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Title: Polo 1.3Cl troubles...
Post by: Mikester on 01 July 2009, 20:28
Mels polo is giving us troubles.

It will run fine, then just stall and not start. It will turn over and over and over and not start. Give it a few mins and it will start.

It does this wether it is hot, cold, been running for 5mins or 5 hours.

When it turns over the revs go up as it turns over?

So far we have tried new plugs and leads, air filter, and cleaning the TB with carb cleaner.

Fault coded it, which came back clear. It showed the camshaft sensor when engine off, but rosstech says its supposed to do that, and then not show it when running, which it didnt, as it doesnt have one.

Someone has mentioned the hall sender in the distributor? That sound like an idea?

Or any other ideas? Just got a phone call to say it has broken down, but luckily started again after a few minutes.

The engine is 1.3 CL, TB and injection i think.

Cheers

Mike
Title: Re: Polo 1.3Cl troubles...
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 01 July 2009, 21:46
What year is the car? engine code?
If its got a dizzy with built in hall sender then that could well be the problem, check the wiring is in good condition.
When the car refuses to start, is there a spark?
Title: Re: Polo 1.3Cl troubles...
Post by: Mikester on 01 July 2009, 21:51
i dont think there is a spark, 2 other people have had the same problem and said it was the dizzy, and explains the revs going crazy.

Will check the wiring though mate ;) before going and ripping the thing off.
Title: Re: Polo 1.3Cl troubles...
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 01 July 2009, 21:57
I take its an early model with a rotating dizzy?
Next time it happens, check for spark from the coil, if there is one, check for a spark from a ht lead.
Title: Re: Polo 1.3Cl troubles...
Post by: VW Mel on 01 July 2009, 22:01
Its year is 1995. :smiley:
Title: Re: Polo 1.3Cl troubles...
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 01 July 2009, 22:12
Ok. Engine code is ADX.
I think it has the early ignition system with a rotating distributor.
These are a weak point, have you checked the condition of the rotor arm?
Title: Re: Polo 1.3Cl troubles...
Post by: VW Mel on 01 July 2009, 22:17
Nope, will do that next, thanks :smiley:
Title: Re: Polo 1.3Cl troubles...
Post by: Mikester on 01 July 2009, 22:23
well, i did reply to this, but my internet died.

Cheers mate for the advise. If this fails, will just have to drop an ABF in it, as they are amazing so i hear in the mk3 section ;)
Title: Re: Polo 1.3Cl troubles...
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 01 July 2009, 22:25
well, i did reply to this, but my internet died.

Cheers mate for the advise. If this fails, will just have to drop an ABF in it, as they are amazing so i hear in the mk3 section ;)

Thats right.
They are so tunable, i think i'll have to remove the ABZ engine in the Audi and fit an ABF  :laugh:
Let me know how you get on with the car, i've got one outside my house at the moment, in 1600 form.
Title: Re: Polo 1.3Cl troubles...
Post by: adamrob69 on 01 July 2009, 22:28
Yeh it is that sort of distributor, i had a 1.3cl as my first car 3 years ago, and it as an ADX!

The distributors were very common to fail on them. I might have the one i took off mine somewhere if your intrested i could have a look. I also have some other spares like left over oil, spark plugs, oil filter, coil, a couple of spare throttle bodys, headlamps indicators lol quite a bit lying about let me know if you want any spares.
Title: Re: Polo 1.3Cl troubles...
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 01 July 2009, 22:33
The problem with them is the hall sender is built into the dizzy, if i remember right.
I had a similar problem when i owned a 1991 Passat GT 16v years ago, my father-in-law fixed it once, but it died eventually, a new dizzy solved it.
Title: Re: Polo 1.3Cl troubles...
Post by: Mikester on 01 July 2009, 22:34
Will let u know about spares mate, cheers for the offer :) wil no doubt need something.

Yeah, think a new dizzy will be the way forward. £65 for a recon one at ECP and GSF if u give them ur old one.

Touch wood it will fix it, and then back to the R32 Mk3. lol
Title: Re: Polo 1.3Cl troubles...
Post by: VW Mel on 01 July 2009, 22:51
well, i did reply to this, but my internet died.

Cheers mate for the advise. If this fails, will just have to drop an ABF in it, as they are amazing so i hear in the mk3 section ;)

Errrmmmmmm........let me think!?





No! lol :P:P
Title: Re: Polo 1.3Cl troubles...
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 01 July 2009, 22:56
I did see a polo with a vr6 in it a few years back at gti inters  :tongue:
Title: Re: Polo 1.3Cl troubles...
Post by: VW Mel on 02 July 2009, 14:28
Could it also be the ECU relay mate?

People have also suggested this?

Thanks in advance :smiley:
Title: Re: Polo 1.3Cl troubles...
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 04 July 2009, 00:27
ECU fault should show up on VAG com.
Title: Re: Polo 1.3Cl troubles...
Post by: VW Mel on 06 July 2009, 17:01
Mike here,

Changed teh Dizzy today for one from ECP. Got it at a discount as they only had the more expensive bosch one in stock. Changed that with the cap and arm. Set it all up and it runs like a dream. Also was a good chance to check over the cambelt when we set up the timing etc.

Runs perfectly, getting happier and more impressed with this little polo, maybe its not as bad as first thought.

Onto the lowering springs in the next few weeks, and maybe some G60 steels...

Cheers guys :)