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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: VR6_Wherry on 21 July 2009, 16:04
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I've been reading through the forum and found it very helpful tho, i can't seem to find anything that is exactly like my problem.
Alot of Mk3 GTi 8vs seem to be cutting out on everyone (mine also) :sad: but what happens to mine is it will drive for about a week and then start to cut out....if i leave it for a week it will be okay again for another week...
I've checked relays and cleaned the throttle body and it hasn't made a difference.
About a month before it started happening the car wouldnt start but cut out straight away, resulting in a new egnition switch...would this have any impact on the car still?
Also is it tru that the older the mk3s can't be hooked up to have the error determined electronically (Mines a 1993)
Any help wold be much appreciated as i can't really afford to take it back to the garage! :sad:
Thankyou!!
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welcome mate, You want a look at this thread. This may help. and hope it does :-)
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=101400.msg862334#msg862334
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Cheers mate, i have actually printed that out and it's at my house ready for me to use :)
One thing i think it could be is the oil breathers but i'm not entirely sure where they are, as some times my car does start hunting (Reving up and down for no reason)
If anyone could tell me what to look for and what to do with these would be much appreciated.
This is my first Golf that i got 2 years ago when i was 18 and would very much like to keep hold of it till i can get insured on a VR6!!
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In Idle, does it rev up and down alot? Whats your idle speed rpm. and how much does it drop and rise....
a common problem is vac pipes split, look around engine/throttle body/inlet manifold for broken/split vac pipes.
This will cuase idle problems and cutting out, and is a cheap fix.
hope this helps. **my gti has a leaky pipe somewhere, has cut out a couple of times when dipping the clutch, and my idle is at 800rpm.
I think thats abit low. i think it should be around 900rpm. but i can never get chance to look at it properly, I could now, but its raining lol.
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one more thing, when i dip my clutch, sometimes the rev drops to around 500rpm, wanting to cut out, then jumps back to 800rpm.... i'm hoping mines just a vac pipe as said... :rolleyes:
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8v you say?
Hmm
There's your problem :wink:
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Welcome to the site, idle control valve maybe.
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my car will idle anything from 800 - 1200....but that still wouldn't really explain why it only lasts about a week does it?
i do have a split pipe on one of the hoses near the air filter...at the top of the engine...
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haha I'm only 20!! I think a 2.0 8v for an 18 year old is pretty good! (18 is when i 1st got it :))
i have been trying to get hold of a VR6 but for a 20 year old insurance will be mental!
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8v you say?
Hmm
There's your problem :wink:
:laugh:
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Change that split hose then.
then take it from there.
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if its cutting out could be a dodgy fuel relay! :smiley:
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I'll get that sorted then, any one know of any places where they sell good cheap parts?
I'm in the Channel Islands so i have to order everything :( but don't pay VAT which is nice :)
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if its cutting out could be a dodgy fuel relay! :smiley:
Would that mean that it might work for like a week and then start cutting out? cuz thats what it does at the moment...
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haha I'm only 20!! I think a 2.0 8v for an 18 year old is pretty good! (18 is when i 1st got it :))
i have been trying to get hold of a VR6 but for a 20 year old insurance will be mental!
:grin:
I was 18 when I bought my VR6, I turned 19 just over a week ago.. so I'm hoping to insure it in September :smiley:
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parents insurance eh :grin:
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Plug into vag com check fault log(if applicable)
Replace all the vac pipes formed ones come from VW, plain ones you can get from Marine shop for pennies.
Relays can be a bit tetchy so do the drive around feel the relays bit.
Best to change em anyway.
Crank sensor: change it if vag com picks up a fault or cable/housing is fecked.
If 2E engine clean up ISV/check connection
How often do you give it a good blast?
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parents insurance eh :grin:
Own insurance thanks. I don't have the privilege of having parents that pay for me.
I can currently insure it in my own name, with 1yrs no claims, for 1400 squid, or if I wait until September it comes down 200 quid.
Sorry for going off topic btw, hope you get you car sorted :)
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hey mate,
ok, ive got a '93 2e engine, and mine is doing as yours is, for example i did 160 miles in it at weekend , with only the occasional hickup, but otherwise fine,
then have it in the garage monday for ecu to be read, no codes...
thentoday its being a twit again and taking a while to start and not idling well...
now im gonna get a different air mass meter cos mine has silicone around it, so poss been tampered with!!
ive replaced split hoses, cleaned tb, cleaned isv, tried different, not new relays, no difference!!
hth :)
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It's a right pain in the a$$ !! i don't want this to put me off Golfs but its really starting too :cry:
On the VR6 subject i'm 20 now and my GTi costs around £450 a year fully comp with 3 years no claims..so i guess a VR6 wouldn't bee too bad then? I reckon below 1k defo!
Well it's raining at the moment so i'll have to look at that another time, so for now DVD Player shall go back in!
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bloody hell, cheap insurance, git, lol
mine for some reason is 900 with the gf (im 21 and she is 25)
one to try is the hard plastic pipe that runs accross the top of your rocker cover from the isv to the plastic air inlet.
that came off, or worked loose and i broke down, completely wouldnt run, that got shoved hard back in, and its rum alot better since!!
worth a go m8!!
ps - has your air flow meter been tampered with like mine!?
mine has some white silicone around the joints, maybe a clue if its the same on yours?!
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omebody told me that most mk3 owners were middle aged. :shocked:
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Insurance over here can be well cheap if your lucky :P
I got insured on a 3k VTR for £400 fully comp :) Don't worry that thing went along long long time ago, was just "A Run Around" till my Golf was fixed (Gear box swap)
But more onto the subject, i'll have a look at the hoses. i do know i got a split one, so i'll get that replaced and see if it's put sh!t on any of the sensors.
Cheers for the help guys i'll keep you posted if i find the cure :)
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If still not sorted the issue...
try replacing the waffle valve :grin: :grin:
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What the hell is that??????
I thought they had summin to do with trains?? :huh: :huh:
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lol, just something i remembered when i was an apprentice at work, I work in a plastics industry, and work on machinery all the time.
The guys like winding new apprentices up telling them to do stupid things...
i.e. Change the waffle valve (No such thing), Go get me a left handed spanner etc.. etc.. lol
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lol, just something i remembered when i was an apprentice at work, I work in a plastics industry, and work on machinery all the time.
The guys like winding new apprentices up telling them to do stupid things...
i.e. Change the waffle valve (No such thing), Go get me a left handed spanner etc.. etc.. lol
:grin: :grin:
Box of sparks for the grinder :grin:
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:grin: :grin: :grin:
I fell for them all in my apprentice days lol.
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Haha thats awesome BUT if you google "waffle valve" in google images it actually comes up with a load of trains !! lol
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Right i've plugged up that hose now idles alot better...but lost my Oil cap in the process (was adding oil) :( replaced that now...
Have however found another problem....was wondering if this has any relation to the original problem of cutting out??!!
The thermostat dial is saying that my car after hard driving for an hour is 79 degrees where as the one on the MFA is saying 94 degrees... now i'm not sure if these are supposed to correspond to each other, in the past they have...im sure?
Can some one tell me is this is an issue and would i need to replace anything??
Any help would be much appreciated!! Thanks Guys!!
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This isn't the answer to the problem, but I recently had to couch up £200 on my 8v to replace the ecu relay & the coil pack after starting problems when it was hot, the garage reckon it may not have been fitted properly by a past owner & was not earthing properly not to mention it was glowing red! :sick:
Just thought I'd mention it. :wink:
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Thats a right pain in the a$$......can any one help me????
Issue is really strange and i don't know if they corrospond to each other? :angry:
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Right i know exactly what happens now.....as it's been okay for two weeks but the problems is back!!!
1st of all it starts out by hesitating (like its being starved of fuel) Revs go up as normal but i don't seem to go anywhere. Foot will be flat down in second gear and by the time i get up to 6k i'm doing 40 mph if i'm lucky! that will happen a couple of times over a day and then it gets to the point where it does the same thing but then cuts out. :(
HELP ME !!!
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FIXED IT!!!!
I cleaned out the throttle body with like half a can of carb cleaner :) will next be removing it properly and giving it a major clean!!
How easy is this to do? never done anything like this before...
Cheers guys!
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