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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: R32UK on 04 July 2009, 14:21

Title: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: R32UK on 04 July 2009, 14:21
Probably a little early to be looking into this, but has anyone had their MK6 remapped?? by who? where? how much??  :grin:


I like to do my homework :nerd:
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: gc76 on 04 July 2009, 17:02
Probably a little early to be looking into this, but has anyone had their MK6 remapped?? by who? where? how much??  :grin:


I like to do my homework :nerd:
I'll be interested to here about this.  I was thinking about getting a bluefin
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: R32UK on 04 July 2009, 17:16
Revo seemed to be the way to go for the MK5. however those with more mods than just a map seemed to vary their opinions a fair bit. Never seemed to be a right or wrong map just individual preferences.
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: gc76 on 04 July 2009, 18:29
I kinda like the idea of using bluefin then being able to remove or remap it myself when required.

Volkswagen Golf Mk6 GTI 2.0 TSI 210PS
6/2009 onwards
Engine type : Turbocharged Petrol
Engine size : 1984 cm3
Cylinders : 4
Original bhp : 207
Original nm : 280
BHP increase : 49
NM gain : 90
Lb/Ft gain : 66

Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: R32UK on 04 July 2009, 19:12
A remap alone seems to bring up 260bhp. Thought that was a little optimistic to start with but it seems thats what everyone is quoting :huh: :grin:
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: gossa on 04 July 2009, 23:01
Revo hooked up a laptop to my car at GTI Inters, they reckon they should have a 260-270bhp map ready in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: R32UK on 05 July 2009, 07:46
Revo hooked up a laptop to my car at GTI Inters, they reckon they should have a 260-270bhp map ready in a couple of weeks.

Sounds good!! do keep us posted if you hear anything else:smiley:


something tells me what im gonna save on fuel is gonna end up being spent on tyres :lipsrsealed: :evil:
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: Exonian on 05 July 2009, 10:22
I don't think it will be too long before most of the tuners are offering mk6 stuff. REVO have said the engine gives similar results to the mk5 motor. It's early days yet and I don't think it will be too long before we are hearing about stage 2 GTIs once the intakes and exhausts have been slightly fettled to mate up to the new engine.
The brake conversions and most suspension kits will probably carry straight over too.
Bring it on!!!
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: Jkctr on 05 July 2009, 13:28
How long untill the next special edition (ED30) but for the mk6? Is it every 5 years?
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: Guy on 05 July 2009, 13:39
How long untill the next special edition (ED30) but for the mk6? Is it every 5 years?

yes... probably late mk6 spec in order to use up existing stock just in time for the mk7 to be launched  :smiley:
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: gossa on 05 July 2009, 16:37
Superchips already list the MK6 on their website but from what i've heard over at sciroccocentral, Revo should be a better option.
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: simonpolly on 05 July 2009, 17:22
Being as there is no such thing as a free lunch,what are the down sides to remapping ?
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: Jkctr on 05 July 2009, 17:23
Extra wear on parts and the possibility of a voided warranty if your engine died (although unlikely not impossible)
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: simonpolly on 05 July 2009, 17:25
some gamble that :undecided:
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: topher on 05 July 2009, 17:27
i don't see how they can quote power figures for a map not developed yet?
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: Jkctr on 05 July 2009, 17:32
i don't see how they can quote power figures for a map not developed yet?

They will be guesstimates mate, at the end of the day a RR isnt accurate so they can quote what they want. Going by the fact the new R wont be using the mk6 engine (ed30 is the rumors?) i doubt its more tunable than the mk5 so probably more like 250bhp, similar to the current engine.

Who knows though, might well do 270bhp for all we know?
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: FroGTI on 05 July 2009, 17:34
I like the look of Superchips' BlueFin thingy, but is it for real? I mean, can you just plug the thing into the car and basically dial in how much power you want?

I don't know, it seems a bit too good to be true?

TIA :)
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: R32UK on 05 July 2009, 17:36
i don't see how they can quote power figures for a map not developed yet?

agreed. although if they are just in the final stages of testing then they might be confident of a minimum increase.

wow you guys are quick!!! :grin:
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: topher on 05 July 2009, 17:39
i don't see how they can quote power figures for a map not developed yet?

They will be guesstimates mate, at the end of the day a RR isnt accurate so they can quote what they want. Going by the fact the new R wont be using the mk6 engine (ed30 is the rumors?) i doubt its more tunable than the mk5 so probably more like 250bhp, similar to the current engine.

Who knows though, might well do 270bhp for all we know?

rhetoric dude.. rhetoric :grin:
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: R32UK on 05 July 2009, 17:42
^^  :grin: :grin:


I think i will stick with std for a couple of months before deciding if i need the change. God knows how my licence has survived this long... got chased last week too  :lipsrsealed: :laugh:
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: Exonian on 05 July 2009, 18:16
i don't see how they can quote power figures for a map not developed yet?
The EA888 GTI engine has been around a while now in Audis so it has already been fettled by tuners. It doesn't take them long to get an idea of what they can to once they crack the ECU code.

I like the look of Superchips' BlueFin thingy, but is it for real? I mean, can you just plug the thing into the car and basically dial in how much power you want?

I don't know, it seems a bit too good to be true?

TIA :)
You don't just dial in how much power you want. You have 2 maps, one the standard VW one and another that Superchips have developed.

Being as there is no such thing as a free lunch,what are the down sides to remapping ?
As above, the possibility of more wear on some items but decent tuners will thoroughly road test and develop maps before releasing them to the general public. That's why some cost more than others and take longer to get to the market place.
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: VWKev on 05 July 2009, 18:17
How much on average do you think it will bump you're insurance premiums ? Maybe the mk5 trolls guys would be better placed to answer this ?
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: topher on 05 July 2009, 18:26
£80 - £150 as a rough guide.. not making any assumptions about your age but i doubt a young nipper is buying a mk6 gti :grin:
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: topher on 05 July 2009, 18:27
The EA888 GTI engine has been around a while now in Audis so it has already been fettled by tuners. It doesn't take them long to get an idea of what they can to once they crack the ECU code.

so all the hype about it being a brand new engine design specifically for the new GTI was just that, hype?
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: Jkctr on 05 July 2009, 18:32
£80 - £150 as a rough guide.. not making any assumptions about your age but i doubt a young nipper is buying a mk6 gti :grin:

Some young guys parents have bought him one (was 19 iirc) He had a thread regarding insurance.
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: Exonian on 05 July 2009, 18:35
The EA888 GTI engine has been around a while now in Audis so it has already been fettled by tuners. It doesn't take them long to get an idea of what they can to once they crack the ECU code.

so all the hype about it being a brand new engine design specifically for the new GTI was just that, hype?

Basically, yep.
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: topher on 05 July 2009, 18:40
wish i'd known that before i had a chat with the vw peeps at the demo day :grin:
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: Exonian on 05 July 2009, 18:58
The only unique bit is the wheel barrow exhausts and the sound resonator thingy. I haven't seen SEAT mention the sound thingy in the Leon FR brochure that I can remember.
Talking of which I was reading up on the Ibiza Bocanegra t'other day and the way it was worded is that it too will have a sound thingy like the GTI.
Most people who've driven the new GTI haven't even noticed the supposedly amplified engine and exhaust noise though, maybe it only works on full throttle and they haven't dared thrash a new car that hard with a salesman/woman sat next to them?
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: topher on 05 July 2009, 19:01
It sounds nice, but then they could've just fitted a sports exhaust to the demo cars and not told us
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: Exonian on 05 July 2009, 19:04
Wouldn't put it past them to do a few discreet modifications without telling anyone!
I wonder who will end up the lucky owners of those ex-VW fleet cars with one careful VW employee owner? I notice the plates were blanked off in the photos.

Nicely run in I guess.....
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: VWKev on 05 July 2009, 19:39
£80-£150 is actually not that bad over a year.

Might look into it myself when I my car. (Q the jokes)
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: R32UK on 05 July 2009, 20:01
The only unique bit is the wheel barrow exhausts and the sound resonator thingy. I haven't seen SEAT mention the sound thingy in the Leon FR brochure that I can remember.
Talking of which I was reading up on the Ibiza Bocanegra t'other day and the way it was worded is that it too will have a sound thingy like the GTI.
Most people who've driven the new GTI haven't even noticed the supposedly amplified engine and exhaust noise though, maybe it only works on full throttle and they haven't dared thrash a new car that hard with a salesman/woman sat next to them?

I test drove one on thursday and instantly noticed that at 4.5k rev and above it does sound alot better. was told buy the sales guy that the other demo they had sounded better the more miles it had on it.

My demo car only had 5miles on the clock when i got my grubby little mits on it... and you will just have to believe me when I tell you I really did spank it to within an inch of its life. :evil: sales guy was holding onto the passenger handle with both hands at some points. :grin:


tell you what though... brand new pair of sportmaxx dont exactly fill you with confidence :shocked:
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: gizzywizzy on 05 July 2009, 22:55
Pardon me if I seem ignorant but was wondering if having a remap affects the cars warranty.  Anyone know? : :huh::
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: topher on 05 July 2009, 23:45
If a fault occurs that can be proven is directly related to the remap, you aren't covered by the VW warranty, and you need to go back to the tuner as it should be covered by their warranty.

Also while doing some data logging on a remapped car recently (mk4) an error popped up that I'd not seen before. It seems if your remap raises the factory set rev limiter the ECU logs every time you go over that limit, which according to VCDS may also void your warranty! (its possible that tuners can/are already coding into their maps a workaround to that little 'glitch' )
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: Jkctr on 06 July 2009, 08:56
Pardon me if I seem ignorant but was wondering if having a remap affects the cars warranty.  Anyone know? : :huh::

If the engine goes no one will cover you, the infamous leon thread proved that!
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: gossa on 06 July 2009, 11:53
Pardon me if I seem ignorant but was wondering if having a remap affects the cars warranty.  Anyone know? : :huh::

If the engine goes no one will cover you, the infamous leon thread proved that!

Got a link to that thread Jules for those of us that didn't see it? cheers
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: FroGTI on 06 July 2009, 14:22
the infamous leon thread proved that!

What's the 'Leon thread'. Any chance of a few linkies? :)
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: Rhyso on 06 July 2009, 14:24
the infamous leon thread proved that!

What's the 'Leon thread'. Any chance of a few linkies? :)

its over on the Seat Cupra forum although it most likely got deleted / locked  :undecided:
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: Jkctr on 06 July 2009, 20:43
Think its gone now.

A guy had a leon on finance i think (basically wasnt properly his) and he mapped it then the engine popped and they found out. He lost out completely as no one would pay out so lost all his money.
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: gossa on 06 July 2009, 20:44
Think its gone now.

A guy had a leon on finance i think (basically wasnt properly his) and he mapped it then the engine popped and they found out. He lost out completely as no one would pay out so lost all his money.

How did they find out about the map? Revo reckon it's not detectable, even by the VW techs.
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: Jkctr on 06 July 2009, 21:03
No idea? Im pretty sure they dont say its undetectable? Nothing is completely undetectable!
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: gossa on 06 July 2009, 21:06
No idea? Im pretty sure they dont say its undetectable? Nothing is completely undetectable!

The Revo agent told me it can't be traced.  I guess if you have a remote switchable map you could change it back if you crashed and live to tell the tale?
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: Jkctr on 06 July 2009, 21:08
Im sure he does seeing as you might not buy it otherwise. They have plenty of small print to keep themselves safe  :wink:
Title: Re: MK6 Gti Remap
Post by: topher on 06 July 2009, 21:11
The usual diagnostic equipment won't find a remap, but if someone is specifically looking for it.. they will find it. It's not exactly difficult to tell from just a quick test drive either!