits/parts to do conversions, was £500 for 4pot brembo brakes for the mk4 with everything you need :wink:
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is the seat cupra front set up a 100% fitment to the golf mk5,
Does anyone know if the brake package offer is available to everyone or just the guys of the leon cupra forum ???
Cheers in advance !
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is the seat cupra front set up a 100% fitment to the golf mk5,
Does anyone know if the brake package offer is available to everyone or just the guys of the leon cupra forum ???
Cheers in advance !
yes it is as i bought a set from a Seat Dealer and it went on no probs. It is identical to the R32 set up apart from the caliper bits being painted Red instead of Blue. But you must have 18's.
(http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/Misc/Misc_Performance_pictures/TFSI-images/Overviewpage/brakes/Photo039_big.jpg)
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is the seat cupra front set up a 100% fitment to the golf mk5,
Does anyone know if the brake package offer is available to everyone or just the guys of the leon cupra forum ???
Cheers in advance !
yes it is as i bought a set from a Seat Dealer and it went on no probs. It is identical to the R32 set up apart from the caliper bits being painted Red instead of Blue. But you must have 18's.
@ chungster
How much difference did the R32/ Cupra set up make to the braking power and feel?
IMHO they should have been fitted to the GTI/Edition 30 as standard....
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Also how much were they from Seat?
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Also how much were they from Seat?
Why are you worried you dont use your brakes anymore?
Alan 1 - 1 Dan :kiss:
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I FVCKING WILL DO IN JULY YOU MOFO !!!!!!!!!!!!!
This scoring system is going to end in tears :D :D
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This scoring system is going to end in tears :D :D
:grin: i think you could be right.......
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Hows your car ticking over? All ok !?
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM !
Alan 2 - 1 Dan
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@ chungster
How much difference did the R32/ Cupra set up make to the braking power and feel?
IMHO they should have been fitted to the GTI/Edition 30 as standard....
Not quite night and day but for £555 (delivered) that I paid 12 months ago it is the best VFM upgrade u can do IMO. I'm still using OEM pads mind, but the stopping power is so much better than the 312's I was genuinely surprised (never drove a car with them before). VW really should have fitted these as standard on the GTI/ED30s. Bite at top of pedal is sharper, and I was having an interesting trying to heal and toe out on track (and general driving lol) and you can definitely feel them working when you stamp on it compared to the 312's, which I never trusted braking late with. Made them feel like the 288's I had on my Ibiza Cupra before I put a set of AP's on.
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You could always upgrade the rears too.
I did a decent search and ended up going for the rear S3 full upgrade. Calipers, discs, pads etc.
Stock GTI/ED30 rears have 286mm solid discs
S3 rear upgrade have 310mm VENTED discs, slightly larger pistons and slightly larger pads.
Including fitting I managed to source a set for £250 :cool:
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Did any of you guys have any issues with the extra weight, (notice any differance), this upgrade is bloody heavy at 15kgs extra for the fronts only
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If you are worried about adding weight, then the only options for upgrades are alloy calipers and 2 piece floating discs. The TAROX's on my car are actually lighter than the OEM fronts. :cool: