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Title: clay and wax
Post by: bobreece on 26 July 2009, 21:36
can someone advise me on the best clay to get for a first time user?
also what wax been looking at petes 53?

and need a good polish?

already got snow foam, cg m seal,

cheers guys
Title: Re: clay and wax
Post by: Uruk Hai on 26 July 2009, 21:38
If you've never used clay before I would recommend the Megs quick clay kit, easy to use and not too aggressive.
Title: Re: clay and wax
Post by: waxamomo on 27 July 2009, 14:14
Agreed, the Meg's Smooth Surface Clay Kit is the one to go for, it has everything you need to get going, have a look at the video at the bottom of this link:

http://www.waxamomo.co.uk/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=115&idcategory=4

I would recommend going for the Dodo Juice Lime Prime Polish:

http://www.waxamomo.co.uk/productcart/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=19

And as for Pete's 53, it's a great wax, also have a quick look at Collinite 915, or for a bit more money some of the Dodo range:

http://www.waxamomo.co.uk/productcart/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=9

And don't forget, if you place an order to use the Golfgtiforum discount code: gimme5

Chris


Title: Re: clay and wax
Post by: bobreece on 28 July 2009, 15:52
cheers m8 need a good ploish as well any recomendations
Title: Re: clay and wax
Post by: Uruk Hai on 28 July 2009, 16:23
I know not everyon likes it and to be honest I used to think it was rubbish but now I know how to use it propperly I'm getting very good results with Autoglym Super resin polish. The only other thing I would add is that its best to put a coat of your chosen wax on as soon as you buff off the SRP  :smiley:
Title: Re: clay and wax
Post by: waxamomo on 29 July 2009, 08:32
Yes I agree with above, AG SRP is a great polish.

Also consider, Dodo Juice Lime Prime and Poorboy's Professional Polish.

Chris
Title: Re: clay and wax
Post by: Guy on 29 July 2009, 09:04
AG SRP is over rated imo.. i know others really rate it but its only a basic polish.

I used to use it when i first started trying to get a shine on a car instead of just washing dirt off... and I believe that as a first time product people see a result and then think it is remarkable, but having used many other products out there I think it is quite mediocre.

what people tend not to realise is that it is only part of the process and that preparation before washing and polishing and final application of sealant and waxes post polishing are equally important
Title: Re: clay and wax
Post by: Uruk Hai on 29 July 2009, 13:39
If your in two minds after reading the above comments regarding which polish to use and how best to use it have a look at this test in which SRP was just one of the polish's tested (I'm posting this link as I dont think there is anything comparable on here)

http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=10656
Title: Re: clay and wax
Post by: waxamomo on 29 July 2009, 14:02
Is it swirl removal your after? and by hand?

Although the link above is a great test, a great read, and obvisouly a great result for SRP, you must remember that this is from 5 hits!! Can you imagine how long it would take to do a whole car 5 times by hand with SRP. And after all that, all you have done is mask them, not removed any swirls at all.

Chris


Title: Re: clay and wax
Post by: Uruk Hai on 29 July 2009, 15:02
I wasnt advocating that everything in that thread be followed to the letter I was trying to provide a way of seeing what a good polish when used propperly is capable of achieving in a unbiased test as oppose to people just airing their views on a product which only serves to inform the OP what products we do or dont like  :smiley:
Title: Re: clay and wax
Post by: waxamomo on 29 July 2009, 15:40
It was a great link for people to read, and I completely agree that it was from an unbiased view. The more links to DW the better, there is so much good info available  :smiley:
Title: Re: clay and wax
Post by: Guy on 29 July 2009, 17:11
agree on the links to DW being worthwhile and that link does contain a very good write up... but how likely is someone to do 5 passes on a car... by hand?!

uruk... i can see where you are coming from wrt AG SRP, however it does contain fillers as waxamomo pointed out... I'd want to know that if I was spending that long polishing a car that the swirls were gone and not just filled... otherwise all the ard work will be undone in a matter of days? non?
Title: Re: clay and wax
Post by: dTEA on 29 July 2009, 17:25
so guy, which polish then?  SRP is the one of choice for me, just cos i aint got that much time and a quick cover up is needed most fo the time for the missus's car.  Got some swirls that need to "go" though.
Title: Re: clay and wax
Post by: Uruk Hai on 29 July 2009, 17:34
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agree on the links to DW being worthwhile and that link does contain a very good write up... but how likely is someone to do 5 passes on a car... by hand?!

uruk... i can see where you are coming from wrt AG SRP, however it does contain fillers as waxamomo pointed out... I'd want to know that if I was spending that long polishing a car that the swirls were gone and not just filled... otherwise all the ard work will be undone in a matter of days? non?

Completely agree and although its too late now I should have put the previous post into the correct context and think your point (Guy) about polish just being one step in the whole process is the most important point in this thread owing to the fact that a lot of people (untill recently myself included) didnt know anything about the differences between a polish, a sealer and a wax ! I appreciate I didnt do it in a very effective way but I was trying to show albeit in a rather extreme way just what the correct product applied in the correct way can do and all whilst being compared like for like against similar products
Title: Re: clay and wax
Post by: Guy on 29 July 2009, 17:57
so guy, which polish then?  SRP is the one of choice for me, just cos i aint got that much time and a quick cover up is needed most fo the time for the missus's car.  Got some swirls that need to "go" though.

SRP is ok for what you say you use it for... it is just that a lot of people advocate for everything!  :laugh:

'my interior needs cleaning' - use some SRP mate
'my black trim is faded' - use some SRP mate
'my botty is dirty' - use some SRP mate!

i digress, if i am polishing by hand I prefer dodo lime prime, easy on/off and works a treat.. seems to last forever too... LP also doesn't contain oils so is a perfect base for waxes & sealants of your choice

this thread contains pichers of lime prime applied via a rotary with some great results.. the swirls have been removed and not just filled http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=127958 (http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=127958)

if i am swirlbusting with a machine polisher then I use either megs or menz final finish polishes... the menz polishes provide a good base for glazes then sealants then wax
Title: Re: clay and wax
Post by: Guy on 29 July 2009, 18:05
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agree on the links to DW being worthwhile and that link does contain a very good write up... but how likely is someone to do 5 passes on a car... by hand?!

uruk... i can see where you are coming from wrt AG SRP, however it does contain fillers as waxamomo pointed out... I'd want to know that if I was spending that long polishing a car that the swirls were gone and not just filled... otherwise all the ard work will be undone in a matter of days? non?

Completely agree and although its too late now I should have put the previous post into the correct context and think your point (Guy) about polish just being one step in the whole process is the most important point in this thread owing to the fact that a lot of people (untill recently myself included) didnt know anything about the differences between a polish, a sealer and a wax ! I appreciate I didnt do it in a very effective way but I was trying to show albeit in a rather extreme way just what the correct product applied in the correct way can do and all whilst being compared like for like against similar products

thank you  :smiley: although you have given me an idea  :lipsrsealed: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: clay and wax
Post by: dTEA on 31 July 2009, 20:14
Nice one for that Guy, no then if I'm not to use SRP to clean my botty with :grin:, what order do i need to use the Dodo, wax etc?  Polish then Wax, but what Wax...probs already in the thread but the little needs putting to bed and i'm being called  :laugh: :laugh: