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Title: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: sambo on 08 June 2009, 19:14
Just wondering which you would choose and why. SSeem's for my budget I can get a fully loaded 54/05 with roughly 50k or a basic (ie no armrest, heated seats, MFSW etc) 06/56 with 20k ?

Just interested in others opinions!

Sam
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Post by: the dude on 08 June 2009, 19:29
I would go for the older one, as long as it has documentation to the 50 000 miles, and looks well looked after.
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Post by: TagnuT on 08 June 2009, 20:13
If you don't do too many miles. You could bring the mileage down  :smiley:

Personally, I would keep looking for a low mileage car. But, it all depends on how they have been looked after and how they were driven.
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Post by: celica on 08 June 2009, 20:14
bit more specfic on the two cars

what's your budget?
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Post by: Steve_PD on 08 June 2009, 20:26
Old and fully loaded  :wink: you dont do any miles any way
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Post by: Rhyso on 08 June 2009, 20:34
Old and fully loaded  :wink: you dont do any miles any way

+1
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Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 08 June 2009, 20:37
older and loaded. The 06 will be 4 years soon and still be poverty spec.
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Post by: smartypants on 08 June 2009, 20:39
+2

I bought mine on a 55 plate with 55k miles fully loaded (minus 18"). I test drove one at a VW garage on an 06 with 20k miles for a lot more money, less kit and to be honest it was knackered in comparison. Interior was shoddy, the wheels were wrecked and the syncro had gone in 5th gear.

I would not be at all worried about any kind of mileage as long as its well serviced and well looked after - you could bag yourself a bargain!
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Post by: ub7rm on 08 June 2009, 20:40
Old and fully loaded  :wink: you dont do any miles any way

+1

+3

The 05 and earlier one were better anyway.  Blue tinted glass, no visible radio aerial, silver ashtray cover, 10 speakers as standard, 3 reading lights in the front to name but a few.  All these things were dropped from about the 55 plate onwards as a cost cutting excercise  :sad:
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Post by: smartypants on 08 June 2009, 20:45
I have some of those bits (reading lights, speakers, non-aerial, tinted glass) - were they still options on 55+ plate cars?

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Post by: sambo on 08 June 2009, 20:56
Cheers for all the replies chaps. Glad everyone is thinking the same as me  :cool: 

Your right I do feck all miles (3k p/a) but that would level out a high miler or give me a super low, low miler if you get what I mean. In all fairlness i'll probably be keeping it for a while anyway so the super low miles would gain on the premium i'd have to pay now if that makes sense!

Not much dropping up within 200 mile's of Devon unfortunatly, seen a nice red 54 plate fully loaded, looks immaculate to be honest but it's a 15 hour round trip  :cry: (near glasgow)

Haven't even driven a mk5 yet!  :grin:

Sam
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: ub7rm on 08 June 2009, 20:57
I have some of those bits (reading lights, speakers, non-aerial, tinted glass) - were they still options on 55+ plate cars?



No, but you might find that yours is an 04 MY car but was registered later.  I park next to another 05 plate at work and it has the aerial so its not as clear cut as registration years.

The 10 speakers were an option after that, and I'm not sure when the three reading lights were phased out....

The blue glass and the no aerial are the giveaways...
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Post by: smartypants on 08 June 2009, 20:59
I have some of those bits (reading lights, speakers, non-aerial, tinted glass) - were they still options on 55+ plate cars?



No, but you might find that yours is an 04 MY car but was registered later.  I park next to another 05 plate at work and it has the aerial so its not as clear cut as registration years.

Thats very possibly true! Although the guy I bought it off got it brand new and waited 9 months for delivery!
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Post by: ub7rm on 08 June 2009, 21:04
Further Info

The changes were from MY 06 onwards, so 55 onwards (ish depending on actual registration date)

Copied and pasted from mk-ivs thanks to JonnyG

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OK, found a source for each years MY changes

MY06 Changes were :-

Golf - All Models

• Radio / Navigation knobs now with chrome plated finish
• Gear Shift Cover with a Chrome plates surround
• Change to door side trim
• Open ended spanner in toolkit discontinued
• "Assistance in Europe" manulas discontinued in Handbooks
• Roof Aerial in conjunction with RCD300/500/Plus replaces aerial in rear windscreen
• Mid range speaker discontinued in RCD300 and RCD300 Plus
• New operating controls on multi-function steering wheel.

GTi specific

• New Leather steering wheel with tiptronic paddles for DSG models
• Front foglights changed from projection to reflector technology

MY07 Changes were :-

• Automatic employment of warning lights under emergency braking
• 3 large head rests in the rear
• Whiplash optimised headrests
• Change to front courtesy light – discontinuation of the middle lamp and housing is no longer lacquered
• Radio and navigation systems – change to chrome surrounds on knobs, see picture below:
• Change of icon on the lock/unlock button, see picture below:
• Location of the airbag warning label will be on the B pillar rather than next to the windscreen
• Centre console foot space covering for front passengers in black only (beige and grey discontinued)

 MY08 Changes were :-

 Golf - All trim levels

• Rod aerial replaces ‘shark fin’ aerial when the optional satellite navigation system is ordered.
• Introduction of new generation immobiliser. Generation IV.
• AC button instead of ECON button for climatronic air conditioning – see illustration number 1.
• New feature on climatronic air conditioning unit. Air quality sensor with automatic changeover switch.
• Change to the symbols on the indicator/wiper lever.
• The black centre armrest with fabric covering will be changed from a ’fell’ seam to a ‘join’ seam. This will be introduced from Week 22 onwards.
• Removal of optional factory fit telephone preparation. Available as aftersales fit only.

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Doesn't mention when the blue glass was dropped but it was the very early ones that had this.  Also mine ( a very ealy one) has partially open fog light honeycombs which was dropped sharpish as well.  Early ones get a switch that disengages the tilt sensor or interior sensors individually whereas later models just disables the interior sensors.

The pre 07 GTI's had active headrest but were replaced with the less advanced 'whiplash optimised' one.  I like how the list tries to imply this was an improvement.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: sambo on 08 June 2009, 21:11
Nice one, only just noticed the aerials now! agree much better without. Do they still work well in the 'rear windscreen'?

Sam
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Post by: ub7rm on 08 June 2009, 21:12
Nice one, only just noticed the aerials now! agree much better without. Do they still work well in the 'rear windscreen'?

Sam

Sorry I keep editing posts!

Yeah it works perfectly as part of the rear screen on mine.
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Post by: smartypants on 08 June 2009, 21:15
Interesting.... thanks for that
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Post by: sambo on 08 June 2009, 21:19
What plates your on smartypants and ub7rn?

For some reason I thought the 54 reg's were to be dodged but from reading this and other info, they may be a good buy now as any problems would have been sorted through warranty, they come with more goodies and there cheaper!?!  :laugh:

Sam
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: ub7rm on 08 June 2009, 21:31
Mine is an 05 plate and have had no trouble apart from a dodgy high level brake light and a steering rack which was replaced under warranty.

The 54 plates were said to be avoided as they were the first to roll off the production line and would have had nigles but like you say should be all sorted now. 

Somewhere along the line (06 onwards) the engine code changed from AXX to something else... not sure exactly what the change was but the main aim was to make it compliant with euro v emissions (or maybe euro vi - i can't remember).
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: smartypants on 08 June 2009, 21:31
What plates your on smartypants and ub7rn?

For some reason I thought the 54 reg's were to be dodged but from reading this and other info, they may be a good buy now as any problems would have been sorted through warranty, they come with more goodies and there cheaper!?!  :laugh:

Sam

55 plate, registered Nov 2005 ;)
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: Exonian on 09 June 2009, 05:20
Mine is an early 05 car and it has a nicer standard spec than some later cars I looked at when considering changing my car. The fog lights look much nicer and I'm a big fan of the blue glass (on certain colours at least). The rear screen ariel works fine in my experience.

One major expense to consider is that the cam-belt is done on 54/05/55 plate cars. I got mine done for £300 including water pump so make sure you use this as a negotiation point on a car that hasn't had this done, and also keep in mind that it will need doing soon on 2006 cars. I know there is a major debate going on as to whether you need this doing, but just consider the costs if the belt does break!
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Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 09 June 2009, 06:33
^^^^^
Yep big year the 4th year and some may be put off by the costs, it may even drive peeps to sell on it's that bad. Circa £800-£1000 for main service, dsg service, cambelt, water pump, brake fluid, Ac recharge etc. So use it as a lever if you're buying, I have wrestled with myself time and time again about selling but I just can't see what on earth I would replace her with. I can't afford to pay more just for the sake of changing. Although I've had a lifelong dream for a 996 911 and a recent superb example is up for sale but sadly the seller wants too much money for it, and was even willing to take mine in p/x ..... We buy any car etc values both at the same but the seller wants more money to change, so that deal is a dead un. Besides his car had 85,000 on it.....50,000 less than mine! Heart ruling head again ......
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Post by: jaydubveedub on 09 June 2009, 08:19
I usually buy cars on condition. Tatty cars with low miles usually don't make sense. If the older one is in good nick i'd go for that, as I tend to get bored with pov spec cars.
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: Gene Hunt. on 09 June 2009, 08:20
Old and fully loaded  :wink: you dont do any miles any way

+1

+3

The 05 and earlier one were better anyway.  Blue tinted glass, no visible radio aerial, silver ashtray cover, 10 speakers as standard, 3 reading lights in the front to name but a few.  All these things were dropped from about the 55 plate onwards as a cost cutting excercise  :sad:
.........mine is an 05 plate & has all the above.Plus no rattles or squeakes  :grin: :wink:
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Post by: neo66 on 09 June 2009, 09:00
I prefer to go for new as poss, that way theyve ironed out any problems and you will have bit more piece of mind with some warranty!, and some things tend to look a bit better.
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Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 09 June 2009, 10:03
I think the real answer Sambo is "It all depends...."

...on the car in question, if the car has been loved, looked after and serviced well and pampered then a few extra months on the car doesn't make much difference.

I would take a forum members car for example over some rep wagon that had been ragged and full of wethers wrappers, ginsters crumbs and snotters in the vents....  :laugh:

All of us on here tend to treat our cars with a healthy degree of respect and insist on the cars being serviced properly, even to the point of ensuring the twits dont wash it ffs.... I mean where else would you find dudes willing to part with £400 or so on a car wash (lol...I'm on a roll now eh?) ...and calling it a Detail...I may just sort that for myself soon lol...  :grin:

Good luck with your search mate, I looked for ages too and found the best example I could at the time.
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: sambo on 09 June 2009, 17:11
Cheers for the replies  :wink:

Problem with forum's are most of the members are to hooked on there car's too sell them, hence the reason they spend ages chatting to strangers about things like what date VW decided to put an aerial on top! (no offense)  :grin:  Most people wouldn't give 2 hoot's but not us lot (including me I might add)  :laugh:

So rarely do they come up for sale!

Certainly a lot of GTI's for sale are rep mobile's normally the dodgy phone hold on the dash is a giveaway!!!

Just a matter of waiting for the right one to pop up, as sad as it sounds I pretty much sit next to the computer every evening looking for new arrivals in autotrader, pistonheads, ebay, and all the forum's just hoping to be the first to spot 'the car' but so far there so far away that before the weekend comes around, which is the onlty time I get to travel and view, there gone....  :rolleyes:

My requirements have changed a fair bit anyway, now i've seen the interlagos, i like it. Pictures make it look cheap like an old man's leg warmer, but in real life it looks nice. Also xenons, would settle with the winter pack now so the possibility to retro fit is there. Still must be 3 door though which is proving to be the most challenging yet!

It'll happen, just not sure when!


Sam
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Post by: DanoGTI on 09 June 2009, 19:35
Chin up mate :smiley:
FWIW, took me 6 months to find mine. I had actually given up for a while, toyed with keeping the Audi a bit longer, then look at one later in the year once the mk6 had been out a while.

Took the kids to the "outlaws" (great 1/2 term that was!!LOL!), was driving back home and decided to stop at a vw dealership. Saw my car, and that was that....... right place at the right time..... etc etc.......

Mine's "old" (my05), but only has 22k on the clock with FVWSH - ensured that the belt had been done (if not, it was part of the deal), 4 new tyres, new brakes all round etc....
Car's good for the next 12 months/ 4 years!  :wink:

Dan :smiley:
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Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 09 June 2009, 22:04
I've got leather but actually do like interlagos! I am old enough to remember mk1 and 2 when new... Not a chavy Burberry thing at all LOL. We tend to be a bit anal here mate but I'm sure it will help you be a more informed buyer and thereby protecting your investment and having loads of fun hassle free motoring.....it's only later on in ownership, when you're hooked you'll start to notice others stubbies or bee stings, monza I or II, open or closed fog grills or a drop of 10mm were all sad eh wooo hoo ;-)
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Post by: dustybones on 10 June 2009, 10:18
Hey dude

I was a leather chap!! for sure, last few cars had to have it etc. However current gti has cloth, and I luv it, and to be honest I dont miss the leather at all. For me I would try for one that has Xenons if poss cos the standard lights are not too good. But whatever happens take yer time and dont panic buy, plenty of good motas out there just be a wee bit patient

cheers
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Post by: sambo on 10 June 2009, 17:53
Right,


Have a car lined up. Basically struck a deal with a seller in Glasgow. Involve's flying to glasgow, getting picked up by the seller, taking the car for a test drive back to his house (to confirm address on documnets etc) Then 8 hour's (not including stops) drive home.

Car is a red late 54 reg manual, top spec, leather, xenons, highline, sat nav, 6 disc, winter pack, folding mirrors, auto wipers etc, 17" monzas.

51k full MOT, full VWSH, all the paperwork, mint condition with 1 chip in paint on door.

Only downside is cambelt needs doing but I can get that done cheap and tax runs out end of the month.

Want's £10k for it.


Anyone think i'm mad, or does it sound like a deal.

Would leave me a grand to spend on nice bits also.
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Post by: ub7rm on 10 June 2009, 18:04
Great spec and good mileage.  A little pricey for a private sale 54 plate. 

On the other hand its worth whatever you are willing to pay and I think think its only the high mileage and or poorly kept examples that have broken through the 10k barrier.

You might spend ages looking for another one.

Once you're in his living room suggest he knocks the cost of the flight of the car.

At least you'll enjoy the drive home!  :cool:

 
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Post by: sambo on 10 June 2009, 18:24
Was up for £10,500 ovno so £10k was taking into account the excess travelling! Will cost £115 for 2 of us to go up, thinking about the boring drive home and security factor of taking 2 people.

Really can't see much me getting anything as good for £10k.

There are some 54 plates around for £11k+ at the moment, the prices have really firmed up. The car is supposed to be immaculate also.


Sam  :undecided:
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Post by: ub7rm on 10 June 2009, 18:44
Go for it.  Believe me, once you start driving it you won't regret it  :evil:
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Post by: DanoGTI on 10 June 2009, 19:05
This is the key thing - prices HAVE firmed up at the moment. The mk6 just isn't justifiable to alot of people (sorry, but this is my take on it)

Sounds like a good spec tbh. Ask around, there's a  few peeps on here who had discount vouchers for work such as cam belts.......

keep us posted :smiley:

DAn :)
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: sambo on 10 June 2009, 19:16
Calling all tornado red owners!

Does the car ever look orange like in some photo's?

Prime example here (not the car in question I might add although similar spec) http://www.pistonheads.com/SALES/1082412.htm

In the first photo I love the colour. The 3rd photo looks a bit orange though and I think I would be dissappointed to come out to that on a summers morning  :laugh:


A very good friend is a VW master tech so cambelt won't be an issue  :wink:

Cheers, Sam
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Post by: ub7rm on 10 June 2009, 19:21
Calling all tornado red owners!

Does the car ever look orange like in some photo's?


Cheers, Sam

No  :cool:
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Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 10 June 2009, 19:31
Hmmm.....and theres me, in Glasgow with probably close to your ideal GTI (save that its red) and me with my ideal porker lined up too...but we are fooked all because the seller of that car wants 5k above what "we buy any car" values it at......hmmmm......frustrating cos, they value mine at £200 less than the porsche! grrs....he wants my car and 3k! we cant even get close... (shame), guess it has to be right for everyone.

let me know if youre coming up to Raintown and if you have the time, have a look and test drive of mine, no obligation, at least it will give you something to compare it (and dsg) against/ or use as a lever to get a better deal.

Yes in photos sometimes with a crap camera or phone it looks orange. see below how it can look with a good shot...ps no R32 alloys now pescaras....
(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg277/nogolfclubsatall/P2160213.jpg)
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Post by: sambo on 10 June 2009, 20:13
Unlucky mate, it's a lovely motor you have there, but I can't quite stretch to that kind of money  :embarassed: i'm certain you would get near to what your after if you did sell though.

Looks nice in the picture, actually think the r32 wheels looks good in that pic, not normally a fan personally.


Hoping to get the cambelt done, colour code the skirts, back bumper and splitter and a few bits and bobs too.

Sam
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Post by: dubcruiser on 13 June 2009, 19:30
Calling all tornado red owners!

Does the car ever look orange like in some photo's?

Prime example here (not the car in question I might add although similar spec) http://www.pistonheads.com/SALES/1082412.htm

In the first photo I love the colour. The 3rd photo looks a bit orange though and I think I would be dissappointed to come out to that on a summers morning  :laugh:


A very good friend is a VW master tech so cambelt won't be an issue  :wink:

Cheers, Sam

It can do in some photos but its all down to how good the camera is. If it looks Orange with the naked eye though, get back on the plane and fly back!!!

I love my Tornado Red Mk4 (you saw it at the RR day!) and it always comes up a treat after a wash and more so with some polish!!

By the way Sam, Mk5 sounds good with that spec. How come the Mk4 is getting the elbow then??  :cry:
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Post by: sambo on 13 June 2009, 22:02
Alright mate,

Just fancy a change really. Bit more comfort, few more toys etc. Had the mk4 for 3 and a half years now and done everything i want to without going back and changing things which will involve ploughing lots of tosh into a car which isn't worth much. Won't be doing as much to this one (haha! yer right) but keeping it oem+  maybe a small drop on springs/shocks, new wheels, quite fancy the phaeton helios 19's if i can get hold of a set, colour coding, and then just engine tuning. Maybe r32 rear valance and milltek to suit at a later date.


Helios
(http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3670/allesgemischt128jw4.jpg)

probably get some 18's as a quick fix as this one has 17" monzas on which don't do the car any favours.

Had someone hanging on for my car for a little while, very keen but couldn't sell till I had a replacement!


Cheers, Sam  :smiley:
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Post by: dubcruiser on 13 June 2009, 22:28
Fair enough, sounds like a plan. Those Phaeton wheels look  :cool:
I didn't realise you had had the Mk4 for so long... Understand after over 3 years your after a change plus if you have a buyer then half the battle has been won!

Good luck on your collection trip. Hope the car is as good as it sounds (and it should be!!). Enjoy the trip back... (Oh and 8 hour drive back... Yer right!  :tongue:)

Gets some pics up when your ready!!  :smiley:
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Post by: bobbarley on 13 June 2009, 22:34
I'd for for old and fully loaded :)
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Post by: TomB on 14 June 2009, 02:11
Nice one, sounds like you're getting a nice spec!

A couple of things, yeah Tornado Red can look pink in some shots, but in real life it looks great as long as its polished every few months.  It was the same with my old Polos and Corrado.  I wouldn't refuse to buy an orange car, it means it got more layers of paint on it!

When I looked at MK5s, I found that the Monza IIs looked a bit too big and the ride comfort was compromised with the 40 profile tyres.

I'm not saying don't get 18s, but don't get rid of the 17s as you might find the ride a bit harsh.
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: smartypants on 14 June 2009, 08:00
I have 17s on mine, and I actually prefer them. They are more subtle - give the car a bit more of a classy look. 18s are just a bit too showy. But that all depends on what you like to be honest! But I certainly wouldnt say it didnt do it justice... perhaps its very colour dependent
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Post by: sambo on 14 June 2009, 10:02
Nice one, sounds like you're getting a nice spec!

A couple of things, yeah Tornado Red can look pink in some shots, but in real life it looks great as long as its polished every few months.  It was the same with my old Polos and Corrado.  I wouldn't refuse to buy an orange car, it means it got more layers of paint on it!

When I looked at MK5s, I found that the Monza IIs looked a bit too big and the ride comfort was compromised with the 40 profile tyres.

I'm not saying don't get 18s, but don't get rid of the 17s as you might find the ride a bit harsh.


Won't be as harsh as what i'm used to! ( 18's on coilovers! )  Know what your saying though cheers mate.

I have 17s on mine, and I actually prefer them. They are more subtle - give the car a bit more of a classy look. 18s are just a bit too showy. But that all depends on what you like to be honest! But I certainly wouldnt say it didnt do it justice... perhaps its very colour dependent

Not overly keen on the 18" monza'a, to much polishedmetal for me, although they look good, just not my cuppa tea, plus the white worm is a nuisance! Think a differant design wheel would complement the mk5 shape better, like the pescara ed30 wheels for example.

Cheers, Sam
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Post by: Gene Hunt. on 14 June 2009, 10:26
Nice one, sounds like you're getting a nice spec!

A couple of things, yeah Tornado Red can look pink in some shots, but in real life it looks great as long as its polished every few months.  It was the same with my old Polos and Corrado.  I wouldn't refuse to buy an orange car, it means it got more layers of paint on it!

When I looked at MK5s, I found that the Monza IIs looked a bit too big and the ride comfort was compromised with the 40 profile tyres.

I'm not saying don't get 18s, but don't get rid of the 17s as you might find the ride a bit harsh.


Won't be as harsh as what i'm used to! ( 18's on coilovers! )  Know what your saying though cheers mate.

I have 17s on mine, and I actually prefer them. They are more subtle - give the car a bit more of a classy look. 18s are just a bit too showy. But that all depends on what you like to be honest! But I certainly wouldnt say it didnt do it justice... perhaps its very colour dependent

Not overly keen on the 18" monza'a, to much polishedmetal for me, although they look good, just not my cuppa tea, plus the white worm is a nuisance! Think a differant design wheel would complement the mk5 shape better, like the pescara ed30 wheels for example.

Cheers, Sam
........same here mate thats why i fitted some edition 30 alloys to my mk 5.
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: TomB on 15 June 2009, 22:24
We can't complain at your choice, they suit the MK5 perfectly...just a shame they're a nightmare to clean!
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: neo66 on 16 June 2009, 10:34
With the older mk5's I beleive there was a steering rack issue on left lock, and also check the rear hatch badge for whiteworm as they are just a straight flat badge and prone for this alot more unlike the new 3d style. :smiley:
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: sambo on 16 June 2009, 17:32
Not overly worried about the badge, it's an excuse to get a carbon replacement. Whiteworm is just water penetration isn't it?

Will check the steering rack  :cool: Am i right in saying this is more of an annoyance rather than a mechanical failure?

4 days to go  :smiley:

Sam
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: ub7rm on 16 June 2009, 17:59
Yes.  VW termed it a 'comfort' issue not a technical issue so if you can live with the noise (which isn't really that bad though annoying once you know its there) its not a safety / driveability thing.
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: sambo on 16 June 2009, 18:05
Cheers for clearing that up mate :smiley:

Sam
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Post by: FamilyDub on 19 June 2009, 16:09
I have 17s on mine, and I actually prefer them. They are more subtle - give the car a bit more of a classy look. 18s are just a bit too showy. But that all depends on what you like to be honest! But I certainly wouldnt say it didnt do it justice... perhaps its very colour dependent

+1, but it's all subjective of course!

As the wife tells me, is that extra inch worth the ride discomfort?
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: sambo on 19 June 2009, 17:21
Well, tomorrow's the big day, flying up to glasgow at 12.00pm to view the car, hope to fook it's not a wasted (and expensive) journey!  :smiley:

Sam
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: DanoGTI on 19 June 2009, 17:27
Good luck Sam!!!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: dubcruiser on 19 June 2009, 17:35
It will be fine. Think positive!!!  :cool:
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: sambo on 19 June 2009, 20:20
Cheers lad's!

 :smiley:
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 19 June 2009, 21:14
Sambo, Good luck matey I'm in Glasgow, bring waterproofs and a warm jumper. It's only June. ;-)
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: Rhyso on 22 June 2009, 09:34
so did you do a deal??  :huh:
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: AlanD on 22 June 2009, 10:01
How did it go Sambo !!!?
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 22 June 2009, 14:23
He's prolly laid up in bed having caught the cold or pneumonia from the crap weather we have up here :-)
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: dubcruiser on 22 June 2009, 18:31
How did it go Sambo !!!?

Thought we would of seen some pics by now!!!  :huh:
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: ub7rm on 22 June 2009, 18:53
He's obviously enjoying himself too much  :smiley:
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: sambo on 22 June 2009, 19:22
Hello!

Well i am now officially a mk5 gti owner!  :cool:

Didn't go quite so smoothly though  :sad:

Firstly the plane was delayed, didn't get up to Glasgow until 3pm  :huh: in the end. Got picked up looked over the car etc. Felt a bit rushed by this point (first error) but also excited and taken in by the car. Had a good look around the car etc. Interior is MINT condition, very little wear on any of the leather, few scuffs on the grab handles, like the mk4 they've got that soft touch coating on them so mark easily.. no problem. Noticed a few stone chips on bonnet too which I wasn't told about, no problem I can knock a few quid off maybe?

Matey I bought it off wanted to verify the bankers draft I had at his bank.. which closed at 4pm. So I drove the car around and headed towards the bank. First impressions, drive's lovely, not as quick as my mk4 but then I have done a fair bit to that. Noticed a big change in the way the car handles, rear seems planted.

Anyway got to his bank, they couldn't verify it even though they said to him they could :angry: so were left in a bit of a situation.. Ball is now in his court so to speak, i'm stuck up in Glasgow with no way of getting home other than this car..

Anyway, i showed him the money had come out of my account which gave him a bit of security and showed him my passport etc..


So, thought to myself, f**k it i'll leave the stonechip issue and give him the full amount, as he had also put a new michelin pilot sport on the day before and filled the tank, so fair do's. Paid him the full amount (10k) and left feeling fine about the whole situation. nice.

Left Glasgow at 5.30pm  :cry: with an 8 hour drive ahead of me. Get to Carlise for a bit to eat. Have a quick glance back and think whats that?  :sad: Closer inspection and there is a paint bubble on the wheel arch  :cry: :cry: :cry:

Looks like it has had a paint job on the wheel arch..So get home feeling gutted, thinking i'd bought a write off or something. Neighbour works for BMW bodyshop and had a look. Reckon's it may have been keyed or something very light and actually commented on how good a job they had done as there where no obvious blend in marks, taken the window's etc out to hide it all, a job to spot etc etc. Look's like it was repaired near the beginning of its life as it has aged the same as the rest of the car.....

Anyway. mate works for VW showed him, unusual he says.. BUT reckons it would get done under warranty  :wink: with a bit of his persuasion. So i'm thinking IDEAL!  free touch up.. Next day i speak to the BMW sprayer who's advise's me the company who carry out VW warranty work are known to be bodger's etc

  :sick:

So basically had a reall up and down weekend were sometime's i've felt like setting fire to the thing, and others i love it. Think i'm going to skip the warranty work after reading stories like R32UK on here etc and just put my hand in my pocket.. Get all the skirts and splitter, back bumper colour coded and a complete de-swirl so the car is mint. Just mean's the modding will have to wait a few weeks  :grin:

Cheers for the interest, will get some photo's up over the next few days.
Sam
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: dubcruiser on 22 June 2009, 19:29
A there he is!!! Mixed emotions then Sam but I would say your sounding 80% happy with the other 20% coming when you got some mods done and feels a bit more like your own rather than someone elses. Always takes me a while to build a "relationship" with a car!  :cool:
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: sambo on 22 June 2009, 19:37
A there he is!!! Mixed emotions then Sam but I would say your sounding 80% happy with the other 20% coming when you got some mods done and feels a bit more like your own rather than someone elses. Always takes me a while to build a "relationship" with a car!  :cool:

Cheers mate, Yer happy with it overall, just feel a bit gutted as the whole idea of going to glasgow was to get what i thought was a genuine, straight, original clean example to work off. In all fairness I don't think the previous owner even knew about it, he wasn't a true petrolhead if you know what i mean..

Just want to get it all sorted now, then when I get a bit of money start modding  :evil: wheels first I think, then remap.. then go from there..  :laugh:

Sam
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: DanoGTI on 22 June 2009, 19:52
Sorry but this thread is now WORTHLESS without pics :wink: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: TomB on 22 June 2009, 21:13
I spent 20 minutes inspecting the paint on my MK5, a few weeks later when washing it I noticed paint runs under the offside mirror.

Not only that, they've done a poor job of blending it in so now I've removed my sideskirts for my new Votex ones, I have a paint line down one side where they couldn't be bothered to take the skirt off (5 minute job!)

My car cost £500 less, doesn't have half the spec and you only need to blow in one arch, I need to paint the whole side!

I hope that makes you feel better!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: sambo on 22 June 2009, 22:18
Just been round to see my mate from VW so he could get some photo's of the arch to send off. Had a good clean and treat the leather/interior. Honestly feels like a new car now, really pleased with the inside. Once the bodywork's done and colour coded i'll be chuffed i reckon!

I'll get some pictures up soon, promise, not much to look at yet, but i have a few plan's up my sleeve  :evil:


Cheers, Sam
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: AlanD on 22 June 2009, 23:10
Sam,

Congrats on getting the MK5 ! There will be hell in the MK4 section when you change your sig :D

Sorry to hear about the defects you found, however at least they are only cosmetic matter which can be sorted and should cost you too much.

Once you get some mods going on it and make it feel more like yours you will REALLY love it :)

/looks forward to pics
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: smartypants on 23 June 2009, 10:31
Well done mate - pleased for ya!


Pics!!!
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: sambo on 23 June 2009, 22:45
Took it my mate who works for VW today, got it scanned for faults. Reckon the breather valve? need's changing as the idle is a bit lumpy (£23) and wiped a fault off for the xenon adjustment, will see if it comes back, other than that all is good. Loving the way it drives though!

Mod's started already, couldn't resist  :grin: got some R32 rear lights coming my way and a set of golfgti.co.uk stickers already in!

Will get some pictures up once it's had a wash, haven't had time yet and a bit worried about going near the bubble patch, but a gentle hand wash may be on the cards for tomorrow (maybe)

Also ordered 2 new wing mirror indicator's as 1 doesn't work very and the other is a bit minging but there only £13 each.

Then getting the cambelt and water pump done by my mate (£200 all in  :cool: ) and should leave me just enough to get all the bodywork done!! (hopefully)


Cheers, Sam
Title: Re: Old and fully loaded or new and basic?
Post by: AlanD on 23 June 2009, 22:48
I need to find a mate to do my cambelt an water pump for that price :(

I NEED to get some R32 rears, just so skint at the moment after fixing my little accident and getting that CF front :(

/goes in hunt of winning lottery ticket