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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Dec on 17 June 2009, 13:25
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Hey guys,
Thought I would venture into this section as I've been looking at Mk5's. I want a newer car, but also do a lot of miles so I need to think about MPG a bit more. My journey to work is mostly A roads averaging 60/70mph.
What sort of MPG would I get from a GTI doing the daily run (30 miles each way).
Also, What are peoples thoughts on the GT TDI's (facelift ones). Stuck what to do really, would love a GTI, but need economy :undecided:
Not even 100% sure if i will get one as its early days yet, but could be looking to change in a few months/early next year.
Thanks. :)
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On a 30 mile run of 60/70 will easily see 30+. Depending on driving style id say between 30 - 34.
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If the roads are relatively clear and you're driving smoothly you should get 30 to 35 mpg quite easily doing 60 along those roads. Perhaps more if you're careful.
Can't really compare the GTI and the GT TDI as they are different cars and in my opinion are completely different to drive.
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Hmm, would need more than 30mpg really :undecided: Normally average 35 out of my mk3 so maybe my pansy driving would see more lol
In what way are they completely different? :)
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If you get get a GT TDI you will see a GTI on the road and think to yourself, should have got one of them.
Its a 200bhp 2.0T engine Dec, its not going to be THAT economical. TBH Its very economical for the performance it delivers. No idea how your getting that sort MPG out of your 2.0 16v. I get better MPG out of this engine that I did out of my old 115bhp 2.0 8v.
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Yer I know I will :(
I love the GTI, but need better economy in reality. How many miles do you get from a tank?
I suppose my car is lighter than a mk4, and its 150bhp so the engine isnt under as much strain to pull the weight. I dont rag it on the way to work. I managed 6.4mpg at the Pod :tongue:
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In a GTI, at a pretty constant 60, you will see 35mpg or above.
Easily above 30........unless the temptation gets to you that is!!
With sensible driving, and getting around 35mpg, you will probably get 350 miles, or above, from a tank.
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I suppose my car is lighter than a mk4, and its 150bhp so the engine isnt under as much strain to pull the weight.
Spot on mate. 8v is a gutless POS engine imo.
It really depends what roads you Im driving on and what mood Im in as to how much I get to a tank and varies from person to person so its REALLY had to tell what you would get. I get about 300 to a tank and thats with all the mods I have and some enthusiastic driving which isnt too bad I think.
For the last 65 hours of driving my average MPG has been 29.8MPG.
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I'm sorry to say it, but if MPG is your priority, then it has to be a TDI. :sad:
You will easily get 35mpg in a sensibly driven GTI, but you'll get over 50 in a TDI.
Obviously, you won't get the same pleasure from the oil burner and IMHO, I think the old TDI engine is far too rough and noisy to live with. They are surprisingly quick, though.
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I do 30 miles exactly to work and back - mix of Motorway, dual carriageway, a road and back road - real mix... but good flowing traffic
I drive around 80mph on the motorway/dual carriageway and 60 on the A roads - and the occaisonal blast on the back roads
I get regularly 33mpg
on long motorway journeys driving like miss daisy I can get 39mpg. But I also recently hooned it two and from work and got around 22mpg :D
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My mate has a Bora tdi, and that is stupidly quick, and my other mate has a Diesel Ibiza cupra which is also crazy quick. Its all about torque in diesels :tongue:
Hmm, I guess I will just wait and see what happens in a few months time. I will be doing spaceship miles in it, have done 13k since January :undecided: so a diesel would work out cheaper, and a GTI would lose its value alot quicker with the extra miles?
Thanks for your help :) I know the GTI is the better car, but it would be ruined very quickly :(
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All depends what you want to do and what you can realisticly afford and / or what you want out the car. I did 16k miles in the MK5 last year . . .
I had MUCH more fun in those 16k miles in the GTI than I would have in an "average" diesel. I bet if you actually sit down and do the figures it doesnt actually work out THAT much more and for the extra cost Id rather have the nicer car. All this is imo.
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Yes but when I came to re-sell it, the GTI with say 120k on the clock is going to be worth less that the TDI with 120k on the clock. Generally because a lot of diesels have high mileage :undecided:
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Yes and No.
Any car with 120k on the clock isn't going to fetch decent money, diesel or petrol.
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Well no, maybe not 120k but say 70k, i still think that the diesel would hold a bit more value :/ probably just my interpretation really! :embarassed:
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Sounds like your trying to talk yourself in a derv :undecided:
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don't forget the price of the pumps is much nearer now than its been recently
on average its now only 2 pence per litre between petrol and diesel coupled with the fact you'll travel at least 100 miles further on the same amount of fuel
DERV FTW :grin: :grin: :grin:
Sounds like your trying to talk yourself in a derv :undecided:
cos he knows it makes sense :tongue:
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I was wondering how long it would take you to get your nose in here :D
I actually pay more than the price of normal diesel :(. Filled up yesterday @ 1.10 for V-Power compared to 1.07 for regular diesel :(
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I was wondering how long it would take you to get your nose in here :D
I actually pay more than the price of normal diesel :(. Filled up yesterday @ 1.10 for V-Power compared to 1.07 for regular diesel :(
i've been watching it since the start but thought it was about time i butted in :laugh: :laugh:
and i can only lol @ your last sentence :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
super diesel down here is 1.06.9p so i travel even further for less :tongue:
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London prices :rolleyes:
V-power diesel was 1.14.
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I paid 106.9 for super the other day, with both petrol and diesel (regular) were 101.9 :tongue:
My mate had a 206 1.4 diesel, it had £35 a year tax and he got 650 miles from a tank! That would do me 2 weeks driving on one tank :tongue: Might get one of those and save up for a while and get a mk5 gti lol
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My mate had a 206 1.4 diesel, it had £35 a year tax and he got 650 miles from a tank!
Yeah, but I get up in the morning and actually look forward to my drive to work and cant wait for home time so I can drive it back. I bet he cant say the same . .
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The 2.0T is a very jekyl and hyde engine in terms of fuel consumption. Cruise along with gentle acceleration and you will easily hit 35 mpg, I've even seen 40 for a short while when sticking to 50 mph in 6th for a long stretch.
Drive it like a GTI and you are unlikely to see anything better than 27-28 real world.
Cane it everywhere and sub 20 mpg for sure.
Given the mpg you're looking for, I don't think the GTI is the one to go for in all honesty :sad:
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Is the 2.0T better on fuel than the 1.8T mk4's? :undecided:
Tbh, I still live at home. When I move out, it will be closer to work so really it doesnt matter about fuel because I'm going to be sorting that problem out eventually anyway :tongue:
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(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d122/mat138l/tints.jpg)
ORRRRRR
(http://www.thecarchoice.co.uk/images/017_206_Diesel.JPG)
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If your a red blooded male, and a true petrol head, get a GTI.
If you take it up the bum and walk with your hand at 90 degrees to your forearm, get a diesel..
:grin:
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Mike, sorry to own you, but this ones better :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
(http://www.sixspeedphoto.com/miscimages/iBoost/iboostnew01.jpg)
(http://www.sixspeedphoto.com/miscimages/iBoost/iboostnew02.jpg)
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Agreed. lol. I took the first pic on google images.
THE SHAME!!!!
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Is the 2.0T better on fuel than the 1.8T mk4's? :undecided:
I had a mk4 1.8T. With that car, on my 20 minute / 7 mile commute (about half dual carriage way / half through medium traffic town driving) I could give it the beans coming off roundabouts etc, cruise at a steady 70-80 on the DC and make an easy 30-31 mpg.
With the mk5 to get that I have to be a bit more restrained with the accelerator and cruise more like 60-70. Driving the way I did with the mk4 gets me 27-28.
Short answer no it isn't. Like I say though, its very sensitive to a heavy right foot (same journey driven like a loon 22mpg). Like AlanD says for what it is its very good fuel wise but its not the most economical car out there by a long shot.
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If you're having to ask the question then just go for the DERV. It will be much cheaper to run and in real world terms no different in performance - the GTI doesnt even sound that great anyway, so you're not missing on that either!
But owning a GTI is a different matter, and it looks infinitely better than the TDI - and it will hold its value better, even with a lot of miles on.... as its a Golf GTI.
I wouldnt mind either car for different reasons, but I KNOW I would be looking envious over at a GTI owner in a TDI....
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If you're having to ask the question then just go for the DERV. It will be much cheaper to run and in real world terms no different in performance - the GTI doesnt even sound that great anyway, so you're not missing on that either!
Milltek and a Remap has soon sorted that out ;)
Totally transforms the car. In real world term mine would now piss all over a derv and does sound nice so . . .
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i love my Gt 140
it looks just as nice with a bit of work, (changing the wheels as i dont want it to be a GTI rep, had them before bumper)
i get about 45-50 mpg when doing 60 on a duel carrigeway, and the torque is awesome as you can overtake with ease, probly not as good as the GTI but its still not a slow car.
i drove from south wales to bournemouth airport this year and did it with £40 in the tank.
but as said above, if its speed and noise ur after, deffinatly the GTI. economy and high mileage, the GT
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Drove an Ibiza cupra diesel last night, 160bhp, loads of torque...
Oh my! Was so good.. but sounded pants (had a BMC CDA but thats it).
:undecided: Deffo prefer the look of the GTI over the GT's :smiley: