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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: bondbill2k2 on 03 July 2009, 00:23

Title: 1.4 to 1.6 16v - (can a 1.4 be rebuilt?)
Post by: bondbill2k2 on 03 July 2009, 00:23: Found a 1.6 16v for sale locally, what parts would need changing to do the swap?
Gearbox?Radiator?ECU?Throttle body? etc..
Title: Re: 1.4 to 1.6 16v
Post by: tg1 on 03 July 2009, 08:35: tbh i wouldn't bother just swapping up one engine size, i'd start saving for a 20vt conversion if i was you

i've no idea what you'd need i guess the box, and loom would be pretty much the same though
Title: Re: 1.4 to 1.6 16v
Post by: bobbarley on 03 July 2009, 08:37: I thought the same. for the tim, effort and cash involved, I wouldn't see the point. It isn't going to be that much faster anyway. Save your pennies toward a 1.8T :afro:
Title: Re: 1.4 to 1.6 16v
Post by: Wayne on 03 July 2009, 08:41: I don't think you would make enough gain to make it worthwhile to be honest.
Title: Re: 1.4 to 1.6 16v
Post by: linz on 03 July 2009, 09:36: seems a completely pointless conersion if u ask me
Title: Re: 1.4 to 1.6 16v
Post by: Rhyso on 03 July 2009, 09:37: is the 1.6 a complete car??

why not buy it, transfer your bits over and then sell yours - far easier than swapping everything around

just be careful as to what gearbox is in it - they tend to be a bit choclatey :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: 1.4 to 1.6 16v
Post by: bondbill2k2 on 03 July 2009, 09:44: Reason for it is insurance wont even give me a quote on a 1.8T or anything larger.

And the 1.4 piston rings are gone thats in it atm.
Ive been told (by ukmk4 forum) you CANNOT replace them on a 1.4 as the aluminium block warps if you loosen the crank OR the bearing cap bolts.
If you even loosen them then the bearing clearence will be out and can cause serious damage. Am i right in saying the bearing cap bolts are those which hold the piston to the crank?
Quote
""if the bearing cap bolts are loosened the cylinder block must be replaced complete with crankshaft""
:huh:

This sounds like the stupidest engine design ever!
I've had two good quotes off engine rebuild companys on the engine, so i was planning on that but now im told you cannot rebuild them or even replace piston rings :lipsrsealed:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/Bondbill2k2/crankremoval.jpg)
Title: Re: 1.4 to 1.6 16v - (can a 1.4 be rebuilt?)
Post by: Wayne on 03 July 2009, 10:01: Ford Zetec SE 1.4 and 1.6 is the same design, just designed to do 100k and then be thrown away, crazy.
Title: Re: 1.4 to 1.6 16v - (can a 1.4 be rebuilt?)
Post by: bondbill2k2 on 03 July 2009, 12:36: Called several engine rebuild company and took the printout with warning to a couple, all said its nothing to worry about and only something VW use to make people spend £2000+ with them for a new engine on every 1.4 pretty much, as they will go almost always go at some point (piston rings, valves, usual probs)

One of them had a 1.4 16v mk4 same engine code as mine they had jst rebuilt in a car running while was there. Also comes with a couple years guarantee
Title: Re: 1.4 to 1.6 16v
Post by: Mk1Macca on 03 July 2009, 12:39: Quote from: bondbill2k2 on 03 July 2009, 09:44
Reason for it is insurance wont even give me a quote on a 1.8T or anything larger.

Try getting them to quote when you utter the words 'I changed the engine'...

Much easier to just buy a new car :smiley:
Title: Re: 1.4 to 1.6 16v - (can a 1.4 be rebuilt?)
Post by: Horney on 03 July 2009, 12:39: Good news mate!

nick
Title: Re: 1.4 to 1.6 16v - (can a 1.4 be rebuilt?)
Post by: bondbill2k2 on 03 July 2009, 12:47: Well its defo good news, i know its genuine 79k on it have all MOT's from new, no guarantee on anything on buying a preowned engine.
Should be nice when all done, plan keeping this till next June when insurance and mot runs out. Then ill be 21 and looking into a GT TDI
Saved on cheaper cars and insurance for first few yrs then something v nice :smiley: