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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: simonfa on 14 July 2009, 09:06
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Hey guys,
Recently enquired at my local garage for a rough quote for an engine rebuild. When i say rebuild i mean removing stripping all seals, gaskets and belts then for them to be replaced etc. My mechanic promptly said that i was better off buying an engine that has already been stripped and put back together and swapping engines as there is places he has heard about that will basically take your engine and a sum of money and you walk out with a newly refurbished engine, they would then refurb yours and swap on to the next and so on!
Does this make sense, or should i just go for a full refurb on the engine i have?
Does anyone know of any places that do this refurb swap thingy or has anyone had any prior experience with this sort of thing, ie prices or company names?
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
I have a 1991 MK2 16V. Engine is running fine and doesnt really have any major issues but has done 175K.
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If it ain't broke don't fix it. 175K is high but I've known these engines do 250K without a rebuild.
Nick
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I'd buy a 2.0 16v engine before spending money rebuilding a 1.8 16v. but as above, they will last pretty much forever if you look after them
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same here, get a 2.0l with 80k to 120k (worn in :grin: ), and change the seals and gaskets. leave the shells and rings and drop it straight in :afro:
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I would go for a 2.0
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If it ain't broke don't fix it. 175K is high but I've known these engines do 250K without a rebuild.
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Leave it alone!
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My 91 valver has 168K on the clock, still runs perfectly well. I would go the way of Rubjony. If I was you I'd rather spend the cash on a 2.0 ABF rather than refurbing the valver.
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If it ain't broke don't fix it. 175K is high but I've known these engines do 250K without a rebuild.
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Leave it alone!
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if you rebuild it you'll loose power, it's well known that the 16v's tend to gain power through there life as long as the injection stuff is well maintaned. whne it gives up one day 2ltr it
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re build it yourself and save ££££.
i looked into getting a refurbed engine on an exchange basis and your still looking at about 600 minimum. or rebuild it all yourself for about 200. every gasket,seal,o ring, etc etc and its not exactly a hard job to do.
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you won't rebuild a valver for £200
ummm if fact i go price up proper rebuild for the hell of it
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i was bored so
Part Number Description Fitment Price(£) Quantity Delete
16164A CRANKSH.THRUST WASHER SET G2 1.05 To 1.8 Carb & F.Inj All 6.50
16195 CON ROD BEARING SET-STD G2 1.8 GTI/GLI & 16V 8/82 > With Oil Hole 14.50
11533 ENG.GASKET SET-BOTTOM END G2 1.8 16V 7/85> 38.50
92631D IGNITION LEAD SET G2 16V 2/86 >10/91 34.15
17953R WATER FLANGE G2 GTI / 16V 8/83 > 4.00
02456 CON ROD BOLT G2 16V 2/86 >10/91 1.75
02470 CON ROD NUT G2 16V 2/86 >10/91 0.45
16152 MAIN BEARING SET-STD G2 1.05 To 1.8 Carb & F.Inj All With Oil Hole 21.60
16546 PISTON RING SET-81mm G2 1.8 Carb , GTI/GLI & 16V 8/83 > 31.50
17626 THERMOSTAT G2 16V 2/86 >10/91 4.85
92151 DISTRIBUTOR CAP G2 16V 8/86 >10/91 7.00
17058 WATER PUMP-COMPLETE G2 GTI / 16V 8/83 > 18.25
11640 DIPSTICK GUIDE G2 16V 2/86 >10/91 1.00
01200 CORE PLUG-ENG.BLOCK G2 All 0.70
15325 OIL PUMP G2 16V 2/86 >10/91 49.50
SB95013 SPARKPLUG-F6DTC G2 16V 2/86 >10/91 1.50
14537 CAM FOLLOWER-HYDRAULIC G2 8/85 > 7.60
17875 WATER PIPE-METAL G2 1.8 8v F.Inj 8/83 >10/91 17.50
15499 OIL COOLER G2 16V 2/86 >10/91 34.60
11638 SEAL-SUMP DRAIN PLUG G2 All 0.20
14486B VALVE GUIDE-36.5mm General Use. Various VW/Audi 1.8-2.8 95> inc. Diesel 2.70
11490 CYLINDER HEAD GASKET SET G2 16V 2/86 >10/91 42.75
01159 CYLINDER HEAD BOLT SET G2 1.8 16V 2/86 >10/91 17.20
18753 FUEL INJECTOR-PETROL G2 16V 2/86 >10/91 27.50
92218 IGNITION ROTOR ARM G2 16V 2/86 >10/91 4.25
17952 WATER FLANGE ON HEAD-SIDE G2 1.8 8v F.Inj (Not G60) 8/88 >10/91 6.45
15498 SEAL FOR OIL COOLER G2 16V 2/86 >10/91 1.75
MMW719/5 OIL FILTER-MANN G2 Petrol (Not G60) 8/83 >7/92 2.30
TOTAL(exc. VAT )£ 658.85
VAT £ 98.83
TOTAL £ 757.68
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Thanks for the replies guys.
Although a bigger more powerfull 2.0 would be attractive i would like to keep my Valver as standard as pos, im not really into all that mod'ing and making cars bigger wider lower and faster, if that was what it was about i would have bought a faster car in the first place!
One of the reasons i wanna do the replace or rebuild is cos i have few slight issues i need to sort out any way, they are not major and the engine does run well, idles fine and pulls well but things like oil in the air filter and breather pipe, small rocker gasket leak, dizzzy oil seal seems to have a small leak and would just like to generally have a tidy up as its not the tidiest engine and bay in the world. Thought after the 18 years of running it has had i may be down a fair few horses so would have liked to get it back up to original figures and thought a rebuild would have done the trick.
Thanks for the list Danny_p :smiley:
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if thats the aim, don't rebuild the motor but give it a good going over.
most of those are common niggels for a 16v most of them arn't mialage related but more seals going off with age. have the injector cleaned or just replace them and take it to a rolling road and have it setup i would expect it to up on factory specs