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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Egbutt Wash on 27 June 2009, 00:19

Title: Why is the Mk5 the best?
Post by: Egbutt Wash on 27 June 2009, 00:19
The old crocks don't do it.  My Alfasud was a better sports hatch than the Mk1 VW GTI.
The Mk2 was a lardy old lady cf the mk1.
Mk's 3 & 4 were poor (even in V6 garb).
The Mk5 was good.
So good it was taking sales from Audi.
The new GTI is not a good looker.  It is designed to make Audis look better.

If you have a Mk5 GTI (even a coloured in ED30) then keep it.  It might not get any better.
Title: Re: Why is the Mk5 the best?
Post by: PhilMart on 27 June 2009, 03:07
It probably will .. but maybe not for another 25 years? :)
Title: Re: Why is the Mk5 the best?
Post by: Peskarik on 27 June 2009, 08:21
If you have a Mk5 GTI (even a coloured in ED30) then keep it.  It might not get any better.

Mk5 got better with Ed30
Title: Re: Why is the Mk5 the best?
Post by: dubcruiser on 27 June 2009, 10:35
The old crocks don't do it.  My Alfasud was a better sports hatch than the Mk1 VW GTI.
The Mk2 was a lardy old lady cf the mk1.
Mk's 3 & 4 were poor (even in V6 garb).
The Mk5 was good.
So good it was taking sales from Audi.
The new GTI is not a good looker.  It is designed to make Audis look better.

If you have a Mk5 GTI (even a coloured in ED30) then keep it.  It might not get any better.

Drive a BMW 1 Series and you will realise how good a car can handle!
Oh and so good it was taking sales from Audi??? They are all part of the same group  :grin:
Title: Re: Why is the Mk5 the best?
Post by: dan_apps on 27 June 2009, 11:29
ill bite on this then, ur talkin sh!t egbert nosh! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Why is the Mk5 the best?
Post by: dubcruiser on 27 June 2009, 11:31
ill bite on this then, ur talkin sh!t egbert nosh! :rolleyes:

Agreed Cookie!! I tried to resist but couldn't!!!!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Why is the Mk5 the best?
Post by: Steve_PD on 27 June 2009, 12:10
Drive a BMW 1 Series and you will realise how good a car can handle!

Do the Beemer 1's handle good then? My old man is thinking of getting a 1 series
Title: Re: Why is the Mk5 the best?
Post by: 08micsta on 27 June 2009, 12:20
The 1 series Beemer is appraently one of the best handling acrs on the road... Especially in that 330 and 335i platform.

Mike
Title: Re: Why is the Mk5 the best?
Post by: Egbutt Wash on 27 June 2009, 13:51
Clarkson wrote about the 1 series...

Park one of these on your drive and the neighbours will not think, “Hmm, that’s an expensive car. He must be doing well.” They’ll think, “Hmm, that’s an expensive car. He must be off his rocker.” You can have a Golf GTI for less, and that, in almost every single way, is a better car.

Title: Re: Why is the Mk5 the best?
Post by: R32UK on 27 June 2009, 14:23
The 1 series Beemer is appraently one of the best handling acrs on the road... Especially in that 330 and 335i platform.

Mike

130 & 135 possibly??  :grin:
Title: Re: Why is the Mk5 the best?
Post by: R32UK on 27 June 2009, 14:26
Drive a BMW 1 Series and you will realise how good a car can handle!

Do the Beemer 1's handle good then? My old man is thinking of getting a 1 series

Very well balanced car, and the 130 is all about tail out fun. 265bhp through the rears in a small car is always going to be a hoot. Problem is you either love em or hate em. Personally I really like them, as they are very well put together, but if you were looking at brand new then I would go Golf everytime and pocket the difference.
Title: Re: Why is the Mk5 the best?
Post by: DanoGTI on 27 June 2009, 14:55
Whilst I accept that the 1 series may be a better car (in all classes to be honest), the one thing they got wrong was the styling  :sad: A truly grim-looking car.

This is coming from someone who owned Scoobies - a car renowned for it's legendary handling and performance, let down by truly awful styling!!!  :grin:

Whilst the mk5 may still err on the side of conservative (in comparison to the Renaults & Vauxhalls etc), it is still (25 years later) bought because of its all-round ability.

The arguement about sales=stealing from within its own group is still valid. The Audi costs more, and imho would be mroe of a profit for VAG. We all know that the mk5 never made much for VAG due to its manufacturing costs - hence the mk6. This is a car that I'm not too sure sure on, still don't like the styling, but I think it may grow on me.

Just to add fuel to the fire, I've driven the mk4 and was left feeling very let down :sad: but I then drove the GTI diesel, and thought it was fantastic :smiley:

It's all about heritage and development - imho, the mk5 moved on SO much further from the mk4, that when the mk6 appeared, there wasn't as a big a difference between the two.....

All imho of course :wink:

Dan :grin:
Title: Re: Why is the Mk5 the best?
Post by: R32UK on 27 June 2009, 15:29
^^ that seems to be the issue that most people stuggle to come to terms with. The MK6 is better than the MK5 but how much better is still open to debate. Most people will be happy with their current choice and it these tough times it wont make sense to most to make the switch.
Title: Re: Why is the Mk5 the best?
Post by: smartypants on 27 June 2009, 15:40
Drive a BMW 1 Series and you will realise how good a car can handle!

Do the Beemer 1's handle good then? My old man is thinking of getting a 1 series

Get one. Get a 118d, chip it... 200+bhp, 50mpg+ £30 road tax

Its a no brainer of a car
Title: Re: Why is the Mk5 the best?
Post by: Egbutt Wash on 27 June 2009, 16:04
I found the 118d to have a horrible jarring ride on Lake District roads.  The Golf GTI is much better as an allrounder, handling potholes with ease. 

Horrid little mini-hearse looks and gnome only rear seats, it's not really a good car you know.
Title: Re: Why is the Mk5 the best?
Post by: Martz on 27 June 2009, 16:08
Egbert Nosh is now Jezza Clarkson!

Excellent description and agree for a change!
Title: Re: Why is the Mk5 the best?
Post by: smartypants on 27 June 2009, 16:25
I found the 118d to have a horrible jarring ride on Lake District roads.  The Golf GTI is much better as an allrounder, handling potholes with ease. 

Horrid little mini-hearse looks and gnome only rear seats, it's not really a good car you know.

I agree I think the GTI is a much better drive overall. But running costs are very high compared to the 118d, and it doesnt even touch it for build quality which is in a different league, so as a mode of transport you can't really go wrong.

But you want a bit of sparkle and costs dont matter, GTI every time.

Title: Re: Why is the Mk5 the best?
Post by: dubcruiser on 27 June 2009, 16:27
Egbert Nosh is now Jezza Clarkson!

Excellent description and agree for a change!

Well he copied his quote!!!
I think I would have the R32 over a 130i M Sport to be honest on looks. As for handling though they are different cars but I think the 1 series has it. At the end of the day its personal taste plus both cars appeal to different people and age ranges...
Title: Re: Why is the Mk5 the best?
Post by: R32UK on 27 June 2009, 17:29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZanDoRmGto

 :grin: was always on the cards  :grin:
Title: Re: Why is the Mk5 the best?
Post by: smartypants on 27 June 2009, 17:59
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZanDoRmGto

 :grin: was always on the cards  :grin:

:D

Title: Re: Why is the Mk5 the best?
Post by: Jkctr on 27 June 2009, 19:13
Oh no, he's back  :cry:
Title: Re: Why is the Mk5 the best?
Post by: Saint Steve on 27 June 2009, 20:43
The old crocks don't do it.  My Alfasud was a better sports hatch than the Mk1 VW GTI.
The Mk2 was a lardy old lady cf the mk1.
Mk's 3 & 4 were poor (even in V6 garb).
The Mk5 was good.
So good it was taking sales from Audi.
The new GTI is not a good looker.  It is designed to make Audis look better.

If you have a Mk5 GTI (even a coloured in ED30) then keep it.  It might not get any better.
Correct as always Eggy  :laugh: good to see you back  :wink:
Title: Re: Why is the Mk5 the best?
Post by: Hurdy on 27 June 2009, 23:04
I too must agree with the Nosh man :rolleyes: :smiley:
Title: Re: Why is the Mk5 the best?
Post by: Egbutt Wash on 28 June 2009, 00:59
 :smiley:
Title: Re: Why is the Mk5 the best?
Post by: Egbutt Wash on 28 June 2009, 01:07

Oh and so good it was taking sales from Audi??? They are all part of the same group  :grin:

lol, deliberate gormlessness, I love it.
Title: Re: Why is the Mk5 the best?
Post by: Steve_PD on 05 July 2009, 12:58
Drive a BMW 1 Series and you will realise how good a car can handle!

Do the Beemer 1's handle good then? My old man is thinking of getting a 1 series

Get one. Get a 118d, chip it... 200+bhp, 50mpg+ £30 road tax

Its a no brainer of a car

Well the old man is getting a 120d M-sport this week, fully loaded for a very good price  :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: Why is the Mk5 the best?
Post by: smartypants on 06 July 2009, 09:56
Nice ;)
Title: Re: Why is the Mk5 the best?
Post by: Dave_gti on 07 July 2009, 13:01
I have enjoyed owning my 07 Golf gti, but after 2 years I just couldn't put up with the poor interior build quality, too many damn rattles.. I think I also got a bit bored of the power (although it still puts a smile on face from time to time). So I just did the deal on a new BMW 135i coupe and it's a fond farewell to the GTi! I know you can't really compare the 2 cars as there is over 100 hp difference and a few thousand pounds.. but the Beema just blew me away when I test drove it, and I new I had to have it! Getting a pretty decent price for my Golf though, which surprised me as the spec is pretty basic. I think the demand for good ones is picking up again.