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General => Site news and bright ideas => Topic started by: jamie16v on 10 July 2009, 21:33
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stole the idea from a different site (axoc) but the idea is to list everything from knowlege and other sources.. for example, engines, what internals they have: piston sizes, compression, rod size, pin size, journal size, bore/stroke and so on.
i think it would be a good reference to go on for sourcing bits to build a hybrid engine..
not just about engines, but the whole car and marks, what bits fit what and so on..
whats your thoughts?.
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hmm..would take an awful long time to get all that info in there
unless we can find somewhere to steal a whole lot with copy&paste
interesting idea though, even things like ECU numbers can be a b!tch to find all in one place so i can see how it would be useful.
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search axoc.co.uk for an idea, you need to be a paid member to access the info but admin p.m me and i`ll give you access..
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i have most of that infomation stuck on the back wall of the garage :) but collating and crossreferanceing it all woudl take a lot of effort i only tend to check what i need when i need to
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i dont think youre quite getting the idea...
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I think he is and I think a Golf GTI wiki would be a great idea. It's hardly a tough thing to set up, especially if it's standalone and if there isn't a 'pay' element to it.
It would also help mark GGTI out in the VW world and differentiate it over other Golf sites....
Why limit it to engines though?
Golf wiki would make more sense. I'm happy to contribute what teknicul nolidge I have knocking about.
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spot idea. different people with different cars and different engines can all contribute so we have a nice database to refer too.
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I think he is and I think a Golf GTI wiki would be a great idea. It's hardly a tough thing to set up, especially if it's standalone and if there isn't a 'pay' element to it.
It would also help mark GGTI out in the VW world and differentiate it over other Golf sites....
Why limit it to engines though?
Golf wiki would make more sense. I'm happy to contribute what teknicul nolidge I have knocking about.
didnt mean to limit it to engines, just had engines in mind as i would love to build a hybrid engine from all sorts of other bits..
but i can see you catch my drift, i think it would be a very useful tool..
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what are we waiting for. lol
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If somebody writes it i can supply all the mk3 engine info you could possibly ever need (I will check others but it could take time as its in russian!)
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Would this be a golfgtiforum affliate? Just im thinking of the excesive cost JV already has. lol.
Not sure if he would want to basically host another forum. lol.
Who would be doing it etc?
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It's not a forum, it's a wiki, which works just like that Wikipedia.
That would be open source and unless we ram it with high-resolution images it shouldn't monster bandwidth.
It should be available as an install option in cPanel in any Linux hosting package that has Fantastico scripts included in it.
Simples.
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I think this is a brilliant idea. The wiki on the corrado forum is really useful and it's not even a very good one!
Nick
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bandwidth shouldn't really be an issue (it was cpu load causing previous issues - too many queries per second).. anyone have experience setting up wiki?
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Maybe.
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Could do an install of perhaps mediawiki but it's not so much the server overhead as the time to admin it.
I have serious doubts about an openly editable GTI wiki actually amounting to anything other than endless edits over the usual GTI arguments!
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It's a place for fact, not opinion. So long as people appreciate that then it'll be fine.
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Piss easy to set-up mediawiki, I set one up earlier this year for my work. Took me all of a day including researching which wiki to use and many a ciggie break :grin:
I think maybe restricting the accounts to people who have X amount of posts on the forum or given to knowledgable members, so other less knowledgable people can't screw with the correct info. I know it's not the way Wiki's are meant to be, but in our case it's probably best.
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Piss easy to set-up mediawiki, I set one up earlier this year for my work. Took me all of a day including researching which wiki to use and many a ciggie break :grin:
I think maybe restricting the accounts to people who have X amount of posts on the forum or given to knowledgable members, so other less knowledgable people can't screw with the correct info. I know it's not the way Wiki's are meant to be, but in our case it's probably best.
or at least be able to have others correct it, thats how it is on other forums.
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Why make a separate wiki though? Why not just use the original? Gains: Global audience, way easier for people to find, admin overhead removed. Just not clear on the actual point of attaching a new wiki.
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Because the 'original' isn't specialised enough?
It's also particularly heavily regulated and doesn't point to this site.
A resource 'owned' by this community makes a lot more sense.
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As DH said, the original isn't specific enough. Same reason we use a Wiki in house at work now for technical solutions, that and we couldn't put our confidential customer info on it :grin:
As I said, giving certain knowledgeable/trusted members write & edit permissions there should be a minimum need for admin overhead :wink: Give any person access and it'll go tits up.
Any "version" of any page can be rolled back to any previous version easily enough so that if misinformation does get added you can get the correct data back in a few clicks :smiley:
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so what info is going to go in the engine wiki and whitch engines are going to be coverd and in how much detail ?
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OK, I have created a proof-of-concept-let's-try-it-and-see-if-we-can-break-it wiki
This is on my space.
I've used tikiwiki.
If people want to try it out and beat it with a stick and generally test out what we as a community could do, PM me and I'll set up access for you.
This is not trying to tread on anyone's toes, I'm just mucking about with the technology.
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I really, REALLY like this idea. It would work just like the Ross-Tech wiki - http://wiki.ross-tech.com, and as others have said, limit edit permissions to reliable, trusted members.
As a really valid example, it would seriously help dispel the myth, and associated crap around these unfounded claims that the Edition 30 engine is just a 'detuned S3 engine' when I know for a fact it aint. I have a fairly detailed spreadsheet of all the component part numbers from all flavours of the 2.0 TFSI engine, and I reckon that a 'Golf GTI wiki' would be a really good place to host this kind of information.
I'd glady help out with editing and adding stuff - providing you think I'm knowledgeable and 'trustworthy' :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed:
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What about starting with the basics... such as..
1.Years of the models
2.Engines in each model (different varients of 1.8t etc)
3.Differences within each marque i.e small bumpers etc and years they changed
4.Servicing guides
5.Basic guides for each vehicle.. ie lowering etc..
Then from there take it to the next level..
So like jamie was saying..
to build a 2.0 16v hi comp engine running so and so pistons...
Requirements for a Supercharged engine...
Requirements for a turbo engine
Best 1.8t to run per marque
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What about starting with the basics... such as..
1.Years of the models
2.Engines in each model (different varients of 1.8t etc)
3.Differences within each marque i.e small bumpers etc and years they changed
4.Servicing guides
5.Basic guides for each vehicle.. ie lowering etc..
Then from there take it to the next level..
So like jamie was saying..
to build a 2.0 16v hi comp engine running so and so pistons...
Requirements for a Supercharged engine...
Requirements for a turbo engine
Best 1.8t to run per marque
yes exactly that right there but then it still comes down to where to get the info and how hard to put into the wiki of choosing.
this is a great idea and i hope it actually goes somewhere other than a forgoten thread :smiley:
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anymore news on this...
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anymore news on this...
+1
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Well - we have a whole bunch of servers going spare, so I'm sure we could offer some capacity for hosting (for free).
The offer also applies for the main GolfGTi forum - I'm sure I can do you a better deal than what you're paying now ;)
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There's something I started mucking about with here (http://diamondhell.com/VAGEngines/tiki-index.php?page=Engine+wiki).
If you want a log-in, just ask. If people are genuinely prepared to contribute then let's start putting stuff in. I won't try and claim ownership of anything that goes in there, it's just something for people to have a play with at the moment and see if there is a body of people on here who are prepared to put stuff into a wiki, as that's what's needed. You'll see the engines listed in there aren't limited to Golf motors - that doesn't make sense.
I've elevated it to VAG engines, as I don't see anything of that ilk out there on the web. If contributors step forward and create content then it'll grow legs to the point where it would be an idea to buy a domain for it to live in IMO.
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looks good :wink:
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can we post information/threads with information in here.. and then get it added.. pleassseeee
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Post up some links, I'll copy and paste the content into the wiki or just PM DH for a wiki login and DIY :smiley:
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The idea is that it's DIY, but as Jay says - you've got to ask for a log-in as I've not managed to do much more than set it up and put some base data into it. I'm a bit busy at the moment, so stuff like this is 'at the back of the queue'.
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ok.. heres some links for you
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Air Intake Mods MK3 16V Testing (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=129025.0)
Engine Conversion MK3 FAQ (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=124485.0)
BoneyBradleys MK3 Variants Website (http://boneybradley.webs.com/)
MK3 Dealer Alarm Options (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=110719.0)
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mk1 timeline (http://www.vwgolfmk1.org.uk/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=38)
mk1 golf information (http://www.vwgolfmk1.org.uk/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=9)
mk1 golf engine conversions (http://www.vwgolfmk1.org.uk/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=39)
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Comparison of Golfs (http://www.vwgolfmk1.org.uk/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=16)
gearbox ratio guides (http://www.vwgolfmk1.org.uk/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=47)
Camshaft Application Guide for 8vs (http://www.brokestatus.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1579)
That the kinda sh!t u want??
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That's kinda the information, although I think we need to be focussed about what information goes in - is it a VW engines wiki, or a Golf GTI overall wiki?
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i personally think it should be a GolfGTI wiki with engine section in it..
I got loads of random sh!t like this laying about.. i shall dig out my dads old pc too and check my favourites on there...
Dicky
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I think it should be a GolfGTI Wiki with a VW Engine area as there are so many conversions going on, that way it will also get more coverage, usage and a greater community as a whole.
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I think this would be a brilliant idea :smiley:
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As this topic simply won't die, once I've finally got a new house to live in I'll look at this again.... in my spare time..... when it's dark.
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http://wiki.audiworld.com/index.php/AudiWorld_Wiki
http://wikifixmycar.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
some links :wink:
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So build a car? built by the people and information on this forum?