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Title: Best Components for Front and Back
Post by: Red_Tekk on 23 July 2009, 08:27
Looking at putting a set of components front and back amplified, got a budget of £150 for each so £300 in total, and will be using ebay...

...Anyone name some decent models, brands?!
Title: Re: Best Components for Front and Back
Post by: crazy_e on 24 July 2009, 12:08
Hi,

I have got in the front infinity kappas 60.7cs's and well just amazing expencive but amazin i dnt know what you pay for them now but i got them 2 years ago and well i paid 300 for them and they come with tweeters :)

u can put them as loud as u want if they are amplified and i cant get them to fat or make funny noises and i love loud music as long as it is crystal clear :)
Title: Re: Best Components for Front and Back
Post by: dTEA on 28 July 2009, 20:44
Cheaper by miles are the Alpine SPG 17CS, which are getting quite good reviews for the £130 mark...or lower if you look around...summat to do with the actual build shape of the speaker and the crossover wiring...

These are what i'm getting and running off a new headunit as the VW stuff just aint upto par...to much high and low end with no clarity and the midrange is just poor...just debating the headunit at the mo, but will let you know as summats going in this weekend! :wink:
Title: Re: Best Components for Front and Back
Post by: B-chi on 29 July 2009, 10:22
Mate I replied in your other post. JBL 6550s I've got are spot on off 150wrms. Also look up budget cdt's. Loads better than alpine but this is Just my humble opinion. Stick with your stock rears & that gives you loads more options up front
Title: Re: Best Components for Front and Back
Post by: dTEA on 31 July 2009, 20:03
Okay then, with the components up front, what set up did you opt for, as i forgot that the bloody stock set up is 3 banded, with low end, mids and tweeters...something i forgot when ordering my alpines :embarassed: with them in and not amped, not overly impressed on the mid-low end as the mid range OEM's had to stay in situ...something to do with the crossover for them meaning either no mid or retain the OEM and original tweeter.  :undecided: confused for sure, as i thought they could split the signal for all to the low/mid component and just send the high to the tweeter without any messing?

in terms of clarity at lower levels though...spot on...with a little tweaking and my Kicker sub in it should be business as usual :cool:
Title: Re: Best Components for Front and Back
Post by: B-chi on 31 July 2009, 23:09
Dtea what do you mean by 3 banded? 3 way?

In mine it was a standard 2 way setup. I just replaced the oems, amped em up, sound deadened the inner & outer door skin, crossed them over at 60Hz & I'm getting loads of mid bass. Sub handles all under 60Hz.

Have I got the right end of the stick. 
Title: Re: Best Components for Front and Back
Post by: dTEA on 31 July 2009, 23:34
yeah, its the info from the install lot...so hmmmmn thats why i'm posting it up to see what others have had to do.

They are basically saying that the feed from the OEM loom from the headunit sends out 2 cables.  One is to the 17" speaker at the far end of the door, the other is to the mid in the middle of the door, which is then split to run to the tweeter.  They are saying that the way the mid is crossed over the mid range cannot be sent to the 17 " component at the far end of the door.
Title: Re: Best Components for Front and Back
Post by: B-chi on 01 August 2009, 09:31
I've only got 1 speaker in my door.

That sounds like a 3 way oem setup. That'll just be how they're crossed over. If you where to buy new comps you'd have seperate crossovers with them so could go either 2 or 3 way. The hu sends say 20-20khz & the crossover decides what goes where.

Again I feel like I might have misunderstood.
Title: Re: Best Components for Front and Back
Post by: dTEA on 01 August 2009, 09:36
It is a a 3 way OEM setup, but according the installers they are saying that the OEM wiring is already split into 2 sources prior to getting to the OEM speakers.  This then means the mid and tweeter are running on one source and then crossed over...apparently  Not sure if I buy into this thinking, as surely they would be able to combine the 2 sources, then use the new crossover unit to split to the new components???
Title: Re: Best Components for Front and Back
Post by: B-chi on 01 August 2009, 09:43
In any setup with more than 1 type of speaker sub/midbass/midrange/tweeter, you need to only 'give' that speaker the frequencies it's designed to take.

So in essence all the oem system is doing is splitting the signal to the respective speaker exactly like an aftermarket set of comps.

So you've installed new comps or using standard ones with new hu.
Title: Re: Best Components for Front and Back
Post by: dTEA on 01 August 2009, 10:18
aftermarket as the oem were lacking mid range. its the oem split thats the issue
Title: Re: Best Components for Front and Back
Post by: B-chi on 01 August 2009, 11:47
Snip the speaker cable from hu, run that into crossover, then run new cable to speakers. Job done.
Title: Re: Best Components for Front and Back
Post by: dTEA on 01 August 2009, 14:14
Been back to the actual installers and they are gonna strip it back out on Monday, and see what is going on.  I've said I'm not happy with the results considering the price over leaving the OEM stuff in.  Might as well have saved myself a load money and just changed the HU and installed the Sub!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Best Components for Front and Back
Post by: B-chi on 01 August 2009, 16:11
That is odd. If your putting new comps in they'll have there own crossover designed specifically for them.

I would of thought they would rip out all the old & just put new in! Oh well