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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: john-d on 25 June 2009, 16:16

Title: to go any lower? new pics page 3, still needs to settle
Post by: john-d on 25 June 2009, 16:16
my car is on coilies and sits like so...

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb271/corsabadboy/PICT0063.jpg)

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb271/corsabadboy/PICT0059.jpg)

now to go any lower on the front i need a whiteline uprated arb, these cost 130 quid ish, and also stiffen the front end promoting understeer.

so do i spend 130 quid spoil the handling and scrape every where and not be able to get on gfs drive to look good or leave as is? opinions?

also it doesnt really look like this anymore, will be washed and pics tomorow :cool:
Title: Re: to go any lower?
Post by: Ben_1uk on 25 June 2009, 16:22
The true dubbers amongst will say, "if it ain't rubbin, it ain't dubbin"! However, if it were my car, I would leave it as it is :cool:
Title: Re: to go any lower?
Post by: gjroe78 on 25 June 2009, 16:24
I'd leave it, but the ARB will improve handling not make it worse  :wink:
Title: Re: to go any lower?
Post by: john-d on 25 June 2009, 16:27
the rear arb improves handling, the front counter acts the good work
Title: Re: to go any lower?
Post by: john-d on 25 June 2009, 16:35
it has been sugested i just remove the front 1 all together, is this wise?
Title: Re: to go any lower?
Post by: Rhyso on 25 June 2009, 16:37
leave it as it is IMO

and personally i wouldn't remove the front ARB
Title: Re: to go any lower?
Post by: gjroe78 on 25 June 2009, 16:47
the rear arb improves handling, the front counter acts the good work
Why would it do that ??? things dont get put on cars to make them handle worse
Title: Re: to go any lower?
Post by: john-d on 25 June 2009, 16:51
BARS on CARS - What applies to me and my vehicle?
Whiteline Jim’s simple sway bar guide to better handling:
Front Wheel Drive – increase the rear sway bar size
Rear Wheel Drive – increase the front sway bar size
4 Wheel Drive – increase front then rear bar size
All Wheel Drive – increase rear then front bar size


taken from whitelines website, fitting a uprated rear arb will improve a fwd cars handling, not both
Title: Re: to go any lower?
Post by: Steve_PD on 25 June 2009, 16:53
so buy the adjustable bar and have the front on a softer setting than the rear  :wink:
Title: Re: to go any lower?
Post by: john-d on 25 June 2009, 16:54
this is the best option really but they are uber expensive :(
Title: Re: to go any lower?
Post by: Steve_PD on 25 June 2009, 16:56
if you run your car any lower you may want to buy a sump guard otherwise your just going to smash it up
which is spending more money again
Title: Re: to go any lower?
Post by: john-d on 25 June 2009, 17:00
i have a sneaky feeling i may leave as is tbh
Title: Re: to go any lower?
Post by: gjroe78 on 25 June 2009, 17:00
so buy the adjustable bar and have the front on a softer setting than the rear  :wink:
+1
Title: Re: to go any lower?
Post by: Steve_PD on 25 June 2009, 17:02
so buy the adjustable bar and have the front on a softer setting than the rear  :wink:
+1

It makes a hell of a difference between soft and hard  :smiley:
Title: Re: to go any lower?
Post by: Grand Master Patch on 25 June 2009, 22:37
I'm still on the middle setting of my 28mm rear bar,i dread to think what it would be like on hard,the treads are starting to look a bit ripped :laugh:
Title: Re: to go any lower?
Post by: chrisj on 25 June 2009, 23:30
Looks nice as it is mate.lowered mine too much when i first had my coilovers and it was a nightmare as it rubbed everywhere :sad:
Title: Re: to go any lower?
Post by: john-d on 25 June 2009, 23:53
i just love the look of a slammed golf, id probably wind the front down and inch to inch and a half, so it sits a tad lower then the rear
Title: Re: to go any lower?
Post by: Philpy on 26 June 2009, 09:09
John-d, that looks real nice, Im surprised uve got it this low already without it rubbing on the ARB!!
What coilovers have ya got out of interest?
Title: Re: to go any lower?
Post by: Wayne on 26 June 2009, 09:12
I would leave as is or raise the rear a little.
Title: Re: to go any lower?
Post by: gjroe78 on 26 June 2009, 09:34
Get some of these instead  :wink:
http://www.kwsuspensions.de/uk/30_Products/21_KW_HLS/index.php (http://www.kwsuspensions.de/uk/30_Products/21_KW_HLS/index.php)
Title: Re: to go any lower?
Post by: barry-gti on 26 June 2009, 10:24
i really dont understand anything about adjusting the ARB's lol. what would the difference be about it being harder or softer? and patch how comes your tyres are looking ripped?
Title: Re: to go any lower?
Post by: Rhyso on 26 June 2009, 10:36
the harder the setting the flatter you corner i.e it will help to minimise (not eliminate) body roll

if you're not 'slamming it' then i would just upgrade the rear anti roll bar as that makes the biggest difference to the handling; basically it helps reduce the understeer
Title: Re: to go any lower?
Post by: john-d on 26 June 2009, 15:47
ive removed the arb now no problems, drives the same, SLAMMED :D pics in a min
Title: Re: to go any lower?
Post by: gjroe78 on 26 June 2009, 16:20
What, you've removed the front ARB completely ???  :shocked:
Title: Re: to go any lower?
Post by: Wayne on 26 June 2009, 16:22
I would never remove the front or any anti roll bar.
Title: Re: to go any lower?
Post by: gjroe78 on 26 June 2009, 16:26
I would never remove the front or any anti roll bar.
+100
Title: Re: to go any lower?
Post by: john-d on 26 June 2009, 16:48
why, most cars from factory dont have them

(http://www.corsasport.co.uk/carimages/8183/dscf0026.jpg)

(http://www.corsasport.co.uk/carimages/8183/dscf0025.jpg)

(http://www.corsasport.co.uk/carimages/8183/dscf00191.jpg)

thats how its sitting at the moment but should settle a little bit, and a few pics of exhaust

(http://www.corsasport.co.uk/carimages/8183/dscf0021.jpg)

(http://www.corsasport.co.uk/carimages/8183/dscf00201.jpg)

and my new stickers.........down low golf

(http://www.corsasport.co.uk/carimages/8183/dscf0022.jpg)

and my personal fave......... pedo bear

(http://www.corsasport.co.uk/carimages/8183/dscf0023.jpg)




plans are to get a 4motion front splitter and do it gloss black(if you can tell in pics grills and mirror bases and rear valance are already done)

get yellow film and 3000k hids for headlamps, smoked repeaters, half smoked rears,  light tints and some anni skirts and a spoiler sprayed to match car, thats preety much it looks wise :D

sorry the car is dirty in pics and they are poor, will get better 1s this weekend
Title: Re: to go any lower? new pics page 3, still needs to settle
Post by: gjroe78 on 26 June 2009, 16:58
Quote
why, most cars from factory dont have them
Yeah, most sh1t cars
Good luck with speed bumps, ramps and uneven roads, had mine that low and got so p1ssed of with it i had it taken up a bit
Sump guard should be your next buy mate  :wink:
Title: Re: to go any lower? new pics page 3, still needs to settle
Post by: john-d on 26 June 2009, 17:02
Quote
why, most cars from factory dont have them
Yeah, most sh1t cars
Good luck with speed bumps, ramps and uneven roads, had mine that low and got so p1ssed of with it i had it taken up a bit
Sump guard should be your next buy mate  :wink:


well it drive no different at all,

yeah sump is on my to do list lol
Title: Re: to go any lower? new pics page 3, still needs to settle
Post by: Steve_PD on 26 June 2009, 17:21
how about some wheel shots to see how low it is, cnat really make it out with the black wheels  :smiley:
Title: Re: to go any lower? new pics page 3, still needs to settle
Post by: john-d on 26 June 2009, 17:31
lol its wet so you can have zoom pic

(http://www.corsasport.co.uk/carimages/8183/low.jpg)
Title: Re: to go any lower? new pics page 3, still needs to settle
Post by: Steve_PD on 26 June 2009, 18:44
Mine looks about as low
Title: Re: to go any lower? new pics page 3, still needs to settle
Post by: john-d on 26 June 2009, 19:13
i was just thinking that, this is far wound down as i would go on the ebay coilies, 10mm or 5 threads from bottom :) it may settle yet it usually can take up to a week
Title: Re: to go any lower? new pics page 3, still needs to settle
Post by: Steve_PD on 26 June 2009, 20:33
I wouldn't have thought they would settle much, the springs are already worn in, same as the damper.
The drop is about right on mine, I can get over speed bumps (slowly) and also have 5 people in the car with no rubbing
Title: Re: to go any lower? new pics page 3, still needs to settle
Post by: john-d on 26 June 2009, 22:20
 i meant due to being jacked up
Title: Re: to go any lower?
Post by: jeynesey on 26 June 2009, 22:24
I would never remove the front or any anti roll bar.
+100

pmsl

+101
Title: Re: to go any lower? new pics page 3, still needs to settle
Post by: Steve_PD on 26 June 2009, 23:12
i meant due to being jacked up

shouldn't make any difference, it would settle in 5 mins
Title: Re: to go any lower? new pics page 3, still needs to settle
Post by: northeast_gti-t on 27 June 2009, 01:20
looks nice that  :cool: but as others have already mention and i may as well add i would'nt have removed your front arb it was fitted by vw for a reason i cant imagine that it would handle better without it although maybe because you have wound the collies down further  :huh: imo re-fit or uprate it
Title: Re: to go any lower? new pics page 3, still needs to settle
Post by: john-d on 27 June 2009, 12:33
i didnt say it handled better just no different, theres loads on ukmkivs run without 1 and the mechanic said its fine too. i will run like this for a month or so then see if i want a uprated 1
Title: Re: to go any lower? new pics page 3, still needs to settle
Post by: bobbarley on 11 July 2009, 13:31
I've got an uprated 25mm front ARB in my mk4, and no rear!!   :grin:

Still can't afford one  :sad:
Title: Re: to go any lower? new pics page 3, still needs to settle
Post by: alex160 on 11 July 2009, 17:39
looking good, may i ask why you want 3000k hid's and yellow light film  :huh:   Thats more what you would put on a mk1 or mk2 golf isnt it  :sad:
Title: Re: to go any lower? new pics page 3, still needs to settle
Post by: jonnyturbo on 11 July 2009, 20:49
yep hope you have deep pockets :laugh: